Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XXXIII

[Griffinbw]

Hope this doesn't mean he's boutta get involved like he is with the Knicks. Seems like they're gonna keep most of their picks tho which is good

Quick. Someone hire his band so he can’t get involved

 

[bobbop]

Time to make room for younger players. Smith is immovable. Even at 50% retention, he’s at best a 6-7 and not on a good team. I fully expect he will be bought out because the salary cap implications are minor and very manageable.

Shattenkirk has little value right now but I think the Rangers will hang on for one more year to see if he regains value. He is right handed and you still have to field a team. He also is the one of the three who I think could rebuild his value.

Staal is probably safe for now. A very highly overpaid third pair player.

 

[bobbop]

Where we going? This D group is marginally better than this years at best.

Am I the only one who finds Trouba incredibly overrated? Add in the fact that he can't stay healthy, remind me why we should be willing to pay him the massive deal he wants?

You watch Winnipeg much? Trouba is not overrated at all. In fact, the reason I am so high on him is that I think he is underrated. Mobile, smart, excellent first pass and physical, dependable defender. A really good player.

 

[ETTER DE]

Rangers gonna need a defensively sound RD. It will take to long to develop one. Trouba is to expensive. Brett Pesce should be the target. 5 years for a cap hit just over 4 million is very appealing. Take on Scott Darling in the trade and buy him out. Skjei plus a top forward project for Pesce and Darling?

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Rangers gonna need a defensively sound RD. It will take to long to develop one. Trouba is to expensive. Brett Pesce should be the target. 5 years for a cap hit just over 4 million is very appealing. Take on Scott Darling in the trade and buy him out. Skjei plus a top forward project for Pesce and Darling?

Canes wanted Nylander for Pesce I highly doubt they do it for Skjei, who makes more then Pesce btw.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

You watch Winnipeg much? Trouba is not overrated at all. In fact, the reason I am so high on him is that I think he is underrated. Mobile, smart, excellent first pass and physical, dependable defender. A really good player.

I watch them a fair amount, not like the Rangers obviously but over a season probably 20 or so games on center ice. I like him as a player, I think he can be a 1D of McDonagh's level on a good team. What I don't like is the high price he's going to want and what it might cost to get him from Winnipeg. I don’t like that he’s injured all the time. I think he wants to be paid like a top 5 D in the league and even though I like him a lot, I don't think he's in that tier. I guess you're right, overrated is the wrong term to use when talking about him.

 

[Barnaby]

This is his favorite defensive pair:

Graves-Bereglazov

Pepperidge Farm remembers

 

[Elliman]

Quick. Someone hire his band so he can’t get involved

EK + AP + ZUCC hype incoming. Let’s not show our hand or anything Mr Dolan. FFS.

 

[ETTER DE]

Canes wanted Nylander for Pesce I highly doubt they do it for Skjei, who makes more then Pesce btw.[/QUOTE
Yes I know. But if Rangers buys out Darling instead of Carolina and they get a valuable forward prospect or one of of Rangers younger forwards they might start to think about it. Pesce has been used on the left on the 2nd pairing resently if I understand it right. But you are probably right. It would likely take Zibanejad to get a deal done.

 

[bobbop]

I watch them a fair amount, not like the Rangers obviously but over a season probably 20 or so games on center ice. I like him as a player, I think he can be a 1D of McDonagh's level on a good team. What I don't like is the high price he's going to want and what it might cost to get him from Winnipeg. I don’t like that he’s injured all the time. I think he wants to be paid like a top 5 D in the league and even though I like him a lot, I don't think he's in that tier. I guess you're right, overrated is the wrong term to use when talking about him.

I’m less worried about the contract than I am about the trade capital. Let’s be clear, I don’t want to package an inordinate amount of assets to acquire him. I do want to investigate.

I’d be much more worried about the injuries if there was a chronic problem (e.g. knee, shoulder) rather than an assortment of ills. Funny but when he was first hurt in his rookie season, he did an interview and said he hadn’t been hurt in several years.

 

[egelband]

Dolan trusts Slats to do his thing, who trusts Gorton to do his.

Would have to imagine Dolan would have minimal input. Honestly I’m even surprised he knew how much cap space they’d have.

That said every Ranger fan should be praying Dolan doesn’t sell the Knicks and Rangers. Guy is the perfect owner for this team. Literally signs the checks and meddles almost never

Absolutely. I know he has made some messes with the Knicks but he has been terrific with the rangers.

 

[Ola]

Some wanted to trade Buchnevich for him...

Big guy who skates well. Rushed to the NHL too.

I still think that there is a big very deep rooted bias in favor of bigger guys in this league.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

EK + AP + ZUCC hype incoming. Let’s not show our hand or anything Mr Dolan. FFS.

Zuccarello is signing in Dallas

 

[duhmetreE]

Hope this doesn't mean he's boutta get involved like he is with the Knicks. Seems like they're gonna keep most of their picks tho which is good

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Hope this doesn't mean he's boutta get involved like he is with the Knicks. Seems like they're gonna keep most of their picks tho which is good

Wonderful - 10 more years of mediocrity incoming.

 

[pld459666]

You watch Winnipeg much? Trouba is not overrated at all. In fact, the reason I am so high on him is that I think he is underrated. Mobile, smart, excellent first pass and physical, dependable defender. A really good player.

Dependable in what way?

This will be just the 2nd time in his 6 year career that he's played in more than 70 games.

I like him, I'd take him on this team, but I also look at his body of work and think he's a solid defender that's not reliable to stay healthy and remain in the line up.

That's a concern for me

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

It must be a rough time for sports fans in New York .

Zuccarello: Gone
Porzingis: Gone
OBJ: Gone

When is Aaron Judge traded?

 

[Ghost of jas]

Sounds to me that, based on the information @BBKers provided, and now what Dolan said, Trouba seems likely to me. It also tells me either they’re re-signing Kreider or they have their eyes on what happens in Toronto.

Saying they’re going to spend money doesn’t mean overpaying for Panarin.

 

[RangerBoy]

The Rangers need to re-sign some of their own players too.

Pavel Buchnevich is a group II with arb rights. The guy has produced when given the opportunity and the coach isn't jerking him around. Let the guy play. Buchnevich hasn't had the type of season to give him a long-term deal. Bridge deal. 2 years. $3M-$3,5M AAV? He does have .54 points per game in his career.

Pionk has his flaws. The Rangers like him better than some of the fans. Bridge deal. Stecher has a $2.325M cap hit. Same situation, Bridge deal. Player coming out of college as a free agent. Pionk is a better offensive player. Those players usually get a little more.

Some of the Rangers cap space will go towards those two players. ~$6M.

Deangelo has no arb rights. The Rangers will make him play at his QO of $874,125. He has played well in his limited time too. July 15.

Lemieux has no arb rights. Same situation as Tony. $874,125. July 15.

How much will the Rangers D change for next season? They have three bad contracts and Skjei. Pionk. Deangelo. Hajek.

The Rangers have 4 more years of the Girardi buyout. Do they want more 2/3 buyout money on their cap?

Nick Kypreos was talking about Panarin and Duchene struggling for Columbus. What are they? The closer you look at them. They aren't the players to lead a team to a championship. Both of them will get crazy money. He grouped them together. Panarin has disappeared. He has 1 goal in 12 games. Duchene is like Kessel who found his niche in Pittsburgh playing behind Crosby and Malkin. Phil put up points but wasn't a top guy. Both of them are like Kessel.

The Rangers have made that mistake before with Nash. They brought him to be the top dog but he was like Kessel too.

Some people here say the Rangers should keep Kreider and Mika. Have them be secondary players and the Rangers get better players to play in front of them. What happens when Panarin needs someone to drive the bus and lead? A team isn't paying him $11M for just points.

Kreider had 20 goals in the first 37 games. He has 6 in that last 32. Even his biggest cheerleader brought up his disappearing act.

So Chris Kreider’s rather extended walkabout in which he was bounced off the first line, shuttled to the fourth unit for a time and has settled well, who knows where, either complicates the issue or confirms it for management.

Because no one can tell me this stretch in which the winger has no goals and two assists in the last seven at exactly the wrong time is not going to factor considerably in the decision whether to sign Kreider to a pricey, long-term contract extension or trade the 28-year-old (as of April 30) at the draft before he gets into his walk year.

But you know what, too? A couple of those games where Did You See Chris was followed only by a question mark should not have been enough for Quinn to separate Kreider from Mika Zibanejad, himself with no goals and two assists in the last half-dozen matches.

The Rangers know this player better than anybody. Chris is in his 6th full season as a Ranger. He has played parts of two other seasons with the Rangers. They know what he is.

Time to trade Chris this summer at the draft.

 

[darko]

It must be a rough time for sports fans in New York .

Zuccarello: Gone
Porzingis: Gone
OBJ: Gone

When is Aaron Judge traded?

Yankees aren't stupid.

 

[darko]

Zuccarello is signing in Dallas

Yup.

 

[BroadwayBlues]

It must be a rough time for sports fans in New York .

Zuccarello: Gone
Porzingis: Gone
OBJ: Gone

When is Aaron Judge traded?

Never.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Hope this doesn't mean he's boutta get involved like he is with the Knicks. Seems like they're gonna keep most of their picks tho which is good

Yeah use it on their RFAs.

They’re not going to nuke their flexibility before they know what they have.

 

[Edge]

The Rangers need to re-sign some of their own players too.

Pavel Buchnevich is a group II with arb rights. The guy has produced when given the opportunity and the coach isn't jerking him around. Let the guy play. Buchnevich hasn't had the type of season to give him a long-term deal. Bridge deal. 2 years. $3M-$3,5M AAV? He does have .54 points per game in his career.

Pionk has his flaws. The Rangers like him better than some of the fans. Bridge deal. Stecher has a $2.325M cap hit. Same situation, Bridge deal. Player coming out of college as a free agent. Pionk is a better offensive player. Those players usually get a little more.

Some of the Rangers cap space will go towards those two players. ~$6M.

Deangelo has no arb rights. The Rangers will make him play at his QO of $874,125. He has played well in his limited time too. July 15.

Lemieux has no arb rights. Same situation as Tony. $874,125. July 15.

How much will the Rangers D change for next season? They have three bad contracts and Skjei. Pionk. Deangelo. Hajek.

The Rangers have 4 more years of the Girardi buyout. Do they want more 2/3 buyout money on their cap?

Nick Kypreos was talking about Panarin and Duchene struggling for Columbus. What are they? The closer you look at them. They aren't the players to lead a team to a championship. Both of them will get crazy money. He grouped them together. Panarin has disappeared. He has 1 goal in 12 games. Duchene is like Kessel who found his niche in Pittsburgh playing behind Crosby and Malkin. Phil put up points but wasn't a top guy. Both of them are like Kessel.

The Rangers have made that mistake before with Nash. They brought him to be the top dog but he was like Kessel too.

Some people here say the Rangers should keep Kreider and Mika. Have them be secondary players and the Rangers get better players to play in front of them. What happens when Panarin needs someone to drive the bus and lead? A team isn't paying him $11M for just points.

Kreider had 20 goals in the first 37 games. He has 6 in that last 32. Even his biggest cheerleader brought up his disappearing act.





The Rangers know this player better than anybody. Chris is in his 6th full season as a Ranger. He has played parts of two other seasons with the Rangers. They know what he is.

Time to trade Chris this summer at the draft.

Uncle Larry forgot to take his happy pills when sitting down at Ye Old Keyboard.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Lol at ye old keyboard