Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXII

[JimmyG89]

Gallant knows that Shesterkin is the #1 and George is the #2, but I always thought that if you have a back to back, playing your backup when the team is more rested would be the better play. Let Shesterkin come in fresh in the 2nd game and be able to carry the team if he needs to. The team can carry George if he sucks tonight.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

This is a 4 point game against a tough in division opponent, with Pitt about to be 1 point shy of you once they beat CBJ tonight, and you DONT start your Vezina candidate goalie who has absolutely been on fire? Inexcusable on all accounts. Just another example why the current head coach of the Rangers got left on the side of the road.

 

[DialUp]

It's a built in excuse.

Not playing your best player and team MVP is dumb. There's no spinning it.

I refuse to believe he is starting Geo so he has a built in excuse. That is just unprofessional.
- is his M.O. to start his 1st string in every second game of a back to back? Just what he does?
- is it to motivate the team to tighten up against a superior elite opponent?
- is it just Geo's turn on the calendar? So don't look into it too much?
- or is it just that there is a more likely chance we lose tonight regardless of who is in net, so start your brick wall against the shit team guaranteeing the 2 points and roll the dice against the juggernaut?

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Gallant knows that Shesterkin is the #1 and George is the #2, but I always thought that if you have a back to back, playing your backup when the team is more rested would be the better play. Let Shesterkin come in fresh in the 2nd game and be able to carry the team if he needs to. The team can carry George if he sucks tonight.

Shesterkin should be able to play the Coyotes after no rest and one arm tied behind his back. There is no excuse for this.

 

[duhmetreE]

I refuse to believe he is starting Geo so he has a built in excuse. That is just unprofessional.
- is his M.O. to start his 1st string in every second game of a back to back? Just what he does?
- is it to motivate the team to tighten up against a superior elite opponent?
- is it just Geo's turn on the calendar? So don't look into it too much?
- or is it just that there is a more likely chance we lose tonight regardless of who is in net, so start your brick wall against the shit team guaranteeing the 2 points and roll the dice against the juggernaut?

that's overthinking and over analyzing.

You put your best players on the ice against one of the top teams. You play your backup against Arizona.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

It just "feels" like Turk is ceding the game. Like "lets just make sure we beat Arizona to get the guaranteed points."
What other "top" team does this? Do other coaches do this shit?

No, a real NHL coach would not make the decisions that this one makes.

 

[DialUp]

that's overthinking and over analyzing.

You put your best players on the ice against one of the top teams. You play your backup against Arizona.

I am trying to figure out what Gallant is doing. So you are saying HE is overthinking and over analyzing? Because clearly he doesn't agree with your simple strategy.

 

[effen]

It really is. Those are two of our foremost pieces.



They should both be untouchable but for being swapped for other long term core pieces we need at different positions, ie center.

The rub here is you can get 100c on the dollar when you trade for a rental. A long term top 6 young C is likely to cost 150c to 250c on the dollar, which is a lot harder to stomach.

If you're willing to empty the clip on a 24-26 year old 50-60 point C you can probably do that, but at what cost? It's not gonna be Nils, Edstrom, and a 2nd. It's gonna be 4 "prime" pieces. You willing to trade that for a Bo Horvat?

 

[McRanger92]

Poo
Koskinen at full pop
For
Kravtsov
Gauthier
Georgiev

Im down to trade Georgie but I’d want a more reliable backup than Koskinen

 

[NYR Viper]

Team has been playing well, around 1-5 in the league all season after a coaching change and quite a bit of roster turnover, and yet we don’t have a NHL coach. Interesting

 

[duhmetreE]

I am trying to figure out what Gallant is doing. So you are saying HE is overthinking and over analyzing? Because clearly he doesn't agree with your simple strategy.

We are where we are because of Shesty. We're playing an offensive force.... going with Georgie is a loser mentality IMO.

Same reason he took Kakko off the Panarin line after they caught fire. Just flat out dumb moves.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

In before the Geo shuts out the Canes.

 

[Fitzy]

No, a real NHL coach would not make the decisions that this one makes.

This is a comical overreaction to a goalie choice in a regular season game.

 

[Thirty One]

This is a comical overreaction to a goalie choice in a regular season game.

I mean that's what we're here for.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

If we start Georgiev they may start Raanta.

Sometimes it irons out that way.

 

[duhmetreE]

In before the Geo shuts out the Canes.

which is entirely possible. It doesn't mean it's the right move.

I can play russian roulette and survive... it doesn't mean it was a good choice to play

 

[DialUp]

Gallant knows that Shesterkin is the #1 and George is the #2, but I always thought that if you have a back to back, playing your backup when the team is more rested would be the better play. Let Shesterkin come in fresh in the 2nd game and be able to carry the team if he needs to. The team can carry George if he sucks tonight.

That might be it, but lets see what he does next week. We have another one B2B, CBJ > Minny. Minny is very good, does he start Geo against CBJ and let Igor take the 2nd game against the better opp?

This is a 4 point game against a tough in division opponent, with Pitt about to be 1 point shy of you once they beat CBJ tonight, and you DONT start your Vezina candidate goalie who has absolutely been on fire?

Pitt can realistically (and should) win about another 6 in a row as they go through another run of the weak teams in the league. We need to keep our pace to hold them off.

 

[Avery16]

Wtf are we doing here? Why are we starting Geo vs a good team with Arizona the next night?

This is the type of galaxy brain thinking I despise, just like starting Geo on opening night.

Maybe Georgiev asked for it.

 

[Alluckks]

My bad on the “4”, but would you describe them as big name rentals?

Honestly, I don’t think they are a good example of a team succeeding by trading for big name rentals. (a) They weren’t rentals. (b) They aren’t “big names”.

Neither has ever scored 40 pts in the NHL. Weren’t they the classic example of a team adding depth and grit at the deadline?

I agree neither are top line rental players, but they paid top line rental player prices for both and Goodrow was used as a top 6 player last year, so it wasn't something to completely ignore either

 

[Tob]

This is going to be wild. 10 fresh ex-Rangers gunning it.

 

[DialUp]

This is a comical overreaction to a goalie choice in a regular season game.

What else is there to do? Want to draw up the 150th Hertl trade iteration, go at it. But right here, this is NEWS.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

This is a comical overreaction to a goalie choice in a regular season game.

It really isn’t. It’s a gigantic tactical error. And it’s not the first time he’s made it. When your back to back game is the Coyotes at home, you don’t hold your Vezina nominee goalie back for that. It’s dumb and again this is now the third time this season Gallant has misplayed his goalies.

 

[effen]

It just "feels" like Turk is ceding the game. Like "lets just make sure we beat Arizona to get the guaranteed points."
What other "top" team does this? Do other coaches do this shit?

Or Geo REALLY wants the start for ancillary reasons and this is a players coach who was a player himself showing confidence in his guys.

This is how you build trust in the room. I like it.

 

[Fitzy]

It really isn’t. It’s a gigantic tactical error. And it’s not the first time he’s made it. When your back to back game is the Coyotes at home, you don’t hold your Vezina nominee goalie back for that. It’s dumb and again this is now the third time this season Gallant has misplayed his goalies.

I think this may be a message to the team that they have to be able to go toe-to-toe with a powerhouse, a game after Shesterkin saved our asses in a game against the leafs. They can't rely on him in every big game. This used to be a habit- team would play a lot harder in front of Valiquette or Biron or Pavelec.

Maybe I'm wrong, but that seems like the most logical justification for this allocation of the BTB games.

 

[Thirty One]

which is entirely possible. It doesn't mean it's the right move.

I can play russian roulette and survive... it doesn't mean it was a good choice to play

If you play Russian Roulette and win, it was absolutely the right decision. Just don't lose.