He has a cup. Something AV never gotten or Gallant. They are worse coaches.
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He has a cup. Something AV never gotten or Gallant. They are worse coaches.
No tenacity and all talk is what we get from this softcore emotionless lazy group. I would have dealt Mika and 2 first 1in 23 and 24 for Tkachuk when he was available. That is a player you go after. Some emotion in this group would not hurt. I hate to say this but a Sean Avery type at the deadline would have been a better move. Remember when they first got him and it sparked the team. Some fiery players would help here. Any UFA like that. Ryan Lomberg UFA next summer. He would be good and wears 94 so maybe a Rangers fan growing up haha. But yea a little fire on this team would help with the balance the scoring
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I was fooling around with this on Cap friendly.
Panarin was rumored to be down to Rangers and Florida before signing Rangers. Bobrovsky is there, and yes, they have some Cap Space. Panarin still goes to contender in a choice destination, Rangers rid themselves of his contract and free cap space, and most important, roster flexibilty.
To alleviate some of it, I could easily see Duclair (1 year remaining at $3 million) coming back in the deal. Its an upgrade for Florida, and Rangers get a middle 6 winger.
Rangers retain the $1.6 whatever million to bring his cap hit down to $10M AAV for the next 3 seasons, when him and Bobrovsky can both walk together and potentially actually choose the same destination in their Free Agent Frenzy Part Deux.
With Rangers retaining a little and only taking back $3, they gain $7M in cap space, slot Duclair on 3rd line with Trocheck and Othmann and run with lines like this:
Kreider-Zibanejad-Kakko: was one of best lines in hockey. Give Kakko the extended look.
Lafreniere-Chytil-XXX
Othmann-Trocheck-Duclair: Could easily interchange Chytil and Trocheck on these lines, but I want Chytil to get more ice time.
Cuylle-Goodrow-Vesey: Goodrow could easily be moved as well for even more spce, but no need to with Panarin gone.
Laf at 2x$2M, Miller played himself out of big extension and will probably bridge at 2x$3.5-4M. This leaves ample cap space to sign a 2nd line winger or acquire via trade with the 1st round pick at Draft.
Final deal I could see being something like: Florida acquires Artemi Panarin @ $10Mx3 (NYR retains whatever the # is above $10M). Rangers acquire Anthony Duclair, Grigori Denisenko (RFA).
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Ok. Still not what I was talking about. If you want to have a Torts is better than AV or Gallant conversation, you can start one. I’m not interested in having any of those coaches here, and I’m not wasting any more time ranking three bad coaches against each other.
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Florida doesn’t look like they need Panarin tonight. Best bet on him is the Ducks and that’s only if the feeling is mutual. Drury needs to put some pressure on him
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I think Anaheim is the team for Panarin. Panarin almost signed with Florida and Anaheim is similar in climate and market size, yet he would be a stone’s throw from LA. He can get an oceanfront mansion and one of his old bff’s plays there. Now factor in Anaheim. Let’s say they do get Bedard, there’s all the buzz and excitement surrounding the organization. What better way to help Bedard than to go out and get Panarin? They have I believe 13 million in cap space and need to sign Zegras. Comtois and I believe 1-2 other guys are RFA’s but probably won’t cost much. ShitAndHurt’s contract comes off the books too.
Brutananadilewski
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they literally went to the ECF last year with Gallant
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kinger8998
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If I was a Florida, I'd steer clear. If I was a Florida fan, I'd be scared for it.
They don't need him. We don't. No Playoff contender does. He's not that guy worth that money at that time.
Ducks make sense with Cap and likely not wanting to be so bad again when they could easily land Bedard or will have a top 3 pick at very worst. Zegras, Comtois, Jones, Mactavish, Drysdal. Gibson will want out unless they improve.
But from Panarins end, unless they show that improvement, or unless a coach is hired for the sole purpose of forcing him out via discipline/different style of play, I can't see it ever happened. He's not waiving for a rebuilder
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Anaheim I think is their only hope, and probably only if they win Bedard; but even then I don’t think Panarin screams being a Verbeek type player.
If they are deal with Anaheim, just get Henrique and Silfverberg’s expiring deals and if you can get a decent asset more power to them. If they are moving Panarin it has to be a cap move. There isn’t going to be a hockey trade out there for him. If they move Panarin, it’s going to look like the Thornton to SJ trade, and it’ll be judged on how NYR reloads
Florida might be into it but the longer they advance through the playoffs the less likely. Reinhart salary needs to be in any deal to make it work. You aren’t getting Verhaeghe out of there so I guess you need Bennett or Duclair but again it depends if Florida sees the value in that
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nsvoyageurs
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No thanks on Quenneville (which means the Rangers will hire him). If that's the best option, I'd rather go back into a rebuild, try to move whoever wants to go/willing to waive their NMC.
Drury, apparently, learned nothing from last year's ECF run; trying to build a fantasy league team from 2013. They needed Ryan O'Reilly-types; not Patrick Kane and Vladimir Tarasenko.
So does Panarin bring his dog to the exit interviews? Is that dealbreaker if he understands English or not?
This is how he trains for the playoffs. No wonder why he sucks.
This is how he trains for the playoffs. No wonder why he sucks.
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Florida is an interesting situation where Panarin could be added by them for almost nothing and they already have the style and mentality around him that would have him not be a liability. They would likely be even better and they dont have any significant RFAs to sign.
The package back would likely be Duclair, Smith, 2nd this year and 3rd next year for Panarin. I would make that deal and, honestly, if your Florida, even with his recent playoff performance, that is so little you may do it too.
The package back would likely be Duclair, Smith, 2nd this year and 3rd next year for Panarin. I would make that deal and, honestly, if your Florida, even with his recent playoff performance, that is so little you may do it too.
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Reinhart has to be in the Florida deal for the cap to make sense. Maybe Duclair and another mid tier salary like Bennett but going to be hard to do a deal without Reinhart in. Maybe they rather pay Panarin than give Reinhart a raise, but again, Florida doesn’t really have a need to change things up at the moment
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No. I just looked at it. Florida actually has quite a bit of cap since many of their players are already signed for next year.
On a completely separate note, and just cause I am looking at it again like I did last year, why exactly did Guerin buy out Parise and Suter? Damn that dead space is crazy.
EDIT: Forgot to mention that I was spring-boarding off earlier comments where Panarin comes at 10 million even.
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this is actually from when he was good. He doesn't even do that now. He drinks expensive wine and models
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Still with that term left on the Panarin deal they are going to need to make more room. That deal takes them past anyone else they are moving. Trading Panarin means they can’t resign Reinhart anyway so maybe he is in deal. Panarin for Duclair and change is adding like 7m to Florida books. That’s a lot
I wish they can ship him to any team in Europe and tell him to stay and play there Sweden Germany wherever
I wish Rangers had a few Yanni Gourde types. Pest that can play and has some skill to his nasty style of game.
I like Geekie on the Krakken. Canes lost a solid depth player. Underrated player.
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Since 2015 the Devils have had 6 top 7 draft picks. Including 2 first overalls. They’ve had 3 in the last 3 drafts. You think it’s bad now it’s only gonna get worse. We’re not gonna outskill this team for the next decade. We’re also not built to dominate anyone physically. Than you have teams like Buffalo, Ottawa , Detroit stacked with young thriving talent. I have more faith in the F’n Jets winning a Super Bowl than seeing this pitiful organization even drafting an elite forward.
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