Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXVII

[McRanger92]

I doubt the Rangers and Canes will be making trades with each other the next couple years. They look to be the two main contenders in the metro so will be competing every year to make the ECF out of the division. Even if a trade may make sense for both sides you don’t want to potentially help the other side more.

I’d welcome trading with Carolina. They think they are smarter than everyone, but they will make themselves a worse team going into next year

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Would be nice if Othmann becomes our Jarvis or Mercer, i.e., 40 point scorer right out of the gate that just looks like he belongs. Afraid he’s not a good enough skater for that to happen though.

Yeah, that would be a great thing to see. I'm not sure if he's going to be ready but if there's one thing I took away from Othmann in camp last year was that kid is going to work his ass off in every aspect of the game to be the best player he can be. I have a lot of confidence of him being a good NHL player for us because of his attitude and work ethic on top of what is a first round skill set. Kid just seems like he gets it.

 

[UnSandvich]

I hated the Othmann pick, and he's made me look wrong so far, but he also hasn't played in the big leagues yet. His improvements skating-wise will determine whether he's a Top 6er, a Bottom 6er, or he wipes out entirely. Because everything else is there.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

He isn’t AHL eligible and just tore up the OHL. Is there much else to prove there? Maybe 60 goals this season? I can see Rangers carrying him for a month and seeing if he can cut it with the boys.

Can he play in Switzerland next year?

 

[RangersFan1994]

How about trying to snag Tage Thompson out of Buffalo?

would Kakko and Lundkvist for Thompson and Cozens be enough?

 

[egelband]

I like Key a lot based off what I’ve seen and the progress he’s shown, but a bunch of the same things were said about Brady Skjei after his first year. Size, good speed, offensive prowess (Skjei had a 40 pt rookie season), could carry the puck pretty well and even take the puck end to end for offense. He flat-lined/regressed the following year when he was asked to do more on the top pairing (if memory serves me right). The Rangers inexplicably gave him a big deal after that, which was highly risky the second it was signed because they didn’t have a good idea which direction his career was going after that season.

Miller’s positioning improved throughout the year, particularly since January or so, but it is still a bit suspect especially in the DZ. Not unlike Skjei’s issues. There’s still at least some level of doubt in my head about which way Miller will go. Where KAM differentiates from Skjei is he had been asked to do more as the season progressed and seemingly elevated his play, so there’s some good hope this isn’t Brady Skjei part two, but I think we have to pump the brakes a touch…

I’ve had this thought too about Miller-Skjei but I don’t think it really applies to well. Skjei never seemed to learn from his mistakes. And I think Miller seems to be kind of the opposite. But I do get the raw skills comp. I just think the heads are so much different.

 

[wolfgaze]

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His skates are definitely Bauer, but aesthetically they look different than the current version of the Vapor Hyperlites. Perhaps he's wearing an older version and that's why they differ? Having a hard time finding stock photos of his exact skate.

 

[Anthony5967]

Othmann is a blue chip prospect with a wicked release, the smarts, and chops to cut it as a high-end top-6 guy for a while. He also will bulk up and is obsessed with improving his game. Definitely more talented and a better prospect than Dubinsky.

 

[GAGLine]

How about trying to snag Tage Thompson out of Buffalo?

would Kakko and Lundkvist for Thompson and Cozens be enough?

That's an awful deal for Buffalo. I doubt they'd accept Kakko and Lundkvist for Thompson alone.

Thompson and Cozens will be core pieces for them for a long time. As much as I love Kakko, he isn't worth either of those players right now. Buffalo could probably use someone like Lundkvist, but it won't be for Cozens. They have 3 1st round picks, so maybe they trade one of them for Lundkvist if we are looking to get back into the 1st round.

 

[Beer League Sniper]

Can he play in Switzerland next year?

I don't think so. I think he was only able to transfer because of the OHL COVID shutdown. His Swiss citizenship made it a no-brainer for the acquiring team, since they didn't even need to use one of their "import player" slots on him (they can ice 4 imports per game).

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Lundkvist will go to Carolina and become their top pairing RD, no thank you

Trade him anywhere but there

 

[WojtekWolski86]

1. On Yamamoto, sure it’s up for debate. From my POV, he meet some of the criterias and others are unknown.

2. But I don’t agree at all with the rest. This is the NHL, it sounds like you think that a smaller player that is “willing to go to the physical areas, get their hands dirty” is something unique. I think you will have a hard time finding many that don’t meet that criteria and ever made it to the NHL. We must misunderstand each other here, what do you mean?

3. I said that a center isn’t involved in physical battles where he benefits from being big 99% of the time he is on the ice.

You don’t think that is correct? All I can say is open the stop watch function on your smart phone and watch a hockey game. What is the real number? Physically engaged 5% of the time and how many of those 5% do a player really benefit from being stronger/bigger?

4. For Christ sake, look around the league. How can these things even be questioned?

Hockey will never be completely black and white. Theo Fleury was great when size was a requirement, prime Malkin skated well compared to anyone despite being big. But the bigger checking line centers are almost extinct. Just go to nhl.com and sort centers by size. Where are the 6’5-6 centers?

Guys like Ryan Johansen, Sean Monahan, Marc Schleife, PLD, Sean Coutier and many others — are very gifted hockey players — but hardly thriving and carrying their teams. On the other side of the spectrum, these smaller speedier centers thrives, they are match-up monsters, and they produce.

Size is really important on the Wing. (a) It’s there the physical battles are. (b) Unlike the centers, it’s not their job to cover the entire ice sheet. A winger can be two zones behind the play on the back check, preferably a center is back in time to nip the attacking wingers in the heels.

You have to build your roster to compliment other portions. Tampa can rock small speedy centers because they need that to compensate for their giant dmen. Tampa let's the D engage in those physical board battles while the center transports the puck out of there. Watching Lindgren and Fox vs a big center is rough when Strome or Rooney is out there because they both are average skaters and average size.

 

[bleedblue94]

Not even on a 1 year $1M deal?

no, would rather get a hungry player in here with energy rather than go down that road with an older vet that is just here to be here.

jvr will end up on the pp in some manner (taking opp from some of the kids), he cant pk, and he isnt an energy player. it would only be a matter of time before he is on panarin's line and everyone here is losing their minds...

 

[jerseyjinx94]

I don’t have an issue bringing in a vet for the bottom 6 on a cheap short term deal, but I prefer it to be a case of identifying the “right” vet versus “this guy used to be a good player.”

A veteran, with a winning pedigree who knows his role, a la Corey Perry. That kind of move makes sense. Not JVR

 

[Ola]

Thanks for responding.

His skates are definitely Bauer, but aesthetically they look different than the current version of the Vapor Hyperlites. Perhaps he's wearing an older version and that's why they differ? Having a hard time finding stock photos of his exact skate.

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I think all players on our team also have that plastic casing around the skate, that could throw the look of a bit.

 

[bleedblue94]

I don’t have an issue bringing in a vet for the bottom 6 on a cheap short term deal, but I prefer it to be a case of identifying the “right” vet versus “this guy used to be a good player.”

A veteran, with a winning pedigree who knows his role, a la Corey Perry. That kind of move makes sense. Not JVR

This 100 percent.

JVR isnt that kind of player and would be a silly move.

 

[Ola]

I don’t have an issue bringing in a vet for the bottom 6 on a cheap short term deal, but I prefer it to be a case of identifying the “right” vet versus “this guy used to be a good player.”

A veteran, with a winning pedigree who knows his role, a la Corey Perry. That kind of move makes sense. Not JVR

I am of course not able to say that I am certain it would be a good deal, but lol, I do think that Tyler Johnson is a bit intriguing. The guy is only 31 y/o, thought for sure he would be like 34-35.

But it of course depends on his health. He had that Eichel neck surgery and came back and was hit by a puck in the face. But would of course require 50% retention to even be considered.

 

[Ola]

How about trying to snag Tage Thompson out of Buffalo?

would Kakko and Lundkvist for Thompson and Cozens be enough?

I like Dylan Cozens, but he is the type that is just destined for mediocrity in this league, and he is bound to be paid pretty high for it too given his "pedigree". Don't think it makes that much sense to trade assets for someone like him.

Casey Mittlestadt is the one I would target in Buffalo, seems like much more of a potential PO performer with his speed and energy than Dylan Cozens. But what could we have that would go the other way?

 

[Joseph Nathan]

How about trying to snag Tage Thompson out of Buffalo?

would Kakko and Lundkvist for Thompson and Cozens be enough?

Buffalo isn't trading their 1c, especially coming off this season and his cheap money. Buffalo isn't one who will add a young Top c prospect in Cozens either. Awful proposal by you

 

[Ola]

Hopefully Drury goes nuts this summer and pulls of these deals:

Deal 1.
Filip Chytil and Nils Lunkvist to Buffalo for Casey Mittlestadt, Mathias Samuelsson and Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen

Deal 2.
Brendan Schneider for Alex Newhook

Deal 3.
Patrik Nemeth and a 3rd for Tyler Johnson @50%

Deal 4.
Resign Justin Braun

This team would be a Cup contender:
Kreider-Ziba-Kravy
Panarin-Mittlestadt-Hunt
Laf-Newhook-Kakko
Goodrow-TyJo-Blais
Reeves
Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Samuelsson/Jones-Braun
Shesty
Luukkonen

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Hopefully Drury goes nuts this summer and pulls of these deals:

Deal 1.
Filip Chytil and Nils Lunkvist to Buffalo for Casey Mittlestadt, Mathias Samuelsson and Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen

Deal 2.
Brendan Schneider for Alex Newhook

Deal 3.
Patrik Nemeth and a 3rd for Tyler Johnson @50%

Deal 4.
Resign Justin Braun

Kreider-Ziba-Kravy
Panarin-Mittlestadt-Hunt
Laf-Newhook-Kakko
Reeves-TyJo-Blais
Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Samuelsson/Jones-Braun
Shesty
Luukkonen

That 1st deal is horriawful.

Mittlestadt is not the answer and Samuelsson sucks.

 

[Fitzy]

I'd be extremely surprised if NYR trade Schneider.

His role here the second half of the season was as close to an endorsement for the future as I've seen.

 

[RagFinMet]

Hopefully Drury goes nuts this summer and pulls of these deals:

Deal 1.
Filip Chytil and Nils Lunkvist to Buffalo for Casey Mittlestadt, Mathias Samuelsson and Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen

Deal 2.
Brendan Schneider for Alex Newhook

Deal 3.
Patrik Nemeth and a 3rd for Tyler Johnson @50%

Deal 4.
Resign Justin Braun

This team would be a Cup contender:
Kreider-Ziba-Kravy
Panarin-Mittlestadt-Hunt
Laf-Newhook-Kakko
Goodrow-TyJo-Blais
Reeves
Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Samuelsson/Jones-Braun
Shesty
Luukkonen

Well im sure this will get a reaction haha
Trading nils and schneid..not a good idea
Trouba is gone in 2-3 years
Chytil has proven chemistry with laf and kk. How does replacing him with mit an improvement?
Rather sign motte then trade for TyJo
I would consider deal 2 only, for i believe in Nils

 

[EdJovanovski]

 

[McRanger92]

Hopefully Drury goes nuts this summer and pulls of these deals:

Deal 1.
Filip Chytil and Nils Lunkvist to Buffalo for Casey Mittlestadt, Mathias Samuelsson and Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen

Deal 2.
Brendan Schneider for Alex Newhook

Deal 3.
Patrik Nemeth and a 3rd for Tyler Johnson @50%

Deal 4.
Resign Justin Braun

This team would be a Cup contender:
Kreider-Ziba-Kravy
Panarin-Mittlestadt-Hunt
Laf-Newhook-Kakko
Goodrow-TyJo-Blais
Reeves
Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Samuelsson/Jones-Braun
Shesty
Luukkonen

This team would struggle to make the playoffs if Igor doesnt have another ~.940 SV% season.

Im intrigued by the Nemeth for Tyler Johnson framework though