Roster Building Thread V (2022-23): Cheese and WINE

[duhmetreE]

Would anyone have interest in Matheson @ 50% next season? If Jones isn't called upon? Seems to fit a lot of our needs

 

[Fitzy]

Would anyone have interest in Matheson @ 50% next season? If Jones isn't called upon? Seems to fit a lot of our needs

I think NYR will go into fall again with Jones/Robertson fighting for that spot with Harpur in camp.

Deadline again if nothing works out.

At a certain point, there's nothing left for Jones to learn in the AHL. He has to be able to learn to play his game at NHL speed or else he'll be making his trade in the SHL or KHL most of his career.

 

[bobbop]

Would anyone have interest in Matheson @ 50% next season? If Jones isn't called upon? Seems to fit a lot of our needs

No. He has three years left on that hideous contract.

 

[bobbop]

The Rangers should just end the charade. Trade Lafreniere, Kakko and Chytil. The Rangers don't value them very much. Trade all three of them. Sign Kane to a three year contract. Sign Toews or Bonino to be the 4th line center. Lafreniere is blocked by Panarin and Kreider. Chytil is stuck behind Mika and Trocheck. Kakko will get never an opportunity in this organization. His agent should ask for a change of scenery. The Rangers went out and acquired two RW's before the deadline. The guy is off the PP. Trade him so they don't destroy the rest of his career. It looked like Kakko would get a run with Mika and Kreider a few months ago. Drury can trade whatever assets he acquires for rentals.

Kane played 22 minutes last night. 20 shifts. Make it the Panarin and Kane show. Sign Anisimov to center them. He is still trying to keep the NHL dream alive. He plays for the Flyers AHL team.

This is really a poor post. Lafreniere is right on the edge of being an impact player. Trading him would be crazy. Chytil is in a slump right now but he’s got 19 goals and is the perfect 3C to go with Mika and Trocheck. Some of us like and want three scoring lines. Kakko could be the candidate to move because his game is somewhat erratic.

 

[Fitzy]

This is really a poor post. Lafreniere is right on the edge of being an impact player. Trading him would be crazy. Chytil is in a slump right now but he’s got 19 goals and is the perfect 3C to go with Mika and Trocheck. Some of us like and want three scoring lines. Kakko could be the candidate to move because his game is somewhat erratic.

I respect RB as a poster but his takes have been getting really bad of late.

"Vancouver is the Naslund-Bertuzzi show. They should just trade the Sedin twins and get it over with"

 

[duhmetreE]

This is really a poor post. Lafreniere is right on the edge of being an impact player. Trading him would be crazy. Chytil is in a slump right now but he’s got 19 goals and is the perfect 3C to go with Mika and Trocheck. Some of us like and want three scoring lines. Kakko could be the candidate to move because his game is somewhat erratic.

I can see them moving Kakko more and more.

For what exactly? That's the question. Possibly another Center and move Chytil to RW? they seem content with leaving him at Center despite all of his weaknesses. A PMD? or futures?

 

[Alluckks]

I'm guessing we start next year with

Panarin Zib Vesey
Kreider Trocheck Kane
Laf Chytil Kakko
Cuylle Brod Vet

Lindgren Fox
Miller Trouba
Robertson Schneider

Then deadline rentals for middle 6 wing, 1 or 2 bottom 6 players, and a vet D as either 7th D or for injury or if Robertson/Schneider has been bad

 

[RangerBoy]

I think the "trade request" speculation on Chytil or Lafreniere is absolute bogus, like it was with Kakko. These guys know their game is growing and they are better off here, on a true Cup contender, than with a rebuilder. Plus actually getting a Cup would make them more money in their career than any other things they do at this stage. I do think it's possible they try to sign Chytil to a 2 year/4m type deal with his inconsistency, history of injury and subpar defensive play. I definitely see them exploring a trade of Kakko for picks in this years dt=raft or a similarly aged player with a more direct skillset. Kakko is developing into Jesper Fast.

I love Lindgren, but the Rangers are preparing for life without him. He's a heart and soul guy and in a vacuum i woudnt dream of trading him, but we cant repeat the sins of the father and sign a potentially injury prone player to a deal we regret when we have 2 promising LDs getting seasoned in Hartford. Plus I'd be interested in what Mikkola wants on a short term deal.

People want to contend for a decade? The move would be to sign Tarasenko and Kane to manageable deals and deal Goodrow, Lindgren & Kakko for high picks or talented ELC players and slot Cuylle/Robertson/Jones/Othmann into their roster spots. People may not like it but This Is The Way

If you represented Lafreniere and/or Chytil, would you be happy with their roles on the team? No way.

Lafreniere is stuck behind Panarin and Kreider. None of them want to play RW. Othmann enters the equation next season. How do the Rangers manage this situation? Your scenario doesn't address the logjam on the left side. Nobody on this board ever answers this situation. The same shit every year. Othmann is a natural LW.

Chytil is two years away from group III. He is not surpassing Zibanejad or Trocheck on the depth chart.

The Rangers don't have a replacement for Lindgren.

The play is trading Lafreniere and Chytil for futures.

 

[RangerBoy]

This is really a poor post. Lafreniere is right on the edge of being an impact player. Trading him would be crazy. Chytil is in a slump right now but he’s got 19 goals and is the perfect 3C to go with Mika and Trocheck. Some of us like and want three scoring lines. Kakko could be the candidate to move because his game is somewhat erratic.

How can Lafreniere become an impact player playing on the 3rd line? Are the Rangers playing Lafreniere over Panarin and Kreider? No. Chytil runs hot and cold. Both of these players are 3rd line players on the Rangers. The Rangers have Zibanejad and Trocheck at center. Drury gave Trocheck seven years last summer. Chytil is 2 years away from group III. Poor post my fat ass.

 

[The Gloaming]

How can Lafreniere become an impact player playing on the 3rd line? Are the Rangers playing Lafreniere over Panarin and Kreider? No. Chytil runs hot and cold. Both of these players are 3rd line players on the Rangers. The Rangers have Zibanejad and Trocheck at center. Drury gave Trocheck seven years last summer. Chytil is 2 years away from group III. Poor post my fat ass.

The penguins should have traded Jordan staal when he was 22. They had Crosby and Malkin ahead of him. He was never going to play over them.

We cry about not having any depth and then the minute we actually have some, some people are ready to blow it up.

This is the deepest the rangers have been at center in decades.

 

[haohmaru]

The penguins should have traded Jordan staal when he was 22. They had Crosby and lacking ahead of him. He was never going to play over them.

We cry about not having any depth and then the minute we actually have some, some people are ready to blow it up.

This is the deepest the rangers have been at center in decades.

Horrific Malkin auto-correct?

 

[The Gloaming]

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Horrific Malkin auto-correct?

Lmao, yeah

 

[Alluckks]

How can Lafreniere become an impact player playing on the 3rd line? Are the Rangers playing Lafreniere over Panarin and Kreider? No. Chytil runs hot and cold. Both of these players are 3rd line players on the Rangers. The Rangers have Zibanejad and Trocheck at center. Drury gave Trocheck seven years last summer. Chytil is 2 years away from group III. Poor post my fat ass.

Congrats on the bodacious rump

 

[Crease]

What’s the rush to trade any kids? Why not start Othmann in the AHL? God forbid the Rangers have three lines that can score. Is everyone going to put up 80 points? No, and that’s fine.

If the kids and their agents are upset, that’s a different story.

 

[Alluckks]

Actually, because Othmann plays with sandpaper, I could see him starting out on the 4th line

Panarin Zibs Vesey
Kreider Trocheck Kane
Laf Chytil Kakko
Cuylle Brod Othmann

 

[kovazub94]

Hes an RFA with arbitration rights not a UFA so the Rangers have some leverage. A deal taking him to 29 will give him a chance to get one more larger contract. Some where around $4MM would be a fair deal for a player like Lindgren.

He elects to take one year through arbitration and what do you do next season when he could get a 7-year deal on the open market?

 

[kovazub94]

If you represented Lafreniere and/or Chytil, would you be happy with their roles on the team? No way.

Lafreniere is stuck behind Panarin and Kreider. None of them want to play RW. Othmann enters the equation next season. How do the Rangers manage this situation? Your scenario doesn't address the logjam on the left side. Nobody on this board ever answers this situation. The same shit every year. Othmann is a natural LW.

Chytil is two years away from group III. He is not surpassing Zibanejad or Trocheck on the depth chart.

The Rangers don't have a replacement for Lindgren.

The play is trading Lafreniere and Chytil for futures.

Reads like you got upset because you wanted to get upset.
Kane and Tarasenko are rentals and won’t be next season so progressing Kakko will again become the Rangers 1RW as Goodrow and Vesey will once again be asked to play the other RWs in top-9.
Panarin and Kreider will be here 3 more years or less, likely less by a year at least so 2 years. During this time he’s still an RFA under team’s control and it’s pretty obvious that the Rangers want Lafreniere here for his whole career, so well beyond.
Trocheck was signed to just enough for him to be slotted as 3C when Chytil overtakes him - the idea would be that combined cap impact from 2/3 C is acceptable, not to mention that if the Rangers somehow become overstocked at C (yeah, right) Trocheck could be moved to a top-6 RW where we have organizational hole.

 

[Fitzy]

Regarding the center logjam, it isn't unimaginable to picture a line next season which features Chris Kreider on the left, Chytil in the middle, and Trocheck on the RW (though taking the draws)

Then you play Laf and Kakko with Mika, and try to find some players that click for Panarin's line.

Also the LW that's going to make the Rangers out of camp next year is almost certainly Cuylle- I think Othmann starts in the AHL.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

He elects to take one year through arbitration and what do you do next season when he could get a 7-year deal on the open market?

Players like Lindgren do not get 7 year deals. Even 5 years is pushing it.

 

[Alluckks]

I like that Laf has been transitioning to the net front presence on the first powerplay that goes out. That could be huge for him. Also opens up for Kreider to eventually shift more towards 3rd line and Laf top 6.

 

[Daves a mess]

Kakko and our 1st? Move Chytil to RW.

Panarin Zibs Tank
Laffy Zegras Chytil
Kreider Trocheck Othmann

Someone plant that seed into Zegras' mind. Demand a trade to New York.

Yesssssssssssssssss

 

[Daves a mess]

Anyway,

Kravstov, 8 games, 0 goals, 1 assist (powerplay)

No way!!! How? Can't be! Impossible!!









Coaches fault!!!!




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We got his proper value at the deadline.

My man Ed died a slow death on that hill

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I can't believe this team passed on Toilvanen(spelling)....shows what our staff knows, we probably wouldn't have needed to trade for Kane with him.

I like that Laf has been transitioning to the net front presence on the first powerplay that goes out. That could be huge for him. Also opens up for Kreider to eventually shift more towards 3rd line and Laf top 6.

Laf is gonna take the top 6 spot next year i can almost guarantee it. The franchise needs to shift gears.

 

[Kocur Dill]

Regarding the center logjam, it isn't unimaginable to picture a line next season which features Chris Kreider on the left, Chytil in the middle, and Trocheck on the RW (though taking the draws)

Then you play Laf and Kakko with Mika, and try to find some players that click for Panarin's line.

Also the LW that's going to make the Rangers out of camp next year is almost certainly Cuylle- I think Othmann starts in the AHL.

I dont think people understand/remember that Drury was a 4th/3rd liner his first few career seasons, with Colorado and Calgary.

I'm sure he has a very different perspective of player growth than fans on HFB.

 

[Kocur Dill]

If you represented Lafreniere and/or Chytil, would you be happy with their roles on the team? No way.

Lafreniere is stuck behind Panarin and Kreider. None of them want to play RW. Othmann enters the equation next season. How do the Rangers manage this situation? Your scenario doesn't address the logjam on the left side. Nobody on this board ever answers this situation. The same shit every year. Othmann is a natural LW.

Chytil is two years away from group III. He is not surpassing Zibanejad or Trocheck on the depth chart.

The Rangers don't have a replacement for Lindgren.

The play is trading Lafreniere and Chytil for futures.

I think players like Kravtsov, Drouin, Kabanov, Ho Sang are exceptions, not the rule.

Most players understand this is a Union environment and there is a pecking order that has to be earned to be succeeded.

I think fans grossly underestimate the Union aspect of pro-sports. I'm sure it's not that vastly different than other Union based careers. Maybe a few minor freedoms based off merit/immediate stardom, but still vastly traditional and with a pecking order of expectations.