Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXXI

[Oscar Lindberg]

Based on Larry’s Strome article yesterday, the smart play at the deadline is to use lower valued assets (mid round picks, mid level prospects like Robertson) to plug some holes at forward and give it a go with this team.

It seems pretty evident that Drury doesn’t think Strome is the guy long term (thank you lord), so they’re going to look elsewhere this summer and hanging onto those valuable trade chips like the 1st, Lundkvist, Kravstov, Chytil etc will be needed to get that 2C in the summer

Schiefle reminds me of a more expensive Strome so I’ll pass on that. Horvat is a good option altough that next contract could be an issue

 

[bbny]

Based on Larry’s Strome article yesterday, the smart play at the deadline is to use lower valued assets (mid round picks, mid level prospects like Robertson) to plug some holes at forward and give it a go with this team.

It seems pretty evident that Drury doesn’t think Strome is the guy long term (thank you lord), so they’re going to look elsewhere this summer and hanging onto those valuable trade chips like the 1st, Lundkvist, Kravstov, Chytil etc will be needed to get that 2C in the summer

Schiefle reminds me of a more expensive Strome so I’ll pass on that. Horvat is a good option altough that next contract could be an issue

Mark Scheifele, a perennial 30+ goal 80-90 point player, reminds you of a more expensive 18 goal 60 point Strome? Is Connor McDavid a more expensive Mika Zibanejad too?

 

[RangersFan1994]

Based on Larry’s Strome article yesterday, the smart play at the deadline is to use lower valued assets (mid round picks, mid level prospects like Robertson) to plug some holes at forward and give it a go with this team.

It seems pretty evident that Drury doesn’t think Strome is the guy long term (thank you lord), so they’re going to look elsewhere this summer and hanging onto those valuable trade chips like the 1st, Lundkvist, Kravstov, Chytil etc will be needed to get that 2C in the summer

Schiefle reminds me of a more expensive Strome so I’ll pass on that. Horvat is a good option altough that next contract could be an issue

I want Dubois. Younger, bigger, more upside, has a nasty streak in his game. this kind of trade would be when the Rangers traded for Mika

 

[Anthony5967]

Things are awfully quiet. Have to think all the front offices are holding their cards close to their vest before the upcoming weekend. Big week for teams.

 

[Anthony5967]

I want Dubois. Younger, bigger, more upside, has a nasty streak in his game. this kind of trade would be when the Rangers traded for Mika

Not sure why WPG would move him if they consider moving older guys like Schiefele and Wheeler.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Mark Scheifele, a perennial 30+ goal 80-90 point player, reminds you of a more expensive 18 goal 60 point Strome? Is Connor McDavid a more expensive Mika Zibanejad too?

Yeah

Aka a guy who is all offense and is allergic to defense

We have one of those already, if that’s what this team needed they should just save the assets they would trade for Schiefle and keep Strome

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I want Dubois. Younger, bigger, more upside, has a nasty streak in his game. this kind of trade would be when the Rangers traded for Mika

Unless he makes it clear he has no interest in signing there long term, don’t see why they’d move him but yeah he’d be great

 

[RangersFan1994]

 

[QJL]

The opinions here on Scheifele are crazy. He’s having a bad year, but he’s absolutely a player you take a chance on if the price is right. He’s 28 coming off 5 consecutive point per game seasons. He’s a low end first line center and big upgrade on Strome at nearly the same price.

 

[duhmetreE]

How much potential does Domi have left?

Is he an Avery type minus the circus?

 

[NYR Viper]

This.

Watch for a 1-1 trade with Montreal. Send back a contract.

This would make a ton of sense and has the possibility of paying dividends if he can regain some form to be a 12/13 forward next year

 

[NYR Viper]

How much potential does Domi have left?

Is he an Avery type minus the circus?

I think if he’s in the right spot, he can be a 40-45 point player. He can play wing or center but has recently played mainly wing. When he’s engaged, he’s a bit of a PIA, not Avery, but maybe a Goodrow or Hunt level.

If a team can get him to engage regularly he could be a real nice piece. The question will be what is the cost to acquire him and what does his next contract look like

 

[TheDirtyH]

Domi would be a great add imo, especially if he comes cheaply just given his reputation around the league.

Coming to a big market in a playoff position could bring out the best in him, and he's been very productive in very limited minutes this year anyway. He's a fast skater, can play wing or center, plays with an edge--all things we need right now.

Scheifle would be such a disappointing add. I don't hate the player, but for the cost it would take to acquire him, he would absolutely not be worth it. He gets a ton of production from the PP and his game has cratered basically right in sync with Blake Wheeler aging out of elite status. Not saying he's a complete product of Wheeler, but personally see a lot of Monahan-Gaudreau in Scheifle-Wheeler, and it's bad business to pay premium for players who don't bring elite play to the table without elite support (re: Strome, Ryan).

 

[RangersFan1994]

How much potential does Domi have left?

Is he an Avery type minus the circus?

He is only 27 years old. 29 points 9 goals 49 games 35 PIM. Worth a risk. He has family ties here with his dad being a fan favorite. Drury would and should risk this type of move. Can play al 3 forward positions and is a better center in my opinion.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Domi would be a great add imo, especially if he comes cheaply just given his reputation around the league.

Coming to a big market in a playoff position could bring out the best in him, and he's been very productive in very limited minutes this year anyway. He's a fast skater, can play wing or center, plays with an edge--all things we need right now.

Scheifle would be such a disappointing add. I don't hate the player, but for the cost it would take to acquire him, he would absolutely not be worth it. He gets a ton of production from the PP and his game has cratered basically right in sync with Blake Wheeler aging out of elite status. Not saying he's a complete product of Wheeler, but personally see a lot of Monahan-Gaudreau in Scheifle-Wheeler, and it's bad business to pay premium for players who don't bring elite play to the table without elite support (re: Strome, Ryan).

His dad was a fan favorite here, would not hurt to have his son here helping this team in the playoffs.

 

[duhmetreE]

Domi would be a great add imo, especially if he comes cheaply just given his reputation around the league.

Coming to a big market in a playoff position could bring out the best in him, and he's been very productive in very limited minutes this year anyway. He's a fast skater, can play wing or center, plays with an edge--all things we need right now.

Scheifle would be such a disappointing add. I don't hate the player, but for the cost it would take to acquire him, he would absolutely not be worth it. He gets a ton of production from the PP and his game has cratered basically right in sync with Blake Wheeler aging out of elite status. Not saying he's a complete product of Wheeler, but personally see a lot of Monahan-Gaudreau in Scheifle-Wheeler, and it's bad business to pay premium for players who don't bring elite play to the table without elite support (re: Strome, Ryan).

He's a defensively worse Zibanejad. He's not the player we need. If by some miracle he became a 2way workhorse, it'd be a consideration but he is literally the worst defensive forward in the league over the past 3 years.

He does not shore up any weakness on this team. He's just more of the same

 

[duhmetreE]

Domi has Sather written all over it as well. I'm sure he's in Chris' ear

Former 1st round offensive talent. Unrealized potential. Dad connections part of the 'club'

 

[NYR Viper]

He's a defensively worse Zibanejad. He's not the player we need. If by some miracle he became a 2way workhorse, it'd be a consideration but he is literally the worst defensive forward in the league over the past 3 years.

He does not shore up any weakness on this team. He's just more of the same

I agree. He’s of a similar vein as a guy like Monahan to me when he was being discussed. It’s not that he’s a bad player, it’s that he’s a bad fit for what the team needs.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

I fully expect Domi to happen if they can get him for a 3rd or so.

He’s pretty similar to Strome in many ways. He could be a stop gap with some upside relative to acquisition cost if they can’t find a better 2C to replace Strome in the summer.

 

[GAGLine]

The opinions here on Scheifele are crazy. He’s having a bad year, but he’s absolutely a player you take a chance on if the price is right. He’s 28 coming off 5 consecutive point per game seasons. He’s a low end first line center and big upgrade on Strome at nearly the same price.

Given the assets and cap space needed to acquire him, it's not a gamble we can afford to make. Would he score more than Strome playing with Panarin? More than likely. Would he improve our team in any other way? Probably not. We need a 2-way center, not a high scoring center who sucks defensively.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Schiefle is going to cost Schneider+, then you have to pay him soon after

No idea why anyone would want him. He’s a better offensively Strome who will cost a boat load to acquire

 

[TheDirtyH]

I agree. He’s of a similar vein as a guy like Monahan to me when he was being discussed. It’s not that he’s a bad player, it’s that he’s a bad fit for what the team needs.

Agreed, though Monahan has proven a lot of skeptics more right than wrong this season. Gaudreau has flourished away from him and his role has been diminished under Sutter.

I think this team has to take that 'find the next Coleman' idea and apply it to center ice. In general this team does more to isolate players to their positions than any team I watch, and I think that's largely the nebulous 'systemic' issues that people point to.

find the 'right' players--both by cost and style-- and plug them into the 'right' situations. That's actually how the game works. Calgary has been a team that I think every team should be looking at closely this year. They got criticized for making almost no moves this summer. They reorganized their roster, changed where and how the pieces fit together and they're having incredible success for having done so.

 

[TheDirtyH]

Another quick note on Calgary. Their third pair is currently Gudbranson and Zadorov--a pair that most people, analytically bent or otherwise, wouldve mocked endlessly. And they're having a ton of success as a pair.

I don't think Calgary's gotten enough attention this year for what they've managed to do. They have maybe the best line in hockey (and all three players have been on the team for years at this point), they have what many would call weak depth at center (which they've turned into a major strength), they have no number 1 defenseman by any traditional assessment (and by committee they defend extremely well)...

I wish this team would look at them and try to follow suit

 

[JMan74]

Trade deadline March 21. Looking more and more like a sellers market bigtime. Quite a few motivated buyers with few motivated sellers. JT Miller likely not traded, Pavelski signed an extension and wants to remain in Dallas, Hertl may also be kept by Sharks, Giroux likely to be traded but don't know if Philly want to trade him to a division rival and Colorado seems to be top destination for moment.

We may need to pivot to instead of one but 2 lesser moves. Two names Im seeing most is Max Domi and Rickard Rackell.

Domi isnt an elite goalscorer by any means but had one year of 28 goals and plays with an edge and is a pretty well rounded player.

Rackel is more a goal scorer posting 2 years of 30+ goals.

Our team is extremely top heavy , some studs at top but not enough solid guys in the third and 4th lines. The drop between the top players and the rest of the team is steep. These would be two bonafide solid guys to add to the mix and since the price of each would be a bit less you can probably get both with all the trade chips we have and not mortgage too too much of the future either.

NHL Trade Bait Tracker lists top 35 targets as Deadline approaches - The Daily Goal Horn

 

[duhmetreE]

Another quick note on Calgary. Their third pair is currently Gudbranson and Zadorov--a pair that most people, analytically bent or otherwise, wouldve mocked endlessly. And they're having a ton of success as a pair.

I don't think Calgary's gotten enough attention this year for what they've managed to do. They have maybe the best line in hockey (and all three players have been on the team for years at this point), they have what many would call weak depth at center (which they've turned into a major strength), they have no number 1 defenseman by any traditional assessment (and by committee they defend extremely well)...

I wish this team would look at them and try to follow suit

They bought in and are playing great team hockey. It's what I expected our team to look like. Relentless and in your face.. Everyone is attacking