Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXVII
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Pass. I seriously doubt that he will be a center at the NHL level. He's not even playing center in the Q. On top of that, his discipline issues are a concern, and his offensive production didn't really improve this year. A torn muscle in his hip and a career low shooting percentage of 10.6% probably contributed to that, but he only played 46 games this year and missed all of the playoffs while rehabbing the injury.
With Othmann and Cuylle, we don't need a guy like L'Heureux.
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Trochek is from Pittsburgh. It's perfectly conceivable they take 7/8 of the Malkin money and throw it his way for a six year deal. They get a legit backup. Trade Kappanen in a hockey deal.
It's very enticing for him, very tough competition for the Rangers.
Trade for Nic Roy and sign a bargain bin center on a prove it deal.
Another depth option for the lower six is our good buddy Nick Bonino from San Jose. Him and Leblanc they'd probably love to move to shed cap. Nemeth, a pick, maybe Reaves, and a prospect? Maybe the deal can be extended and the other Kaapo comes back as the Rangers new backup.
Ziba/Roy/Chytil/Bonino with Goodrow as a backup option, and maybe Korzcak if the later adapts during the season. That's not too bad.
It's very enticing for him, very tough competition for the Rangers.
Trade for Nic Roy and sign a bargain bin center on a prove it deal.
Another depth option for the lower six is our good buddy Nick Bonino from San Jose. Him and Leblanc they'd probably love to move to shed cap. Nemeth, a pick, maybe Reaves, and a prospect? Maybe the deal can be extended and the other Kaapo comes back as the Rangers new backup.
Ziba/Roy/Chytil/Bonino with Goodrow as a backup option, and maybe Korzcak if the later adapts during the season. That's not too bad.
If they are willing to move Lundvkvist, it had better be part of the trade for C who is ready to contribute. Someone like PLD, Larkin, Horvat. Secondly, Drury should get rid of the one of bad contracts before bringing in new high priced player. So he can resign those RFAs.
nsvoyageurs
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How about no?
Has been suspended for many on ice incidents; you can't depend on him. Plus, just coming back from a major hip injury.
My last proposals haven't received that much love so I thought I check with you guys beforehand on this suggestion. Would this post sit well?
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Breaking down the NY Rangers' salary cap situation heading into the offseason
Analyzing the New York Rangers' financial flexibility as they look to fortify their roster this summer. (Hint: There's not much.)
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Sign it.
Lundkvist for a center or LHD. The Rangers don't need wingers. Panarin is signed for 4 more seasons. Kreider is signed for 5 more seasons but his NMC expires in 2 years and most of the money will paid off after the the 4th year. The Rangers have Lafreniere, Kakko and Kravtsov. Assuming Kravtsov isn't traded which isn't happening. He would have been traded by now if some team made a good offer. Nothing is changing now. Kravtsov's waiver exemption is over. He will be on the team. The Rangers have Othmann waiting in the wings.
The Rangers don't need another RHD. Trouba will be here for another two seasons. At least two seasons. Fox. Schneider.
LHD. Can the Rangers trade for a young LHD who can compete for a spot on the Rangers this season or play in the AHL this season? Lindgren is signed for two seasons. He has one more season after this contract before group III. The Rangers don't have anyone to replace Lindgren. The Rangers have a bigger cap crunch in 2023. If the Rangers wanted to clear money in the summer of 2023 by trading Lindgren, they will need someone to take those minutes.
The Rangers could have traded Lundkvist to Montreal for Lehkonen at the trade deadline but they couldn't afford Lehkonen's next contract. Lehkonen is getting $4M in his next contract. He has been very good for Colorado in the playoffs. Vegas traded Brannstrom to Ottawa for Stone and they signed Stone to an extension.
The Rangers could have traded Lundkivist for a high end rental/expiring contract but they couldn't afford to keep that player.
Drury can't trade Lundkvist for an expensive player because the Rangers don't have the space for the player. The cap will be flat for 22-23 and 23-24. Maybe it goes up starting in 24-25.
As an example. The Rangers could afford JT Miller this season but they can't afford another $8.5M-$9M contract on their books. Miller will get at least 6-7 years at $8.5M-$9M in the summer of 2023.
Drury is in a tough spot. It's not his fault.
The Rangers don't need another RHD. Trouba will be here for another two seasons. At least two seasons. Fox. Schneider.
LHD. Can the Rangers trade for a young LHD who can compete for a spot on the Rangers this season or play in the AHL this season? Lindgren is signed for two seasons. He has one more season after this contract before group III. The Rangers don't have anyone to replace Lindgren. The Rangers have a bigger cap crunch in 2023. If the Rangers wanted to clear money in the summer of 2023 by trading Lindgren, they will need someone to take those minutes.
The Rangers could have traded Lundkvist to Montreal for Lehkonen at the trade deadline but they couldn't afford Lehkonen's next contract. Lehkonen is getting $4M in his next contract. He has been very good for Colorado in the playoffs. Vegas traded Brannstrom to Ottawa for Stone and they signed Stone to an extension.
The Rangers could have traded Lundkivist for a high end rental/expiring contract but they couldn't afford to keep that player.
Drury can't trade Lundkvist for an expensive player because the Rangers don't have the space for the player. The cap will be flat for 22-23 and 23-24. Maybe it goes up starting in 24-25.
As an example. The Rangers could afford JT Miller this season but they can't afford another $8.5M-$9M contract on their books. Miller will get at least 6-7 years at $8.5M-$9M in the summer of 2023.
Drury is in a tough spot. It's not his fault.
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Lays
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Difference is Key improved in his sophomore season. Kids a future top pair defenseman fresh off a great season. Why bring him down
Also, Skjei has turned into a very good player. His offense came back and he hits more
Fitzy
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If we are discussing Skjei's NYR legacy, I think it's relatively balanced. Sure, he didn't progress as expected, but he was pretty much a net neutral on that contract we gave him. I think of him as pretty much a decent #3 or great #4.
Trading him was a fair deal for both parties.
The debate could be whether, had we not traded for Trouba and kept Skjei instead, how our defense would look. But we didn't know at that point just how good Fox was going to be and Trouba was dealt for with an eye towards giving us a true #1 all situations RD.
Trading him was a fair deal for both parties.
The debate could be whether, had we not traded for Trouba and kept Skjei instead, how our defense would look. But we didn't know at that point just how good Fox was going to be and Trouba was dealt for with an eye towards giving us a true #1 all situations RD.
Savant
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I take Trouba over Skjei 11 times out of 10. Even with contracts considered. Trouba is good. Skjei is not good.
McRanger92
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Its time for the Rangers to use their resources to acquire a center. There are no centers worth mentioning in the organization beyond Mika Chytil & Goodrow.
As far as the young players go, Miller, Lafreniere & Chytil (based on his position and strong play in the postseason) are clearly the priority to keep long term. Kakko/Kravtsov/Othmann/Cuylle/Berard. 3 of them will take up the vacant top 9 wing spots. Kakko is the most expensive and has been a disappointment. Even if they choose to sign Copp/Trocheck type player, Kakko will most likely be a casualty this summer or next, barring an unexpected offensive breakout. I am sure this is tough to swallow for some but the writing is on the wall.
The team needs to position itself to win a Cup in the next 3 years with Igor on a sweetheart deal. They need a 2C. Copp/Trocheck/JT Miller/PLD/Stastny are all good options and there's more than one way to skin a cat in this league. The youth will absolutely get their opportunities at expanded roles, but they flat out dont have enough room for all of them.
McRanger92
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Why are we trading for another team's developing young player, who is a better W than C, when we already have plenty of our own? If were trading prospects it should be for a center we know is good
Savant
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They can’t.
Carolina only trading Necas for an upgrade. Also Necas VERY unproven at center at NHL level. Canes did not play him at center for any extended period if at all. Necas very bad fit for Rangers too. There’s no end product at all. Just zone entries and then nothing. Carolina kept waiting for him to take another step and it just didn’t happen.
LA isn’t doing this either. LA has enough of an ELC glut. If they are trading their centers, they are going to be cashing it in on an established NHL player. They have no reason to do prospect for prospect.
Anthony5967
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People will rip him too for Buchnevich. What did you want the guy to do? Gorton and Davidson signed off on three massive deals for Kreider, Trouba, Panarin. They had to lock up a 1C and a 1D. He traded a solid offensive wing for a Cup winning, 25 year old winger with more upside than he’s shown in St. Louis that plays the game a way you need to come playoffs. It’s a shame he was hurt. However, he will still get torched. You can’t just trade him for another star or high potential player you will need to re-sign down the line. Fans don’t get it. Sure, could he have asked for a first? Sure, but does that help them now over the roster player? The Blues had a great season.
Who are you trading Lundkvist for that we can afford for more than one season? It has to be a draft pick or ‘another team’s developing young player’. Or do you play Lundkvist on his off side, further diminishing his already low trade value?
There were better returns out there. Plus, that Goodrow contract didn’t write itself.
I don,t know if Necas is a capable center..that will be up to Drury..but I like the idea of a young C versus Trocheck, Strome etc...If the timing works I would do the trade before free agency as a hedge with Copp.
Oscar Lindberg
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The young forwards already here can’t get minutes and people want to trade for Necas 
Mac n Gs
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I think some of you are underrating Necas a bit, but as much as I want him, I don't see a deal working out simply for cap reasons. He wants a good pay bump, and we can't afford it. I think he can easily be shifted to C since that fares better for his skating, but he does need some work developing his two-way game. It'd be a risk, but it could also pay off similarly to the Mika deal.
Ultimately, like someone mentioned earlier, I think he'll be moved for a larger piece to help push CAR over the edge next season
Ultimately, like someone mentioned earlier, I think he'll be moved for a larger piece to help push CAR over the edge next season
No you’re right. Let’s let Lundkvist wither on the vine in Hartford. We can chalk it up to an embarrassment of riches and absolve ourselves of any responsibility to develop future team depth.The young forwards already here can’t get minutes and people want to trade for Necas
rangers1314
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I think if that were in the cards and the NYR were interested, it would have happened by now.
Kupari? @Edge (RIP) said that LA offered him in a Buch deal. NYR preferred Blais. Not a huge vote of confidence.
Turcotte? I think he's started to play Wing in the AHL now. Also, he played with Miller at Wisconsin. NYR would know him pretty well. Maybe they don't think he is a C at the NHL level.
