Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXVII

[BobMarleyNYR]

Brooks suggesting Trocheck as an alternative at 2C. I like the player a lot and could see it working out well with him and Panarin, but I don't see how the contract he gets will be much different than Copp/Strome. Plus he is older than both. If he wants to play with Gallant again on a shorter term deal, sign me up. Otherwise, id look elsewhere.

Been a fan since his draft year.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Passing thru to see what Rangers may be up too and saw this

Deal 3.
Patrik Nemeth and a 3rd for Tyler Johnson @50%

Doesn't make sense for Hawks to do this

Johnson at 50% retained would have 2.5M cap hit which is exact same as Nemeth so in essence Hawks would trade Johnson for a cap dump of equal cost all for a 3rd

Also, the Hawks don't have a glut of young forwards waiting to play in NHL that would make moving Johnson a need right now, but we already have logjam of LD trying to crack NHL spots so bringing in Nemeth would just block them

And Hawks have nearly $19M in open cap room this year with projection of 50M+ cap room next offseason so they can weaponize and maximize cap space if they desire including retaining on trades such as Debrincat/Kane/etc so utilizing a retaining spot on this deal + eating 2.5M in dead cap for next 2 years on Johnson just to add Nemeth all makes no real sense

 

[McRanger92]

Been a fan since his draft year.

Speed, PK, can put up points, plays with an edge, familiar with Gallant, taking a good player from a division rival. All things the rangers could use, but with everything in life it comes down to the contract.

 

[bbny]

Passing thru to see what Rangers may be up too and saw this



Doesn't make sense for Hawks to do this

Johnson at 50% retained would have 2.5M cap hit which is exact same as Nemeth so in essence Hawks would trade Johnson for a cap dump of equal cost all for a 3rd

Also, the Hawks don't have a glut of young forwards waiting to play in NHL that would make moving Johnson a need right now, but we already have logjam of LD trying to crack NHL spots so bringing in Nemeth would just block them

And Hawks have nearly $19M in open cap room this year with projection of 50M+ cap room next offseason so they can weaponize and maximize cap space if they desire including retaining on trades such as Debrincat/Kane/etc so utilizing a retaining spot on this deal + eating 2.5M in dead cap for next 2 years on Johnson just to add Nemeth all makes no real sense

Fine. Nemeth and a 3rd for Kane at half. Now you save more cap instead of paying that bum the full 10!

 

[HANK30]

Did anyone see this? Perry puts his full body weight on an Avs' player's ankle when getting up from a fight...between him and The Spitter, Steven Stamkos, the Lightning have a lot of real classy guys

Sorry wrong thread…

 

[huerter]

Passing thru to see what Rangers may be up too and saw this



Doesn't make sense for Hawks to do this

Johnson at 50% retained would have 2.5M cap hit which is exact same as Nemeth so in essence Hawks would trade Johnson for a cap dump of equal cost all for a 3rd

Also, the Hawks don't have a glut of young forwards waiting to play in NHL that would make moving Johnson a need right now, but we already have logjam of LD trying to crack NHL spots so bringing in Nemeth would just block them

And Hawks have nearly $19M in open cap room this year with projection of 50M+ cap room next offseason so they can weaponize and maximize cap space if they desire including retaining on trades such as Debrincat/Kane/etc so utilizing a retaining spot on this deal + eating 2.5M in dead cap for next 2 years on Johnson just to add Nemeth all makes no real sense

Thanks for the feedback. There are gonna be other elements to the trade. Georgiev will be in it. We can't predict exactly how it will look, but it's happening.

 

[broadwayblue]

Thanks for the feedback. There are gonna be other elements to the trade. Georgiev will be in it. We can't predict exactly how it will look, but it's happening.

It's happening?

 

[Raspewtin]

And they complain about Trouba.lol That is dirty as heck. Great way to break someones ankle. basically putting his entire weight for a good 10 plus seconds on a guy who has no ability to do anything about it.

all i'm gonna say is I wish Lafreniere nailed Hedman in the dome harder, and I wish Palat stood up straight when Trouba lined him up.

this league and players don't give an absolute f*** about safety so why should we lol

 

[Good Intentions]

Every single trade proposal here suggests pawning off Nils. Simply absurd. He was “can’t miss” and “safe floor” months ago. He’s not available.

 

[Thirty One]

Every single trade proposal here suggests pawning off Nils. Simply absurd. He was “can’t miss” and “safe floor” months ago. He’s not available.

 

[AKA Chief]

This Ranger team will make it's moves at the next deadline, when we can add value and pay a small percentage of salary.

I believe we will sign a 2C probably Trocheck for around $5M. Bridge deal for KK and then fill in the lineup with min wage guys.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Every single trade proposal here suggests pawning off Nils. Simply absurd. He was “can’t miss” and “safe floor” months ago. He’s not available.

Not for everyone.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Brooks suggesting Trocheck as an alternative at 2C. I like the player a lot and could see it working out well with him and Panarin, but I don't see how the contract he gets will be much different than Copp/Strome. Plus he is older than both. If he wants to play with Gallant again on a shorter term deal, sign me up. Otherwise, id look elsewhere.

He's going to get 5.5-6M from someone on a 5-6 year deal. Don't really see that from us.

Plus I don't like his face.

 

[RangersFan1994]

He's going to get 5.5-6M from someone on a 5-6 year deal. Don't really see that from us.

Plus I don't like his face.

I bet Bruins sign Trocheck, they need depth at center and he would get a lot of ice time on a playoff team depending on the moves they make in the offseason.

 

[pld459666]

Did anyone see this? Perry puts his full body weight on an Avs' player's ankle when getting up from a fight...between him and The Spitter, Steven Stamkos, the Lightning have a lot of real classy guys

What ever it takes to win.

We need that attitude on the Rangers.

Lots of it

 

[AirGut]

Think we'll re-visit a J.T. Miller trade? Prime example of a high caliber player that Drury has been waiting to trade for and I'd rather have Miller than Strome or Copp, especially THIS version of Miller.

Kreider-Zibanejad-Lafreniere
Panarin-Miller-Kakko
Goodrow-Chytil-Blais
Motte-Brodz.-Reaves


I would bank of VAN management overvaluing Kravtsov and wanting to bring him in to join the Podzkolzin/Kuzmenko party. It would especially be worth it to get Podz and Krav back together again as they played really well in that WJC. Most likely we'd have to give up either one of Lundkvist or Schneider as well though.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Think we'll re-visit a J.T. Miller trade? Prime example of a high caliber player that Drury has been waiting to trade for and I'd rather have Miller than Strome or Copp, especially THIS version of Miller.

Kreider-Zibanejad-Lafreniere
Panarin-Miller-Kakko
Goodrow-Chytil-Blais
Motte-Brodz.-Reaves


I would bank of VAN management overvaluing Kravtsov and wanting to bring him in to join the Podzkolzin/Kuzmenko party. It would especially be worth it to get Podz and Krav back together again as they played really well in that WJC. Most likely we'd have to give up either one of Lundkvist or Schneider as well though.

Who are we trading for 1 year of Miller? Because we certainly wont be able to afford him after that. And he is not going to come cheap so start with 2 top young players/prospects.

Hard pass.

 

[AirGut]

Who are we trading for 1 year of Miller? Because we certainly wont be able to afford him after that. And he is not going to come cheap so start with 2 top young players/prospects.

Hard pass.

I'd think Kravtsov and someone like Lundkvist or Schneider end up getting moved with a 1st. Strome and Copp both end up walking and this summer Georgiev and Nemeth most likely get moved as slight cap relief.
It also hinges on Laf/Kakko/Miller taking a respectable bridge deal and Chytil taking a discount on the short term to play for a Cup with us. At that point we can squeeze Miller in if we so choose but we might have a cup by that point, then it really won't matter and Miller can just walk

 

[Taluss]

Think we'll re-visit a J.T. Miller trade? Prime example of a high caliber player that Drury has been waiting to trade for and I'd rather have Miller than Strome or Copp, especially THIS version of Miller.

Kreider-Zibanejad-Lafreniere
Panarin-Miller-Kakko
Goodrow-Chytil-Blais
Motte-Brodz.-Reaves


I would bank of VAN management overvaluing Kravtsov and wanting to bring him in to join the Podzkolzin/Kuzmenko party. It would especially be worth it to get Podz and Krav back together again as they played really well in that WJC. Most likely we'd have to give up either one of Lundkvist or Schneider as well though.

Id be fine giving up Lundkvist + for him.

Id be slightly annoyed we wasted assets on Copp rather than just getting JT back at the TDL though.

Also have to consider resigning him will be hell

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I'd think Kravtsov and someone like Lundkvist or Schneider end up getting moved with a 1st. Strome and Copp both end up walking and this summer Georgiev and Nemeth most likely get moved as slight cap relief.
It also hinges on Laf/Kakko/Miller taking a respectable bridge deal and Chytil taking a discount on the short term to play for a Cup with us. At that point we can squeeze Miller in if we so choose but we might have a cup by that point, then it really won't matter and Miller can just walk

And if we don't win the cup? Which is MUCH MUCH more likely? Then we gave away Lunkdvist, Schneider, and Kravtsov, a huge chunk of our future and now won't be as competitive as we would have been had we kept them all. Not to mention we are back where started again without a 2nd line center.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

NHL Award Show Red Carpet. Starts at the 2:00 minute mark.

 

[Taluss]

And if we don't win the cup? Which is MUCH MUCH more likely? Then we gave away Lunkdvist, Schneider, and Kravtsov, a huge chunk of our future and now won't be as competitive as we would have been had we kept them all. Not to mention we are back where started again without a 2nd line center.

Schneider wasn’t going to be moved for JT at the TDL. I wouldn’t worry about it happening now.

But you make a great point about giving up assets only to probably not win and be back where we started missing a 2c cuz I’d say it’s a long shot to resign JT.

 

[McRanger92]

Think we'll re-visit a J.T. Miller trade? Prime example of a high caliber player that Drury has been waiting to trade for and I'd rather have Miller than Strome or Copp, especially THIS version of Miller.

Kreider-Zibanejad-Lafreniere
Panarin-Miller-Kakko
Goodrow-Chytil-Blais
Motte-Brodz.-Reaves


I would bank of VAN management overvaluing Kravtsov and wanting to bring him in to join the Podzkolzin/Kuzmenko party. It would especially be worth it to get Podz and Krav back together again as they played really well in that WJC. Most likely we'd have to give up either one of Lundkvist or Schneider as well though.

Miller is a great fit for us to go for it this year (we should), but I don’t see the Rangers winning a bidding war for a guy they won’t re-sign

Every single trade proposal here suggests pawning off Nils. Simply absurd. He was “can’t miss” and “safe floor” months ago. He’s not available.

Great prospect and they won’t give him away but it’s naive to think after the past year that nils is anything more than our best trade chip

 

[Sayba]

Should we maybe just use our money to lock up Laf and Miller?

Anyone we bring in is potentially going to cost us the ability to sign our own young talent.

 

[cheech70]

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Martin for Nils and a reasonable add? They like to trade with each other..fills a need for both..why not?

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