There are a ton of teams, good teams, that would take Hank at 4.75 a year.
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There are a ton of teams, good teams, that would take Hank at 4.75 a year.
pld459666
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I'm sure there a 2-3 teams that would inquire, but I doubt the return would be great.
I think the Blues come to mind immediately, but I doubt they offer anything our Fanbase would consider a decent return
Calgary, San Jose, Nashville, possibly Winnipeg and depending on how quickly things turn for them, Colorado too.
San Jose is the one who makes the most sense to me.
Oscar Lindberg
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Nothing better than starting the day out seeing a “look how smart I am” post from RB
UAGoalieGuy
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Unless he comes out and asks for a trade, Lundqvist will be staying the duration of his contract, and he deserves that.
After that contract is up it's a bit of a different ballgame unless he takes one year deals to be the backup to his successor at a large reduction in pay. At that point Sheshyorkin or Georgiev will have a good amount of NHL games under their belts.
After that contract is up it's a bit of a different ballgame unless he takes one year deals to be the backup to his successor at a large reduction in pay. At that point Sheshyorkin or Georgiev will have a good amount of NHL games under their belts.
I am the same age as Hank, have followed him very closely over the years.
Hank’s NHL career have been very challenging for him. I think it’s always been a struggle for him to on one side be as exposed as he has been, face the pressure, show up for the work he has and on the other side experience the amazing unique advantages he gets from his career.
He came from his home town team (almost) with a bunch of teammates that he had always played with in Frolunda forever to the NYR team in the state it was in 05’. So few guys his age on the team (anyone?). It was dropped very fast, but he did have sort of a break down during that PO series against NJ. It was said to be migraines, head ache from biting his teeths when sleeping or whatever. The years passes by so fast, but for us who was around back then right after the lockout, it was still such a crazy atmosphere around this team. Everything was always on the edge, the drama. The extent coaches where questioned, players. Always guys getting booed so bad.
The thing, the key, is, I think Hank for more or less his entire career in NY has felt that he has walked a fine line handling the pressure. I think that he has forced his way through that pressure because the upside, the positives, of his career has been so amazing. He has committed to himself probably more than anyone else to live through all the hard ship to get to experience all the amazing things he has.
In short, the amazing moments are there for Hank in his life, the struggle is to keep a durable mental status the rest of the time. In this context, going to a contender to try to win a Cup makes no sense for him. Furthermore, if he is overtaken by like Geo, I don’t for a second think he would even hesitate to retire.
Then some will say that ‘why doesn’t he retire now, nobody wants him, he isn’t helping us, we would be better of without him’. The thing is, we know that that is not how the GM feels, how the player feels or how the coach feels. They believe in adding future assets, but they don’t believe in totally sinking the ship for a 7-8 year reabuild thing. Like it or not, that is a fact, and it motivates Hank to keep playing.
Hank is doing — much — more commercials than he ever has before in Sweden. He is all over. Is he filling the barns? Wouldn’t be surprised if he played one more year and then retired. Got some time with Shesty.
I don’t link to any quote by Hank above or stuff like that, I am speculating a lot. Take it for what it is worth.
Hank’s NHL career have been very challenging for him. I think it’s always been a struggle for him to on one side be as exposed as he has been, face the pressure, show up for the work he has and on the other side experience the amazing unique advantages he gets from his career.
He came from his home town team (almost) with a bunch of teammates that he had always played with in Frolunda forever to the NYR team in the state it was in 05’. So few guys his age on the team (anyone?). It was dropped very fast, but he did have sort of a break down during that PO series against NJ. It was said to be migraines, head ache from biting his teeths when sleeping or whatever. The years passes by so fast, but for us who was around back then right after the lockout, it was still such a crazy atmosphere around this team. Everything was always on the edge, the drama. The extent coaches where questioned, players. Always guys getting booed so bad.
The thing, the key, is, I think Hank for more or less his entire career in NY has felt that he has walked a fine line handling the pressure. I think that he has forced his way through that pressure because the upside, the positives, of his career has been so amazing. He has committed to himself probably more than anyone else to live through all the hard ship to get to experience all the amazing things he has.
In short, the amazing moments are there for Hank in his life, the struggle is to keep a durable mental status the rest of the time. In this context, going to a contender to try to win a Cup makes no sense for him. Furthermore, if he is overtaken by like Geo, I don’t for a second think he would even hesitate to retire.
Then some will say that ‘why doesn’t he retire now, nobody wants him, he isn’t helping us, we would be better of without him’. The thing is, we know that that is not how the GM feels, how the player feels or how the coach feels. They believe in adding future assets, but they don’t believe in totally sinking the ship for a 7-8 year reabuild thing. Like it or not, that is a fact, and it motivates Hank to keep playing.
Hank is doing — much — more commercials than he ever has before in Sweden. He is all over. Is he filling the barns? Wouldn’t be surprised if he played one more year and then retired. Got some time with Shesty.
I don’t link to any quote by Hank above or stuff like that, I am speculating a lot. Take it for what it is worth.
Calad
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Lundqvist, Staal, Shattenkirk, Smith. All of the books in time for the expansion draft. This team is gonna look very different in 2 years. The FA pool the 2 seasons following this one is pretty barren. Sign Panarin and Karlsson this off-season and have them be the foundation that this team builds its next team around.
I think that the issue that Quinn and Gorton face is that they really should be giving ice time to hajek and Lingren next year. Sure you can slide Smith to wing, but that still leaves a glut that the kids cannot break through to.
You need vets to take pressure off kids and not put them into roles that they are not ready for. You also need veteran leadership. ZBad & Kreider provide this. Legit top line players who are leaders in the locker room.
As for Smith, who is paying his salary to be a 4th line wing/3rd pair defenseman?
Machinehead
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Absolutely no to trading Zibanejad. 25, great contract.
You pick top 10 specifically to get players like that.
You pick top 10 specifically to get players like that.
I truly think that people are just not appreciative of what they have and that the pastures are always greener on the other side. Zbad is playing the best center that we have seen on NYR since a someone named Gretzky was skating here. You only hope to get a player like that in the top 10.
Machinehead
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"Oh look, Matthew Tkachuk, that's what this team needs"
6 more points than Zibanejad, and look at the teammates.
6 more points than Zibanejad, and look at the teammates.
NYR94
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Trading kreider and zibanejad sounds like perpetual rebuild territory. They showed a stat last night that showed the rangers were 2nd or 3rd youngest team in nhl. You need actual NHL prime players even in a rebuild. No veteran impact guys on a young inexperienced team doesn't sound like an ideal environment for developing young players unless you're comfortable throwing the kids to the wolves.
Dose of reality for HF: Rangers draft Turcotte or Zegras. They naturally take time to develop. Eventually, they MAY get to the level of a Zibanejad. On this board, they get crucified for a) not being top line centers immediately, b) not being "generational" or "elite". Gorton's vilified for not forcing a team to deal him the 1OA pick and get Hughes.
Machinehead
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Rangers fans: "I've had it with Andersson. Bust written all over him."
Also Rangers fans: "Got anymore of them top 10 picks?"
That's the part that shocks me. People are screaming that they do not want a perpetual rebuild a la edmonton or Carolina. Then they want to go out and make moves that absolutely ensures that. A line that features Kreider and Zibanejad can go up against the opposing team's top lines each night and can occupy the opposition's top defense pairing every night. That allows the younger players not to be forced into roles that they are not ready for. That allows for younger players do develop at their own pace and not have to deal with unfair expectations and pressure.
Zibanejad is the kind of player that should be built around in a normal world. But the Rangers world will not be normal if the prospects don't take major steps early in their development, something that looks like it's not currently happening. The organization must weigh this carefully.
Not quite, just trying to bring some objectivity to a group think stance on these boards.
NYR94
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I think sometimes people lose sight of what happens to the individual players in terms of their confidence and long term development when they're not put in a position to be successful and given the time to grow. There's a preoccupation with tearing it completely down in the singular pursuit of nabbing that coveted lottery pick but what kind if roster are you icing in an effort to do that and is that what's in the best interest of your organization as a whole. Seems to be potentially damaging a bunch of kids in the organization just to draft the next McDavid. Who wants to see kids like chytil and howden get dominated every night just so they can draft a kid 1st who will be thrown into the same environment but with 10 times the expectations and pressure due to draft pedigree.
aside from a crazy offer that you can't turn down. you only move mika if you don't think there is a chance of competing in the next 5 years
haohmaru
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We've been waiting 15-20 years for a guy to put up true #1C points. Now, we've got one who's all of 25 years old and some people want to trade him for draft picks so we can wait another 15-20 years for a true #1C. Ridiculous.
eco's bones
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Matt Tkachuk is a hell of a player though. Made the jump his draft year and scored 48 points as a rookie for a pretty shitty Calgary team. He's only 21 years old now and yeah it helps having Gaudreau, Monahan, Giordano and Lindhom on your team but arguably he's as good as any of them and I'd say better for sure than Lindholm. His brother Brady is going to be great too. I'd love to have either---besides all of that they're big and nasty and hard to play against. A lot of people shit all over Brady last year because he only put up 8 or 9 goals at BU. He's going to be a 20 goal guy this year in the NHL as a teenager.
This is not to take anything away from Mika who has had a tremendous year for us and does everything and plays hard and tough like a power forward. He's by far our best player this year IMO. He's proven to me that he's a legit 1st line center.
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