Roster Building Thread V (2022-23): Cheese and WINE

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Hot take. If the Rangers lose this series Gallant and Panarin are gone in the offseason.

Hope so. Panarin is addition by subtraction with all his HORRIBLE turnovers.

Gallant is barely a coach. Some of the worst decision making ive seen plus complete pusher of the country club aspect.
 
Hot take. If the Rangers lose this series Gallant and Panarin are gone in the offseason.
if you are moving panarin you will have to be creative with his cap hit and nmc. people thinking nyr would get some sort of significant return are nuts. no one has cap space to begin with and panarin can control the situation. it would be a circus moving him
 
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I said we should shoot Laf to the moon last night, but was angry. If we are giving up on a 1stOA it's the most Rangers thing to do. I'd give him more time, he is not going to get paid much now.
I mean, I wouldn't want to give him away or anything but I would definitely explore the market and see what anyone would be willing to give up for him. Timing is bad because it would basically be selling low. Most likely is he cheaply re-signs.

I do think they look at trading Kakko though which I hope not but I could see it. I flip back and forth but I think I'd keep Kakko over Laf because Kakko at least does somethings well at the NHL level and I could see him being a complimentary top 6 winger on a good team who can also PK - a Nichuskin type guy. Not going to be your star but can be an integral cog. He's shown growth as a player whereas Laferniere basically looks like the same player from his first season and if you ask me what he does well as an NHL player I'd be hard pressed to even come up with anything specific and I've watched every single game of his career.
 
What does Drury do if the Rangers lose in the first or second round?

Brooks said "Panarin is not able to meet the moment".

Maybe the Rangers should pay Panarin under the table during the playoffs so he might give a shit.

 
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I mean, I wouldn't want to give him away or anything but I would definitely explore the market and see what anyone would be willing to give up for him. Timing is bad because it would basically be selling low. Most likely is he cheaply re-signs.

I do think they look at trading Kakko though which I hope not but I could see it. I flip back and forth but I think I'd keep Kakko over Laf because Kakko at least does somethings well at the NHL level and I could see him being a complimentary top 6 winger on a good team who can also PK - a Nichuskin type guy. Not going to be your star but can be an integral cog. He's shown growth as a player whereas Laferniere basically looks like the same player from his first season and if you ask me what he does well as an NHL player I'd be hard pressed to even come up with anything specific and I've watched every single game of his career.
I get being tired of being patient, but you don't trade 21/22 year olds like Laf and Kakko. Unless you want to be Ottowa trading Zib for Brassard... and Zib was like 23. I'm not saying anyone is untouchable, just that you are simply not going to get value for them.
 
What does Drury do if the Rangers lose in the first or second round?

Brooks said "Panarin is not able to meet the moment".

Maybe the Rangers should pay Panarin under the table during the playoffs so he might give a shit.
There's nothing he can do until nmc turn into ntc. All he can do is get Goodrow the f*** off the team and hopefully let Jones or another puck moving defenseman play. Other than that next year is going to be the same core group.
 
Get rid of Panarin. He is the issue. 4 games to get into it already and he is nowhere to be seen. I'd keep literally everyone over Panarin. NMC doesn't mean anything.
 
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There's nothing he can do until nmc turn into ntc. All he can do is get Goodrow the f*** off the team and hopefully let Jones or another puck moving defenseman play. Other than that next year is going to be the same core group.
Good. I want a chance at the same core group being magically better if we have a functioning D corps and being smug about it.
 
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If the team wants to shake it up, the move is to start trading veterans, not the kids. You start building a new identity based on those younger players. So guys like Goodrow, Trouba, Panarin would all be on the table. Kreider and Zibanejad probably stick around but that's not a guarantee.

Lafreniere
Kaako
Chytil
Fox
Shesterkin
Miller
Schneider

There is your next core
 
Colrorado's core couldn't meet the moment until they signed Kadri and he turned into Bobby Clarke for a season.

Making the team more talented is literally always the solution.
 
Lafreniere
Kaako
Chytil
Fox
Shesterkin
Miller
Schneider

There is your next core
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That's a core like my flabby 32-year-old one pack is a core.
 
If the team wants to shake it up, the move is to start trading veterans, not the kids. You start building a new identity based on those younger players. So guys like Goodrow, Trouba, Panarin would all be on the table. Kreider and Zibanejad probably stick around but that's not a guarantee.

Lafreniere
Kaako
Chytil
Fox
Shesterkin
Miller
Schneider

There is your next core
I agree but let's be serious what would be the chances that Panarin and even Trouba are gone? Probably 10 percent and 5 percent respectively. For several reasons. Goodrow should not be a problem.
 
I still think the team needs to look to adding more players who thrive in small ice play rather than the rush. The kid line is the only line who consistently is applying pressure all over the ice and attacking defenders. If you don't attack then you never get into prime scoring areas or cause the other team to make mistakes. It makes their life easy, especially in the playoffs where they just settle in to the middle of the ice and contain to the outside.

What's ironic is Trochek has actually helped in that scenario. He is constantly looking to apply pressure and force the opposing teams players to adjust to him. It's why he was a good signing last off-season. Panarin and Kane aren't doing this. Kreider isn't doing this right now. Zibanejad isn't doing this right now.

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That's a core like my flabby 32-year-old one pack is a core.

I mean a top-5 goalie, a norris winner and the development of a young, 2nd line? Its not like the Rangers wouldn't be able to keep some vets and build around these guys.
 
If the team wants to shake it up, the move is to start trading veterans, not the kids. You start building a new identity based on those younger players. So guys like Goodrow, Trouba, Panarin would all be on the table. Kreider and Zibanejad probably stick around but that's not a guarantee.

Lafreniere
Kaako
Chytil
Fox
Shesterkin
Miller
Schneider

There is your next core
Who's the projected #1 overall pick in 2024?
 
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