Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXIV

[HFsNumber1Heel]

I wouldn’t assume Ryan Lindgren is automatically here next season either

Why?

Unless it's part of a Chychrun mega trade Lindgren is on a great value contract until summer 2024 and he's an RFA so they don't have to worry about another Staal or Girardi problem.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

I wouldn’t move Reaves.

Move Nemeth, don’t resign Strome. Sign Copp, hopefully it’s a fair deal. See how much space you have after that for Motte

Nemeth is going to be tough to trade. It might come to a buyout.

 

[Taluss]

Nemeth is going to be tough to trade. It might come to a buyout.

I’m sure we can find a taker. Especially if we attach a late pick to the deal

Hopefully doesn’t come to a buyout

 

[Leetch3]

Nemeth is going to be tough to trade. It might come to a buyout.

if it comes down to it, they will pay an asset to move him. a buyout really doesn't make sense. the buyout cap hit is $1 mil and then when you add whoever replaces him, you aren't saving that much to then also have future dead space

 

[Avery16]

I’m sure we can find a taker. Especially if we attach a late pick to the deal

Hopefully doesn’t come to a buyout

Late picks are about all we have left after TDL

 

[Taluss]

Late picks are about all we have left after TDL

Wow, yeah I wasn’t keeping track and just checked.

1*,4,5,6 this year
1,2,6,6,7 next

Getting a little low there

 

[effen]

Wow, yeah I wasn’t keeping track and just checked.

1*,4,5,6 this year
1,2,6,6,7 next

Getting a little low there

picks are very easy to get

college free agents are substitute picks and the Rangers tend to get a lot of the better ones.

 

[effen]

Why?

Unless it's part of a Chychrun mega trade Lindgren is on a great value contract until summer 2024 and he's an RFA so they don't have to worry about another Staal or Girardi problem.

I think they trade Lindgren this summer to resign Strome or Copp. It's just a dollars/position thing.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Wow, yeah I wasn’t keeping track and just checked.

1*,4,5,6 this year
1,2,6,6,7 next

Getting a little low there

They're going to get some "hope picks" back by moving out guys like Gauthier, Georgiev, Hajek. Not much probably like 6th or 7th rounders.

Kravstov might also go for like two 2nds. I'm not saying it's what I would do but based on the market for him and/or his desire to reconcile with the Rangers.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

I think they trade Lindgren this summer to resign Strome or Copp. It's just a dollars/position thing.

They need a top four LHD though. Robertson isn't ready. It's robbing Peter to pay Paul.

 

[effen]

They need a top four LHD though. Robertson isn't ready. It's robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Zac Jones is probably ready for sheltered minutes for a full season. Fox will have to dial back the stupid bullshit with a partner he has less chemistry with but that is a good thing.

I think they keep Miller-Trouba as the matchup pair.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Zac Jones is probably ready for sheltered minutes for a full season. Fox will have to dial back the stupid bullshit with a partner he has less chemistry with but that is a good thing.

I think they keep Miller-Trouba as the matchup pair.

Too risky for now. Top four now stay together for at least one more year. Jones and Schneider are the third pair. If Robertson makes strides then maybe they start thinking about it next offseason but for now it ain't broke.

 

[Avery16]

Wow, yeah I wasn’t keeping track and just checked.

1*,4,5,6 this year
1,2,6,6,7 next

Getting a little low there

Next year’s 2nd and this year’s first are also in play.

 

[Savant]

Why?

Unless it's part of a Chychrun mega trade Lindgren is on a great value contract until summer 2024 and he's an RFA so they don't have to worry about another Staal or Girardi problem.

Rangers are not going to sit on their hands this summer. Lindgren is on a good contract, but he is one of the few non-ELC movable contracts on the team. With the Rangers defensive depth, no it would not shock me if Lindgren was dealt. Saves money dealing Lindgren and playing Jones/Robertson/etc as well. Rangers will have tough decisions to make because of the cap. Everyone loves Lindgren but it’s a business.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Rangers are not going to sit on their hands this summer. Lindgren is on a good contract, but he is one of the few non-ELC movable contracts on the team. With the Rangers defensive depth, no it would not shock me if Lindgren was dealt. Saves money dealing Lindgren and playing Jones/Robertson/etc as well. Rangers will have tough decisions to make because of the cap. Everyone loves Lindgren but it’s a business.

There is no one in the Rangers organization who can take his minutes. Robertson is doing OK at the AHL level. He's not ready.

Jones and Fox won't work together. Similar styles. Gallant won't give Jones those minutes out of the gate.

This is not me being sentimental. Facts.

 

[RangerBoy]

Kreider-Zibanejad-Kravtsov
Panarin- Copp???-Kakko
Lafreniere-Chytil-Goodrow
Reaves-Blais

Reaves is the 12th/13th forward. He doesn't need to play all 82 games.

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Jones-Schneider

Shesterkin
Gustavsson

Lafreniere on LW opens up a spot on RW. Buchnevich flourished with Zibanejad and Kreider. Put Kravtsov with them. Kravtsov signs a one year contract for $900,000. His QO is $832,500. Give the Rangers that contract for next season. It fits their cap. A shotgun marriage. Kravtsov raises his value and the Rangers can trade him. The Rangers don't have the money for another player. It is that tight.



Lafreniere on LW with Chytil gives Filip a quality player to play with on his wing. We can finally answer the Chytil question. Should he stay or should he go? No Strome opens up PP time for Lafreniere and Kakko.

Blais signs his one year QO for $1.6M.

Acquire Gustavsson from Ottawa to backup Igor. He has one year remaining on his 2 year SPC. His waiver eligibility is over after this season. Ottawa just gave Forsberg $2.75M AAV for three seasons and they have Matt Murray for two more seasons at $6.25M. Gustavsson's cap hit is $787,500. His contract becomes a one-way deal next season.

Trade Nemeth's contract with a prospect or draft pick to Arizona. Free up the $2.5M AAV for the next two seasons.

$2.5M for Kakko. One year deal. Copp at $5M leaves the Rangers with $4,128,531. The Rangers sweet spot is $5M-$5.5M. The cap will be tight for the next two seasons. They need two more forwards and one more D. Leave $1M or $1.2M to operate the team and accrue cap space for the trade deadline. Three cheap players. The Rangers have a few players signed for next season who could fit. Hunt. Brodzinski.

Robertson can compete for a spot on D or be the first AHL call up. $797,500. Drury didn't trade a prospect D at the deadline. He traded Barron. The media looks at some of the D prospects as trade chips. Lundkvist is the trade chip. The other D prospects are players who can help the Rangers fill out their lineup in a cap crunch.

Cuylle plays in the AHL next season. Othmann stays in the OHL next season.

What happens to Lundkvist in this scenario? Where do the Rangers find the center under team control?

 

[cheech70]

TDL Drury A+

 

[Fitzy]

I think they trade Lindgren this summer to resign Strome or Copp. It's just a dollars/position thing.

This would be gutsy, but potentially premature. 3 million dollars is nothing. Moving Nemeth gets us most of the way there.

Drury signed the 3 year bridge for a reason. NYR have the flexibility when and if Jones and Robertson become NHL players right before they have to make a decision on a long term extension for a player likely to start declining pretty fast at 28-29.

 

[Vitto79]

I’ve seen a lot of people say Reaves is critical to the teams culture (which idk it may or may not be true), but if the team culture and style falls apart if one 13th forward is gone, the team has bigger issues. If it was up to me I’d easily give Reaves money to Motte and not think twice


That’s the issue, you’re paying him almost 2 million a year and the coach probably doesn’t think he’s good enough to play when it matters most

Maybe , Maybe not . With this lineup he’s an odd man out sure. Vs the right team he can help

 

[Off Sides]

Kreider-Zibanejad-Kravtsov
Panarin- Copp???-Kakko
Lafreniere-Chytil-Goodrow
Reaves-Blais

Reaves is the 12th/13th forward. He doesn't need to play all 82 games.

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Jones-Schneider

Shesterkin
Gustavsson

Lafreniere on LW opens up a spot on RW. Buchnevich flourished with Zibanejad and Kreider. Put Kravtsov with them. Kravtsov signs a one year contract for $900,000. His QO is $832,500. Give the Rangers that contract for next season. It fits their cap. A shotgun marriage. Kravtsov raises his value and the Rangers can trade him. The Rangers don't have the money for another player. It is that tight.



Lafreniere on LW with Chytil gives Filip a quality player to play with on his wing. We can finally answer the Chytil question. Should he stay or should he go? No Strome opens up PP time for Lafreniere and Kakko.

Blais signs his one year QO for $1.6M.

Acquire Gustavsson from Ottawa to backup Igor. He has one year remaining on his 2 year SPC. His waiver eligibility is over after this season. Ottawa just gave Forsberg $2.75M AAV for three seasons and they have Matt Murray for two more seasons at $6.25M. Gustavsson's cap hit is $787,500. His contract becomes a one-way deal next season.

Trade Nemeth's contract with a prospect or draft pick to Arizona. Free up the $2.5M AAV for the next two seasons.

$2.5M for Kakko. One year deal. Copp at $5M leaves the Rangers with $4,128,531. The Rangers sweet spot is $5M-$5.5M. The cap will be tight for the next two seasons. They need two more forwards and one more D. Leave $1M or $1.2M to operate the team and accrue cap space for the trade deadline. Three cheap players. The Rangers have a few players signed for next season who could fit. Hunt. Brodzinski.

Robertson can compete for a spot on D or be the first AHL call up. $797,500. Drury didn't trade a prospect D at the deadline. He traded Barron. The media looks at some of the D prospects as trade chips. Lundkvist is the trade chip. The other D prospects are players who can help the Rangers fill out their lineup in a cap crunch.

Cuylle plays in the AHL next season. Othmann stays in the OHL next season.

What happens to Lundkvist in this scenario? Where do the Rangers find the center under team control?

Nemeth has an 8 team no trade clause, why it was necessary I have no idea, yet Arizona might be on it.

Copp on the UFA market likely gets better offers in total contract money than him signing a 1 or 2 year deal at 5M with the Rangers. For someone with injury issues the total contract money may be an important factor.

 

[TheDirtyH]

Copp has 3 points in 2 games with us in what was already a career year. He had a ton of interest in the trade market, he's highly regarded. If he continues to score with us, and especially if we surprise in the playoffs and he performs there, I don't think his contract demands will be terribly different than strome.

Personally I think anything less that 5.5 over 5 is a pipedream, and I think he'll be pushing north of 6/6.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Maybe , Maybe not . With this lineup he’s an odd man out sure. Vs the right team he can help

Reaves helped a lot from last fall until now. The same way guys like Prospal and Fedotenko did like 11-12 years ago.

Another of Quinn's downfalls was not having guys like that in the room. The TDA/Georgiev thing, doesn't go down like that. None of the clownery from last season.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Copp has 3 points in 2 games with us in what was already a career year. He had a ton of interest in the trade market, he's highly regarded. If he continues to score with us, and especially if we surprise in the playoffs and he performs there, I don't think his contract demands will be terribly different than strome.

Personally I think anything less that 5.5 over 5 is a pipedream, and I think he'll be pushing north of 6/6.

Copp is also at that age where he will be ripe. Gradual improvement. It feels like he's been around forever but he's only going to be 28 this offseason.

 

[Avery16]

Reaves helped a lot from last fall until now. The same way guys like Prospal and Fedotenko did like 11-12 years ago.

Another of Quinn's downfalls was not having guys like that in the room. The TDA/Georgiev thing, doesn't go down like that. None of the clownery from last season.

ADA is still 26 and has 41 pts/46 GP this season. We should have a young, cost-controlled 2C to show for that. Instead, we have a temperamental backup who won’t be here next season and had no trade value at all. What a mess.

 

[TheDirtyH]

Copp is also at that age where he will be ripe. Gradual improvement. It feels like he's been around forever but he's only going to be 28 this offseason.

I like the player and I don’t hate the fit either, but I’m seeing a lot of people writing him into a contract under 5 and I don’t think that’s realistic at all.

Many of us when we signed trouba we’re projecting in the 6-6.5 range. Some folks said they’d be comfortable with 7. He goes and signs for 8. Copp is his best friend since they were 10, left Winnipeg for similar reasons, and shares the same agent. I don’t think he’s going to do us any favors on a new contract—especially if he performs well here. JMHO.