Speculation: Roster Building Thread V (2021 Offseason) - Hold them horses, only 45 days left until the draft!

[Vitto79]

How about a young vet like Lemieux, out of LA? I bet he's a great fighter and would function as deterrent. Anybody know if he can take a draw? Might have some good scoring touch too!

he would look good as an aggressive 4th line LW!

 

[McRanger92]

Retaining salary on a Buchnevich extension and trade. Ideally we can retain only for the first season if that’s allowed.

That said Vegas doesn’t really need more forwards so I think they’d be more interested in Kandre Miller.

The only way way im trading KAM in a deal like that is if they get an LD like Werenski in a separate trade

 

[SRHRangers]

Joking aside, this is probably the correct time to try to pry one of Cody Glass or Peyton Krebs out.

That's one of the few situations where I would be open to dealing Z this offseason.

Especially if Vegas gets bounced in round 2 and go all in.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Retaining salary on a Buchnevich extension and trade. Ideally we can retain only for the first season if that’s allowed.

That said Vegas doesn’t really need more forwards so I think they’d be more interested in Kandre Miller.

I think they could 100% use another high end forward.

Zibanejad would be of great interest to them, but it'd he hard/impossible to move on from him unless we had a replacement.

 

[Boris Zubov]

I think they could 100% use another high end forward.

Zibanejad would be of great interest to them, but it'd he hard/impossible to move on from him unless we had a replacement.

Agreed. Pacioretty is their only consistent finisher.

 

[pld459666]

If he was claimed on waivers, the acquiring team would have been on the hook for his entire contract. That’s not free.

C’mon man!

If you trade for him, even at 50%, you are expending assets AND 2.4 million

 

[Trxjw]

Rangers and Kings have traded with each other twice recently. So I'm sure they've talked about all sorts of things. The teams line up well as partners, even if Kings fans seem to think otherwise for some reason.

That being said, I kind of have a hard time seeing the Rangers giving up Buch in a trade where the player they get back has practically zero track record at the NHL level. Unless considered a top-end prospect.

 

[pld459666]

How much of that "free" contract does the team picking the player up have to pay? All of it. Not free. Picking up certain players is just absolving the team that signed them of their mistake.

Sure, it's "free" in terms of not losing assets, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a great deal.

I think if you can get a 50+ point defender for free, like in Free Agency where all you do is pay salary, thats a GREAT deal.

 

[Hire Sather]

Unless deAngelo fell off a cliff, he was/is worth his contract of 5.5 mill.

Teams decided the side show wasn't worth it.

I continue to hope he never plays in the NHL again.

 

[rangers1314]

Unless deAngelo fell off a cliff, he was/is worth his contract of 5.5 mill.

Teams decided the side show wasn't worth it.

I continue to hope he never plays in the NHL again.

He will. He's going to get one last chance.

And I'm not talking about one of those "major league baseball steve howe" last chances either.

 

[Flan the incredible]

With this logic, are you're arguing for Ovechkin being better than Hull, et al?

Personally I think ovie is a way better goal scorer. Hull never hit 50 goals after the age of 30. Ovie has and is still doing it or pacing for it. When Hull was scoring 50+ so were 10 other guys. Ovie has been the only guy to do it in a year or if he has company its not with a lot of other players. Also the second the goals per game averages dropped in the mid 90s Hull never came close. The goals per game average is far lower now and Ovie still does it. Hull had an amazing 3 or 4 year run but he lacked the longevity and was passed over by other guys shortly after. Hull might have that better season but Ovie did it longer and frankly better.

Oh and Hull also had the benefit of seasons in which he had 2 extra powerplay opportunities per game. Penalties were called way more back then. Could you imagine ovie getting 2 more powerplays per game....

 

[EdJovanovski]

 

[rangers1314]

A loss for NYR scouting dept here. Article says he will say on with NYR until August. Spent the last 3 years scouting WHL.
https://mobile.twitter.com/dub_network/status/1402331853852446722

 

[haohmaru]

I think if you can get a 50+ point defender for free, like in Free Agency where all you do is pay salary, thats a GREAT deal.

There's a whole lot more to that package than the simplicity you illustrate above.

Hell, if it were all lollipops and rainbows like the above I'd venture to say that that 50 point defenseman might have actually played for the RANGERS this year.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

A loss for NYR scouting dept here. Article says he will say on with NYR until August. Spent the last 3 years scouting WHL.

Bummer. I'm sure he was instrumental in us drafting gems like Schneider and Robertson.

 

[Dijock94]

To expand on this, I think you HAVE to rely on the idea that Kakko and Laf at least will take significant strides forward next year and beyond when it comes to building this team for the future and you're tweaking things around the edges after that...if you're not, then the rebuild has failed. Those guys HAVE to be the players we hope they were drafted to be.

I think Chytil and Kravtsov are more in the "maybe" range of things and could be pieces moved for players(s) who bring a more physical game but I don't think the Rangers would give them away for free or anything.
I think Buch is a real good player and has more grit in his game than people give him credit for but he along with Strome could be guys the Rangers are looking to move or in the case of Strome upgrade.

So, while there are core pieces in that top six that aren't going anywhere and we're relying on top picks to get better, I think there's still some wiggle room for the Rangers to tinker with

I disagree with Chytil and Kravstov. They’re both super young and are younger still then all of our forward prospects were before they even came into play for the Fangers for years.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

He will. He's going to get one last chance.

And I'm not talking about one of those "major league baseball steve howe" last chances either.

Howe had about 17 last chances, still gram for gram one of the best relievers in his time

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

There's a whole lot more to that package than the simplicity you illustrate above.

Hell, if it were all lollipops and rainbows like the above I'd venture to say that that 50 point defenseman might have actually played for the RANGERS this year.

I think they have a 50 pt D inbound from Sweden, give him a year to adjust

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I could be wrong but I believe Konowalchuk had transitioned to a pro scout position. Not sure when that happened though

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

It's been reported Byfield is their only untouchable.

Robertson for Kupari is a deal that helps both teams. They're the perfect trade partner for us

 

[ETTER DE]

This is Eichel's destination, though not sure they'd be adding 2 top six guys while taking on 10 mill with most likely a prospect heavy offer on the way.

Also, for a team that has an embarrassment of riches when it comes to forward prospects, I'm having a tough time understanding their need to do this when Byfield will absolutely be a top 6 guy next year and so could others in their farm. But I guess that's what happens when you're players are publicly clamoring to compete ASAP.

Edit: just looked and they actually have a shit ton of space, but still they got a shit ton of impressive forward prospects as well.

Kopitar and Doughty are soon over the hill. They cant wait a couple of years on the prospects.

 

[Leetch3]

Bummer. I'm sure he was instrumental in us drafting gems like Schneider and Robertson.

he was only an amateur scout in 18-19 and then was moved to pro scout

 

[rangers1314]

Rangers monitoring playoff coaches, Gerard Gallant favorite

 

[pld459666]

There's a whole lot more to that package than the simplicity you illustrate above.

Hell, if it were all lollipops and rainbows like the above I'd venture to say that that 50 point defenseman might have actually played for the RANGERS this year.

He should have.

But thats a whole different thread. Lol

 

[17futurecap]

Brooks naming every coach in the NHL in that article.