Speculation: Roster Building Thread V (2019/2020)

[Roo Returns]

Can someone post how much is saved burying Smith in the AHL again? It was only like $500K if I remember correctly?

NHL is such an old boys league despite the emphasis on youth. ADA's character issues are going to follow him around throughout his career. I expect him to have a very similar one to MA Bergeron and play for at least 4-6 organizations.

 

[MyLoveIsBlue]

Seems to me ADA just does not want to play for the Rangers. Might be as simple as he does not like Quinn and vice versa.

 

[Irishguy42]

Can someone post how much is saved burying Smith in the AHL again? It was only like $500K if I remember correctly?

NHL is such an old boys league despite the emphasis on youth. ADA's character issues are going to follow him around throughout his career. I expect him to have a very similar one to MA Bergeron and play for at least 4-6 organizations.

$1.075M in cap is the max that can be buried in the AHL.

So Smith would still count $3.275M towards the cap instead of $4.35M

 

[haohmaru]

Seems to me ADA just does not want to play for the Rangers. Might be as simple as he does not like Quinn and vice versa.

I don't think this is the case at all. It's about the Benjamins.

 

[Ghost of jas]

It should also stand to reason that if Fox looks unprepared for the NHL, ADA has a tremendous bargaining position.

This is a gamble for both sides. But it's a little tiresome to see every move the kid makes put under a microscope and analyzed for how selfish or immature it was. This is an informed decision, made in conjunction with an agent at the minimum.

You have been a balanced poster in this and all issues, so me piggybacking this post isn't an attack. We've seen this exact move made by a who's who of recent Ranger favorites, including Dubinsky, Kreider and Stepan. I'm not going to fault him for a business decision.

No offense taken. While I understand this is a business, I just look at DeAngelo and my thoughts are that, given the way the Rangers have dramatically increased the internal competition, players are going to need to demonstrate to the organization why they are needed going forward. This goes for the majority of these kids. Any time away allows someone else to create a positive impression in his absence.

 

[Rongomania]

Teams gonna be stacked once Tony signs. Bye Smith, don't punch any rookies in the mouth in Hartford plz.

 

[Avery16]

Seems to me ADA just does not want to play for the Rangers. Might be as simple as he does not like Quinn and vice versa.

Maybe he doesn't like his chances in a contract year fighting for minutes with Trouba and Fox

 

[aufheben]

CF has them with 24 active players and Marner unsigned. Add Marner in that's 25. So subtract 2-3 players from the current roster, then when H+D return subtract another 2 players from that roster.

I do wonder if it would have been better to have foregone Pajama Boy and now be sitting with Matthews/Marner/Nylander for the next 8 years. They'd have more room for Barrie, too, and Rielly needs a new deal soon IIRC.

 

[Avery16]

Teams gonna be stacked once Tony signs. Bye Smith, don't punch any rookies in the mouth in Hartford plz.

Or maybe do. His salary could come off on the LTIR, right?

 

[Avery16]

Or maybe do. His salary could come off on the LTIR, right?

Is being out of shape enough for LTIR? Get him back on the wedding circuit

 

[Rongomania]

Is being out of shape enough for LTIR? Get him back on the wedding circuit

Philly needs a baking/drinking partner for Hayes, I'm sure.

 

[Avery16]

Philly needs a baking/drinking partner for Hayes, I'm sure.

Versatility Wedding Productions, Inc.

 

[Rongomania]

Versatility Wedding Productions, Inc.

Immediately thought 'Step Brothers'.

For real though, gotta get Tony signed. Crucial for Foxy to have that cushion.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Sign and trade for ADA would maybe the best option for all involved. 2 years at 2,5 M. Let’s say we deal with Edmonton. For J.P. Plus we would of course add a non roster piece of reasonable proportions. Let him (JP) play a while in Finland to hopefully get some of his Mojo back now, no hurry. Doable and smart IMO. And then sign that big guy McQuaid (if OK after concussion) at around 800K. Nastiness box clicked

I say this with the utmost respect for you but this is one of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard. This is a “why do I support these clowns” type of transaction if Management actually went through with it.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Sign and trade for ADA would maybe the best option for all involved. 2 years at 2,5 M. Let’s say we deal with Edmonton. For J.P. Plus we would of course add a non roster piece of reasonable proportions. Let him (JP) play a while in Finland to hopefully get some of his Mojo back now, no hurry. Doable and smart IMO. And then sign that big guy McQuaid (if OK after concussion) at around 800K. Nastiness box clicked

Yikes. Ya lets just give up on a future top offensive defenseman over a few hundred thousand holdout. There are still a ton of unsigned UFAs, guess everyone should give up on them all and trade them.

 

[Roo Returns]

$1.075M in cap is the max that can be buried in the AHL.

So Smith would still count $3.275M towards the cap instead of $4.35M

This is a pretty simple answer. Smith goes down along with either McKeg or Nieves. That creates money for keeping Kravstov up and signing ADA with enough cap to operate.

If Kravstov needs time in the minors, then both McKeg and Nieves remain up.

If ADA is being a butt head and holding out for like $1.2 per, then sign Morrow to a two way as a third pair/7th, and let ADA sit for a few weeks. Reunenan can play right side, or Smith can eat up third pair minutes for a little bit.

 

[Raspewtin]

TDA for Puljujarvi is just giving away good players for shits and giggles

 

[RGY]

TDA for Puljujarvi is just giving away good players for ****s and giggles

Agreed. This would be inexcusable to do. Wait out ADA. He will come around.

 

[super6646]

Brady Skjei is a goddamn living legend...

I’ll see myself out.

 

[Alluckks]

This ADA stuff on here is so overblown

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

we need to keep TDA. He's young, hes a puck moving RHD, why would you just want to get rid of him. Even if you think Fox is ready right away to play top 4 minutes (he's not) we have NOBODY aside from him and Trouba.

 

[kovazub94]

JD comment reads like there’s a one-year deal there on the table. JG might be trying to workout a two-year deal in meantime. If so it really is all about $$ for that second year. $1.5 AAV for two years could be set up as $0.9 for the first year (on the table already) and $2.1 for the second.

 

[Ola]

It's a little overblown if this were the first instance. But things like this have followed him since Jr's. He's not good enough, yet, to be a headache. And the Chytil stuff is more about on ice things, giving a consistent effort which you'd expect from a 19 year old, not off-ice bull**** from a 23 year old.

But how do you know it’s not ‘just’ an on ice thing with TDA? It did happen during a game. A retaliation slash that went uncalled but that DQ saw? Skating to slowly to the bench for a line change. It’s either that or like a chirp towards a coach, a cellphone not being muted while the coaches talks or whatever. Why is one so much more likely than the other? I don’t know, just asking.

It’s like when Maloney talked about TDA in his podcast. Maloney makes a positive statement and refers to that TDA had issues in the past but that here in NY he was getting sufficient support to fulfill his potential. Then that is re-reported as Maloney confirming that TDA is a cancer off the ice in NY. He said nothing of the kind.

Just saying, just think the current trashing of him is a bit over the top. In all honestly, Gorton should work day and night to try to get TDA a respectable deal. Because the offer on the table right now is just humiliating.

 

[aufheben]

I won’t fault him either, but unless the Rangers make a trade, there’s really nothing they can do to up their offer. It’s a mathematical impossibility. So I’d hesitate to call it an informed decision.

This is what makes me wonder what everyone here is arguing is about lol

 

[RangerBoy]

Those were the stuff of legend!

All of the Italian mob guys in the 1980's & 1990's reported to prison in their tracksuits.