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Speculation: Roster Building Thread V (2021 Offseason) - Hold them horses, only 45 days left until the draft!

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Lundsanity30 said:
Rangers have to decide if Chytil is a 2nd line center to them and then make their decision and live with it. If they think he’s at minimum a 2C then sign him for 5-6 years. If he’s not then maybe he should be traded. I mean what if he’s better on the wing where we are loaded?
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Sometimes this Board is out in left field. They criticize the heck on contracts for guys like CK who yes is older but has proven he can score 30 goals a year and is a team leader. On the other hand now people want to lock up a guy like FC who we don't even know what position he should play and quite honestly has been uneven in performance. I will tell you now the biggest mistake this team can make is going into next season with FC penciled in as the number 2 center. For a team that wants to take the next step you cannot take a leap of faith that huge. I would either keep him as the 3rd center, move him to wing or in the right deal trade him. I do believe this front office views him differently than a lot of posters on this board do and I think its 50/50 he is on the roster come training camp as he could be viewed as a trade chip.
 
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Irishguy42 said:
Eichel/Chytil is much better than Zib/Strome, easily.

Not even a question.
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I'd prefer Eichel/Chytil, but will that even be a possibility? I can't see any way those two are on the same team unless the Rangers can flip Zibanejad to a team like Vegas for Glass and the Rangers can move him instead of Chytil. As an example.
 
DanielBrassard said:
I'd prefer Eichel/Chytil, but will that even be a possibility? I can't see any way those two are on the same team unless the Rangers can flip Zibanejad to a team like Vegas for Glass and the Rangers can move him instead of Chytil. As an example.
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They trade for Eichel, sign Chytil and trade Zibanejad next deadline prob
 
Bruner4329 said:
Sometimes this Board is out in left field. They criticize the heck on contracts for guys like CK who yes is older but has proven he can score 30 goals a year and is a team leader. On the other hand now people want to lock up a guy like FC who we don't even know what position he should play and quite honestly has been uneven in performance. I will tell you now the biggest mistake this team can make is going into next season with FC penciled in as the number 2 center. For a team that wants to take the next step you cannot take a leap of faith that huge. I would either keep him as the 3rd center, move him to wing or in the right deal trade him. I do believe this front office views him differently than a lot of posters on this board do and I think its 50/50 he is on the roster come training camp as he could be viewed as a trade chip.
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I don’t mean right away more so as he continues to grow. That’s why I asked the question about Monahan (2 years left) steps into the 2C role and evaluate all 3 centers over the next year and make your decision then.
 
Also remember, if the Rangers dont think Strome and or Buchnevich are in long term plans, they likely will be traded for more assets/picks/maybe NHL players etc. I feel like I'm going all Kevin Costner draft day lol but seriously who is to say they cant' get assets from Buch/Strome trades to include for Eichel if they really want him?
 
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Lundsanity30 said:
very good contract dont see them giving him up.. I was curious about like a buchnevich for Tuch swap for them (they have more physicality than just him), but I dont think Vegas would do it.
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I agree it's unlikely the Golden Knights give him up without a vast overpay, but he's the type of forward the Rangers need. Hopefully, someone like Cuylle can develop into that type of player.
 
nsvoyageurs said:
I agree it's unlikely the Golden Knights give him up without a vast overpay, but he's the type of forward the Rangers need. Hopefully, someone like Cuylle can develop into that type of player.
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but this is kind of the "hockey trade" I wouldn't mind for Buchnevich if they dont keep him
 
CLW said:
Chychryn's contract looks great though. Keller needs a better coach. He has undoubted talent which should blossom in the right context.
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You made my point. Some of these contracts are good. Others not so good.

Your other dog doesn’t hunt. Keller’s last coach (yeah Rick Tocchet) got his job in large part for his successful tutelage of Phil Kessel.
 
DanielBrassard said:
I'd prefer Eichel/Chytil, but will that even be a possibility? I can't see any way those two are on the same team unless the Rangers can flip Zibanejad to a team like Vegas for Glass and the Rangers can move him instead of Chytil. As an example.
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Ziba can be flipped to a team like Colorado/Calgary/Winnipeg/Florida; a team that is in contention and needs more offense plus has NHL ready prospects.

Would Colo center a trade around Newhook? I'm all in if Stingy Sakic is up for it.
 
TheBloodyNine said:
“Though it goes without saying, it will be said anyway: If Mark Scheifele somehow becomes available out of Winnipeg, he is the player for whom the Rangers empty the cupboard, and the guy in Buffalo becomes Jack Who?”

Final four playoff teams show NHL’s hard cap is a myth


It’s Larry so this is clearly for discussion purposes only but good lord would I pay through the nose with Scheifle
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The way Scheifele handled the post Jake Evans hit has been a turnoff. He's going down the victimhood train. Absolutely no self awareness and sounds totally tone deaf. He put himself in that situation; he has to own it. He has been unable and/or unwilling to do so.
 
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bobbop said:
You made my point. Some of these contracts are good. Others not so good.

Your other dog doesn’t hunt. Keller’s last coach (yeah Rick Tocchet) got his job in large part for his successful tutelage of Phil Kessel.
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Which was idiotic. Chayka set back that franchise for years with his pursuit of simply making the playoffs at all costs (trading for Kessel, Hall). Tocchet was probably part of that plan with his Kessel-whispering powers.
 
Roo Returns said:
Ziba can be flipped to a team like Colorado/Calgary/Winnipeg/Florida; a team that is in contention and needs more offense plus has NHL ready prospects.

Would Colo center a trade around Newhook? I'm all in if Stingy Sakic is up for it.
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Minnesota might be at the top of the list for a Zibanejad trade if we traded him after getting Eichel hypothetically
 
Lundsanity30 said:
I don’t mean right away more so as he continues to grow. That’s why I asked the question about Monahan (2 years left) steps into the 2C role and evaluate all 3 centers over the next year and make your decision then.
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Monahan missed the end of this season with a hip injury that required surgery. He's supposed to be ready for next year, but I don't think it's worth the risk of messing with a guy coming off a hip injury. Plus, he's terrible defensively and is basically just a goal-scoring version of Strome. It's not really the type of upgrade we need in our lineup going into next season.
 
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I dont mind 2 offensively gifted Top 6 centers if we have 2 defensive minded/checking/etc bottom six centers who are solid in their roles that they can match up defensively. Chytil isn't likely to really be a good defensive 2C either.
 
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NYblades said:
Doesn't Mika have a NMC in his contract though?
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He does so they'd have to convince him to sign an extension to go after him likely, but that might be the case anywhere unless someone just wants to rent him. Minnesota played extremely well with the centers they have at the moment tho, so he would be a BIG upgrade for them (of course this assumes the Rangers have replaced him with a 1C like Eichel/Barkov/Schifele/etc)
 
Lundsanity30 said:
I dont mind 2 offensively gifted Top 6 centers if we have 2 defensive minded/checking/etc bottom six centers who are solid in their roles that they can match up defensively. Chytil isn't likely to really be a good defensive 2C either.
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If you trade a skill center and get a young offensive skill center back, the way to build a team short term is through depth and veterans who can cover and eat minutes.

You get a Newhook or Glass? Have a Bonino type behind him.
 
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