Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXVII

[MrAlmost]

Well they can fit 1 guy at like 5 million and I’d bring Copp back

After that they have to resign Laf and Miller so someone’s gonna get moved with cap hell

I like Copp a lot, but unless he is willing to come in at sub 5 mil we likely can't sign him. Dvorak could likely be had for a reasonable package (Lundqvist, Goat, 23 2nd) that gets you slight retention bringing his number sub 4 mil. That would do wonders for our roster and our cap situation.

 

[huerter]

@Ratelleitlikeitis Why? The lines are named after the mount rushmore of forwards in our history.

Why wouldn't he play PP1? If he's here, Strome is gone.

PLD can play the bumper or stand in front of the net.

Need it to be a RH shot for the geometry to work.

 

[McRanger92]

I thought Goodrow was the shutdown center we were looking for.



No.

Dach is an ok player to take a chance on but not for Kakko.

Clearly they like Goodrow more in the wing. He’s more of a Fast replacement based on how he was used this year

 

[Boris Zubov]

@Ratelleitlikeitis Why? The lines are named after the mount rushmore of forwards in our history.


Need it to be a RH shot for the geometry to work.

The options would be Laf, Chytil, Kakko, or PLD.

 

[huerter]

The options would be Laf, Chytil, Kakko, or PLD.

Tyler Johnson.

 

[bleedblue94]

alright, let's table the kakko dach thing.

would dach be a target if we could get it done with nils and something else? the something else would have to be a decent add, but would dach be a player this team would like to add?

 

[Boris Zubov]

Tyler Johnson.

Bruh....join the rest of us back here in reality. It's not happening.

 

[Fitzy]

I completely reject the notion that Strome's PP bumper spot needs to be a RHS to work.

Utterly and completely.

It's the least important position on that power play, and all having Lafreniere (Who should be the one there, and if he isn't I'm gonna bitch slap Gallant) as a left handed shot only changes which side of the ice inlet passes are more conducive to a clean shot, and which are better served for a deflection.

Fox, Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider were what made our PP great. That clip of Kreider saying a "Norris winner, hart candidate, 40 goal scorer...... and Ryan Strome" is accurate.

I liked some of what Strome did for us here but that spot should go to Laf.

 

[huerter]

Bruh....join the rest of us back here in reality. It's not happening.

How do you know? Chicago has no reason to keep him. In fact, they are gonna retain half. And then we are gonna pair him with bread. The royal road is gonna need to be repaved every intermission. Embrace the royal road revolution. And we are gonna put him in the bumper spot. So much knee down.

 

[huerter]

I completely reject the notion that Strome's PP bumper spot needs to be a RHS to work.

Utterly and completely.

It's the least important position on that power play, and all having Lafreniere (Who should be the one there, and if he isn't I'm gonna bitch slap Gallant) as a left handed shot only changes which side of the ice inlet passes are more conducive to a clean shot, and which are better served for a deflection.

Fox, Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider were what made our PP great. That clip of Kreider saying a "Norris winner, hart candidate, 40 goal scorer...... and Ryan Strome" is accurate.

I liked some of what Strome did for us here but that spot should go to Laf.

So instead of ripping one t's you want Zib holding onto pucks and finding non-Kreider seams? That's a show.

 

[McRanger92]

I don’t mind the Dvorak idea if the Canadiens would retain some. Rep of being good defensively, can win faceoffs, still young and under contract. Get Gorton on the horn

 

[Fitzy]

So instead of ripping one t's you want Zib holding onto pucks and finding non-Kreider seams? That's a show.

I'm not sure I fully understand the question here huert

 

[Ola]

I completely reject the notion that Strome's PP bumper spot needs to be a RHS to work.

Utterly and completely.

It's the least important position on that power play, and all having Lafreniere (Who should be the one there, and if he isn't I'm gonna bitch slap Gallant) as a left handed shot only changes which side of the ice inlet passes are more conducive to a clean shot, and which are better served for a deflection.

Fox, Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider were what made our PP great. That clip of Kreider saying a "Norris winner, hart candidate, 40 goal scorer...... and Ryan Strome" is accurate.

I liked some of what Strome did for us here but that spot should go to Laf.

Yeah, and I mean, we changed the PP already quite significantly during the year, right? Ziba didn't start on the left and Panarin on the right IIRC. Panarin was on the left and Ziba high in the middle and Strome was on the left.

Kakko or Laf can easily adjust to Strome's latest role, the first is harder (i.e. the one Panarin play now).

 

[Ola]

I'm not sure I fully understand the question here huert

He means that if Strome is moved, we have to move Ziba from the left side to fill Strome's role and we then have nobody that can fill Ziba's role.

I am having a little hard time following if @huerter is sarcastic about Strome and/or Tyler Johnson or neither?

 

[NickyFotiu]

With so many forwards including young forwards in the pipeline it may be a mistake to keep Strome, Copp, Valtrano or Motte. I'd consider finding a real first line player or second line center than resigning those 4. May need to pay up but 1 larger contract instead of 4 contracts is fine plus then younger guys have spots.

 

[DialUp]

Who and how many players are we looking to replace? I think it's a group that includes some but not all of:
Strome
Vatrano
Rooney
Potentially Copp

No matter what, find guys that know how to clear the zone. Then get them. Also, if those guys are good at cutting to the middle and SHOOTING the puck, then REALLY get them. Then we win the cup with our foundation.

 

[huerter]

I'm not sure I fully understand the question here huert

Zib is lethal with the one timer and his second option is to hit Kreiders stick. Now you want a LH shot in the middle and that position will be utilized by playing pitch and catch with Zib. So you are repurposing what Zib does extremely extremely well. For no other reason then you want to force Laf or some other player onto the first PP so he can pad his stats, so you can brag to your buddies that we have a stud in the making.

Just go get Tyler Johnson.

He means that if Strome is moved, we have to move Ziba from the left side to fill Strome's role and we then have nobody that can fill Ziba's role.

I am having a little hard time following if @huerter is sarcastic about Strome and/or Tyler Johnson or neither?

I'm not moving Zib.

 

[Ola]

My big hope is that Drury -- takes the right approach without shortcuts -- this summer.

Just take a step back, we have a team flooded with high paid players that either have NMCs or are untouchable (Fox and Shesty), the cap is remaining flat for 2-3 more years, zero money is coming off the books, a bunch of kids can request huge raises.

It is not only that we can't afford them, we need many more cheaper options producing well over the pay grade. Even if we just keep Strome for 1 year, we have the same issues next season, right?

 

[Fitzy]

Zib is lethal with the one timer and his second option is to hit Kreiders stick. Now you want a LH shot in the middle and that position will be utilized by playing pitch and catch with Zib. So you are repurposing what Zib does extremely extremely well. For no other reason then you want to force Laf or some other player onto the first PP so he can pad his stats, so you can brag to your buddies that we have a stud in the making.

1) The position can be utilized however they see fit.

2) That's a bad faith argument, on top of putting words in my mouth. None of my buddies watch hockey, to be fair.

 

[Off Sides]

Some players can pass on their back hand.

 

[duhmetreE]

When has Strome ever setup Zibs from the bumper?

It's Kreider who can get beside the goal line that can set Laffy up or Mika if he rotates down. The thought is Laffy is a strong finsher. Let him tee-off from the slot

Mika was setup by Fox or Panarin. Nothing changes.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

I'd argue that swapping a LH shot into Strome's spot you have another play to make with working the puck around the horn and trying to find Zibanejad for a one timer.

1. Shoot the one timer
2. Shot-Pass to Kreider in front of the net
3. Fake the one timer and touch pass to Laf in bumper spot for a one timer

Currently that 3rd option isn't there because Strome is a RH shot.

 

[SA16]

I'd argue that swapping a LH shot into Strome's spot you have another play to make with working the puck around the horn and trying to find Zibanejad for a one timer.

1. Shoot the one timer
2. Shot-Pass to Kreider in front of the net
3. Fake the one timer and touch pass to Laf in bumper spot for a one timer

Currently that 3rd option isn't there because Strome is a RH shot.

I'd argue that any option that makes Zibanejad less likely to use his shot from the left side is a bad option. The main purpose of the guy in the slot is just to draw coverage towards him to open up the cross ice the pass. He doesn't need to touch the puck much to do this. He needs to be smart and positionally aware.

 

[I Eat Crow]

Here’s a bit of… creativity. We might have to add a little More here and There. But I like This lineup

I'd drive Nils to the airport for Pinto. For a 2nd round pick in addition I pay the airfare too. And I like Nils.

 

[McRanger92]

Laf K’Andre Chytil Kakko Z. Jones all set to be RFAs next year. All these guys need to have bigger roles next year. Drury would be smart to get a middle 6 C on a short term deal