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Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXV

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Savant said:
I think in general the early ELC activation is something that teams care less and less about. Don’t think it’s much of a factor anymore. That being said, there certainly isn’t room for Trivigno on the NHL roster with a healthy Kakko and Rooney either.

Still not sure I think it’s a great idea to use a contract on Trivigno, especially until the Rangers know they are out on Meyers.
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Teams don't really care, but the players love it.

Trivigno, like Jones last year, can bank his signing bonus twice in 3 months by having the contract kick in. And it's an often-used negotiation strategy.
 
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Amazing Kreiderman said:
Teams don't really care, but the players love it.

Trivigno, like Jones last year, can bank his signing bonus twice in 3 months by having the contract kick in. And it's an often-used negotiation strategy.
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For sure. I kind of feel like it’s the standard now honestly. Need to bring that to the table.
 
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Savant said:
For sure. I kind of feel like it’s the standard now honestly. Need to bring that to the table.
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Yeah. When Gorton gave Jones that quicker payout, in return he secured an ELC without any performance bonuses which was very clever.

These kind of negotiations were never really utilized but GMs are getting more and more familiar with how the CBA works, and how to manouvre around certain obstacles.
 
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I'm still of the opinion that I'd rather a more defensively reliable 2C to play with bread. If I lose 10 to 15 points off Strome's best but end up with 15-20 less goals in our net or 30 less penalties then that is an upgrade.

Otherwise there is no way you can get Ziba like production out of your 2C unless you hit a home run draft pick, sacrifice lineup depth with vet min contracts or sacrifice yourself to the LTIR devil.
 
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Savant said:
I think in general the early ELC activation is something that teams care less and less about. Don’t think it’s much of a factor anymore. That being said, there certainly isn’t room for Trivigno on the NHL roster with a healthy Kakko and Rooney either.

Still not sure I think it’s a great idea to use a contract on Trivigno, especially until the Rangers know they are out on Meyers.
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If he signs starting this year NYR can't add anymore udfa contracts starting this season correct? I believe they will now be at 50 out of 50 contract spots. That's why I was surprised they didn't move out any NHL contracts (Hajek, Gaut, Tinder etc...) at the deadline.
 
why lie about something so mundane and so expected?

april fools joke would be like announcing drury is fired
 
Good signing once confirmed. He makes up for one of the seconds the Rangers traded at the deadline. Wish they could get Meyers too but the Rangers likely had to burn a year to sign Trivigno so that puts them at 50 contracts.

Doubt you can sign Meyers without burning a year.
 
RGY said:
The thing is, the bolded was the rebuttal every time to the doomsday, pessimistic, “this isn’t sustainable so everyone stop being happy they are winning” regurgitated and shoved down our throats over and over and over again. I am not even going to call myself optimistic, but I will say that I strongly felt that the bolded would happen, that we just needed to get to the deadline.

And that given how young the team is, we should have been allowed to enjoy some team success even if it relied heavily on Igor for much of it. He is a spectacular goalie, that is what they do. We have a young team learning how to win and learning how to play in this league. And under a new coach. Yes the new coach said all teams employ a lot of the same system. However the personality of the coach, his coaching style, his demeanor, his expectations, his reactions after losses, etc, all that needs to be learned by the team and that takes time. And wouldnt you know it things are starting to come together. Drury had a great trade deadline. Everyone who was ready to jump off a roof after the Buchnevich trade can take a step back and say maybe Drury knows what he is doing, maybe the Buch trade was just a matter of the circumstances at the time.

The bottom line was and is, if you (as in whomev er) wants to be miserable until they win a cup or until the team is playing to YOUR personal standard then go do it on your own time. Dont go telling fellow fans how to feel and that the team sucks even though they are winning games.
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I just tune out most of the negativity.
 
"It's not a lie if you believe it." G. Costanza
"It's not a playoff game, if you tell yourself it's just another game." N.Y. Rangers
 
rangers1314 said:
I really know nothing about this kid. He's already 23.

What are we looking at with him? Just a lottery ticket?
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I really don't get why we're talking about him as much as we are. Vesey had much more impressive college production. I'm not going to complain about a free asset, but he should not be playing on this roster at the moment.
 
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I really know nothing about this kid. He's already 23.

What are we looking at with him? Just a lottery ticket?
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I'm sure if he struggles at all, people will be calling him a bust due to his age, but going from NCAA to AHL/NHL is an adjustment for any player, regardless of age.
 
If you want to suffer an aneurism, listen to Vince Mercogliano's podcast where he discusses the salary cap. The Rangers trading Nemeth's contract and replacing him with a player making $925,000 doesn't help the Rangers cap because they only save $1.575M.
 
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I love a great free asset like Trivingo, but he's a wild man to sign here.🤣 There's some injuries right now so maybe he jumps in and gets some minutes here but looking forward... man he's got a lot of competition. You gotta figure the locks in the top 9 are Kreider, Zib, Panarin, Copp, Kakko, Laf, Chytil. That's 7 right there. Vatrano absolutely should be kept. That's 8. Then you have Goodrow and Blais, maybe Kravtsov. Maybe an outside shot one of the prospects takes the spot. He's got a ton of guys to beat out. Great pick up for us though
 
duhmetreE said:
we should have signed him for less.

I'm not saying 9.5M isn't a good deal but he could have easily signed him for $8M imo. The plethora of defensemen deals, right before his signing, did us no favors.

He wasn't going anywhere. He's a Ranger. He wants to be a Ranger. It is what it is
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Yeah, let's piss off our best or second-best player.
 
The Crypto Guy said:
I'd rather stop giving Panarin half-ass linemates though during his prime. Yes, he makes players better around him but he deserves linemates who are actually good. If Copp will accept 5M, i take him. Strome is gone anyway.
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The issue for me is that we don’t just need to replace Strome, to win a cup we need to build an extremely good 3rd line.

I wouldn’t rule out Chytil working with Panarin completely, but we are far far from seeing Chytil centering a 3rd line that could push back the top lines around the league which Coleman-Gourde-Goodrow and Hagelin-Bonino-Kessel could.

Could Goodrow-Copp-Kakko do that? Possibly. But then, who centers Panarin?
 
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