Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXIII - 2 months until TDL

[Savant]

If you don’t want to pay Kakko’s RFA raise, they really should start thinking about sending him to Arizona for Chychrun. That may be an economically smart trade. Then you can tap into the prospect depth on D to improve the right side of the forward lines. If Kakko is going to get a raise around Chychrun’s cap hit/or there is a possible Kotkaniemi scenario, you at least need to have that conversation. Just simple math.

 

[DanielBrassard]

If you don’t want to pay Kakko’s RFA raise, they really should start thinking about sending him to Arizona for Chychrun. That may be an economically smart trade. Then you can tap into the prospect depth on D to improve the right side of the forward lines. If Kakko is going to get a raise around Chychrun’s cap hit/or there is a possible Kotkaniemi scenario, you at least need to have that conversation. Just simple math.

It's an interesting thought.

 

[Bruner4329]

Laf Zib Kakko
Panarin Strome Chytil
Kreider Barron Goodrow
Hunt Rooney Reaves/Gauthier

And Turk needs to get KK and Laf some PP time in Strome's spot to develop confidence. Let Strome QB the 2nd unit.

Moving Kreider away from Zibs is dumber than dumb. He has been one of our more productive players along with Zib. So the theory is split them up with the hope of moving 2 huge disappointments onto the first line with Zibs so maybe they can be more productive. No coach in his right mind would make this move.

 

[mike14]

We have 3 seasons after this one where Shesty is signed at $5.6m, after that he likely becomes overpaid* (* overpaid in that like Hank, he'll have earned whatever his next contract is, but giving goalies big $$ never seems to work out well...)
At that point Panarin and Trouba will have 1 year lefts on their deals, CK will be 34ish and Mike 32ish.
The idea seemed to be is to have those good players, and fill around them with our high-end picks, who were going to be cheap-ish for a while. Fox has gone nuts and starts costing us next season, and the 3 amigos up forward haven't done much of anything this far, with KK an RFA after this year and Laf after next.
I'm very interested to know how much emphasis Drury has on the short-term window and how much mid-to-long term future he's prepared to gamble to make that window count. As mentioned above, Chychrun and his $4m contract fits the short-term window perfectly, finishing the same time as Shesty's

 

[egelband]

Go get Lehkonen and stick him at RW. He can play with any line. Cost won’t be prohibitive

I think the cost is higher than we think. Though Gorton may have a pet prospect in the Rangers system he’s interested in. Might be an edge for us.

 

[egelband]

I sincerely doubt he will be made available.

Yeah, I can’t believe they’re ready to give up on him. These guys take time. Unless there’s some red flag. But if the Rangers see that red flag, I’d think other teams see it as well.

 

[DanielBrassard]

I'm not sure what the cost would be but Brandon Hagel is high on my wish list. He has something that this team sorely lacks, a motor. Plus he's just a really good player.

 

[Savant]

It's an interesting thought.

I mean Chychrun is a 23 year old probably 1LHD locked in for three more years at around 4.6m. If you are going to have to pay Kakko around that much on a bridge, you need to ask yourselves what player is going to be delivering more value. Especially with the Rangers have very little room as is under the cap and the squeeze getting worse. Nothing personal just economics. Easier to get Wingers than top pair caliber D men

 

[McRanger92]

If you look at the teams who were or are building towards a goal, rarely do they add a pure rental. The make moves for now and the future. Carolina added Skjei and Trochek. TB added Goodrow and Coleman, McDonagh. If you’re going to spend assets, then you need to concentrate on making those additions longer lasting effects. It’s okay to make moves but it beyond horrible asset management to throw them away for a month or two of service

As someone firmly in the pro-buying rentals camp. This is an excellent point. The Miller/Chychrun rumors tracks with that

 

[McRanger92]

If you don’t want to pay Kakko’s RFA raise, they really should start thinking about sending him to Arizona for Chychrun. That may be an economically smart trade. Then you can tap into the prospect depth on D to improve the right side of the forward lines. If Kakko is going to get a raise around Chychrun’s cap hit/or there is a possible Kotkaniemi scenario, you at least need to have that conversation. Just simple math.

Georgiev, Kakko & a pick for Chychrun & Kessel. Not sure I could pull the trigger but it’s not an immediate no

 

[CLW]

Trading Kakko AND keeping Strome long term is like a nightmade scenario for me

So let’s hope to god that doesn’t come to fruition

The Rangers should trade Kakko & Laf to the Canes, they'd be superstars in no time.

 

[bbny]

It seems crazy to me that a guy like Morgan Barron is being denied a legitimate chance with the way some guys are playing in our current lineup. There's guys like him who deserve a better look, and guys in the lineup who deserve to be taken out.

 

[jay from jersey]

It seems crazy to me that a guy like Morgan Barron is being denied a legitimate chance with the way some guys are playing in our current lineup. There's guys like him who deserve a better look, and guys in the lineup who deserve to be taken out.

This is 1 of his biggest roster blunders. The kid has performed well in the A for the last 2 seasons. And much like Schneider, he’s looked good in limited NHL play so far. The fact that he can’t get a regular look in the bottom 6 is weird to me.

 

[McRanger92]

It’s time to tell Laf to suck it up and give him a long term shot on RW in the top 6. Doesn’t matter with who. Barron should be up here as 3C with Goodrow on the left. An upgrade on Chytil is needed, it’s over for him here. Wouldn’t even mind straight up for Lehkonen To give us a true shutdown 3rd line. Give me Chychrun too, they need a guy like him to give Fox a break and the contract is perfect. Good night LGR

 

[tlk]

An upgrade on Chytil is needed, it’s over for him here.

Oof.
An upgrade that'll carry an ahl line to stardom? Good luck.

 

[Circus86]

Running out of patience with KK and Laf. I know Laf is young but wasn't he supposed to be the next superstar 1OA. Haven't seen any superstar in the making here. Kakko looks worse now somehow than 2 years ago. We won two lotteries but would have been better off with Zegras and Lundell. As 1c and 2c. Saved Mikas cap and kept Buch. Can't make this shit up anymore. On the other hand, no guarantee Zegras or Lundell would have made it here.

 

[QJL]

Mika with 18 points in his last 13 games. At least our “#1C” is alive and thriving.

 

[leetch99]

A couple of things are becoming clear to me…

Schneider is here for the duration and he has made Lundkvist expendable. I’ve always felt that Nils was the most likely of the young defensemen to move. Now I am sure. With Fox and Trouba, the right side is locked down for the next several years. Schneider isn’t going back to Hartford.

Kakko is going to be available for trade this summer, maybe sooner if the right deal presents itself. He is going to be a good, not great NHL player but it’s time to capitalize on his reputation and move him, preferably for a young NHL center. At this point of his career he shouldn’t be benched for performance. I keep waiting but it isn’t coming.

And finally, this team needs reinforcements. We’ve all known that but the Rangers are going to catch Carolina in the first or second round of the playoffs. As constituted right now, that would be a short series. We need more if we are going to have a punchers chance.

Yup agree on Kakko . He won't be a Ranger much longer . Neither will Chytil or Strome or Gauthier probaby .

 

[Vitto79]

Running out of patience with KK and Laf. I know Laf is young but wasn't he supposed to be the next superstar 1OA. Haven't seen any superstar in the making here. Kakko looks worse now somehow than 2 years ago. We won two lotteries but would have been better off with Zegras and Lundell. As 1c and 2c. Saved Mikas cap and kept Buch. Can't make this shit up anymore. On the other hand, no guarantee Zegras or Lundell would have made it here.

That’s the thing NYR has to be patient
The teams winning so i would stay the course hoping one breaks out

I can’t blame Laf he’s blocked in the top 6
He really needs to figure out RW

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Out for 2022/3: Kakko isn’t going anywhere guys (yet)
Nemeth
Georgiev
Chytil
Kravtsov
Gauthier
Lundqvist
Strome?
Hajek? May be a decent cheap #7

 

[NYR Viper]

Short term answer is:

Georgiev for Koskinen + 2nd + 4th

Lehkonen for Gauthier + previously mentioned 2nd

I would very seriously consider sending Lafreniere down and pulling Barron up. It’s about confidence and playing time. The kid needs both. He’s not moving his feet.

Kreider-Zib-Chytil
Panarin-Strome-Kaako
Barron-Goodrow-Lehkonen
Hunt-Rooney-Reaves

Also, bench Nemeth.

 

[RGY]

Chytil is f***ing terrible and useless. Plays just die on his stick. No excuses now, he is getting to play with Panarin and he is still just as painful to watch. Him and Nemeth are the first two that must go.

Anyways, last night they sucked. They looked slow and not interested. At least not until the 3rd period. Dumb penalties and plays led to goals against. Throw that game away. Come back and win tonight against Arizona. Get an up close look at Chychrun.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

One bad game. Relax.

They had a cupcake schedule the first 8 weeks of the season and since they started facing more play off teams, their record has slipped to 9-7-1 with a GD of 47-45. Still above .500 but hardly contender-numbers. They rank 14th league-wide in point percentage since their schedule got harder.

 

[haohmaru]

Georgiev for Koskinen + 2nd + 4th

I don't think Georgiev even gets you just a 2nd much less the other parts of this trade and, honestly, if that 2nd were on the table at any point over the past season and a half then he should've been gone already.

That being said, you're a playoff team and if you lose your injury prone lights out starter then you're fielding Kinkaid in the playoffs? Tough sell to the group that got you there.

 

[NYR Viper]

I don't think Georgiev even gets you just a 2nd much less the other parts of this trade and, honestly, if that 2nd were on the table at any point over the past season and a half then he should've been gone already.

That being said, you're a playoff team and if you lose your injury prone lights out starter then you're fielding Kinkaid in the playoffs? Tough sell to the group that got you there.

The guy has requested a trade. It’s adding in someone to help every night in Lehkonen.

Also, the value is partially Georgiev and partially taking on Koskinen