Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXII

[TheBloodyNine]

I kinda thought they continued to get pretty clearly outplayed. I’ll take the win but I feel like it’s still more of the same.

What I liked about it is that they came back in that game instead of folding. The third period was pretty great.

 

[RGY]

Every night? No. Consistently? Yes. That's what this team has lacked so far - consistency against these big teams.

Lol they are 26-10-4. I know, I know, the majority of the 26 doesn’t count

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Calling it. Gauthier 4-3 goal

That was a 10000000 to 1 call.

 

[Claxton]

If Montreal wins 1st overall, Lafreniere for Suzuki

 

[duhmetreE]

Lundkvist, Jones and Kravtsov/Othmann/1st for Chychrun *maybe with a little retention?
Mid pick + Hajek for Lehkohnen


Kreider Zibs Laffy
Panarin Strome Chytil
Lehkohen Goodrow Kakko
Hunt Rooney Reaves

Lindgren Fox
Chychrun Trouba
KAM Schneider

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Lol they are 26-10-4. I know, I know, the majority of the 26 doesn’t count

10-8 against the better teams, which is not consistent. That's what I'm talking about. They need to consistently put forward that effort they did tonight against these teams.

My focus is only the playoffs, if they can't beat these teams soundly now they won't do it in May.

 

[Inferno]

10-8 against the better teams, which is not consistent. That's what I'm talking about. They need to consistently put forward that effort they did tonight against these teams.

My focus is only the playoffs, if they can't beat these teams soundly now they won't do it in May.

If you're consistently beating playoff teams soundly....you're running away with the president's trophy and are a runaway Stanley cup favorite.

 

[duhmetreE]

10-8 against the better teams, which is not consistent. That's what I'm talking about. They need to consistently put forward that effort they did tonight against these teams.

My focus is only the playoffs, if they can't beat these teams soundly now they won't do it in May.

that'd bring us to the ECF with the series tied 2-2. I'll take it.

 

[Synergy27]

Seriously, what do the other top teams look like against each other? What’s Carolina’s record against playoff teams? Colorado? I bet it’s pretty close to the Rangers record.

 

[QJL]

I’m just finding it hard to imagine most goalies allowing fewer goals than Igor does, head to head, in a 7 game series. We have the potential to go far solely because off his ridiculous consistent dominance.

 

[McRanger92]

The Rangers will be in a very enviable position at the trade deadline. The 8 Eastern playoff teams are already seemingly locked in and the Rangers find themselves with a boatload of cap space (that no other contender has) and a stockpile of NHL ready assets and all their high draft picks for the foreseeable future. The ability to take on full contracts for rentals is hugely advantageous to get the potential cost down and Drury has the capital to trade for any player he wants. I expect them to bring in 3 players (2 FWDs and 1 D). I see them looking for:

1. A top 6 forward, preferably a center, or a guy who has the ability to play C (Hertl, Pavelski, Giroux, JT Miler, Toffoli, Reilly Smith)
2. A bottom 6 forward to replace Gauthier/Hunt (Lehkonen, Chris Tierney, Jarnkrok, Donskoi, Eakin)
3. Another capable defenseman to play with Schneider (Giordano/Chiarot on the high end, C. Miller, Leddy, Etc. on the low end-we know theres always tons of guys who fit this mode available at the deadline)

Fill all 3 of these needs, and they can beat anyone in 7. I think we can allow ourselves to dream a little bit here.

 

[mike14]

Seriously, what do the other top teams look like against each other? What’s Carolina’s record against playoff teams? Colorado? I bet it’s pretty close to the Rangers record.

Using the below 5 teams against each other:

Carolina: 1-1-1
Colorado: 4-1-0
Florida: 6-2-1
TBL: 1-3-3
NYR: 3-3-0

Not a lot to go off. Florida's record becomes more impressive when you look at how many games they've played against better teams and their record

 

[bl02]

Using the below 5 teams against each other:

Carolina: 1-1-1
Colorado: 4-1-0
Florida: 6-2-1
TBL: 1-3-3
NYR: 3-3-0

Not a lot to go off. Florida's record becomes more impressive when you look at how many games they've played against better teams and their record

Funny because I take the team with the worst record considering they have the best goalie when the chips are down in a 7 game series. I would take vasy by a wide margin over any goalie except for Shesty

 

[bbny]

Using the below 5 teams against each other:

Carolina: 1-1-1
Colorado: 4-1-0
Florida: 6-2-1
TBL: 1-3-3
NYR: 3-3-0

Not a lot to go off. Florida's record becomes more impressive when you look at how many games they've played against better teams and their record

Florida is interesting because their home record is amazing (21-3), but they've also had 24 home games to only 15 away. Their away record is unimpressive (5-5-5). They just played their first in a west coast trip and got beat down by Calgary, so let's see how they do on the road outside the comfort of their own building. I'm very interested to see how they handle the rest of that trip.

NYR, on the other hand, have played 24 games on the road and 16 at home. They've also been through all 3 of their west coast trips already.

 

[jay from jersey]

Lundkvist, Jones and Kravtsov/Othmann/1st for Chychrun *maybe with a little retention?
Mid pick + Hajek for Lehkohnen


Kreider Zibs Laffy
Panarin Strome Chytil
Lehkohen Goodrow Kakko
Hunt Rooney Reaves

Lindgren Fox
Chychrun Trouba
KAM Schneider

Is hold onto Othmann. Especially reading for another D....
Kid had a big league shot

 

[McRanger92]

Lundkvist, Jones and Kravtsov/Othmann/1st for Chychrun *maybe with a little retention?
Mid pick + Hajek for Lehkohnen


Kreider Zibs Laffy
Panarin Strome Chytil
Lehkohen Goodrow Kakko
Hunt Rooney Reaves

Lindgren Fox
Chychrun Trouba
KAM Schneider

Man, Chychrun becomes more enticing with every passing game. He can be a core guy for this team for next 3 years with that contract. There’s probably a way to fit him & Strome if they can get Arizona to take Nemeth

 

[egelband]

Probably, but I really don't care to. I have no need to convince you to have the same opinion as me, just giving MINE.

Good fan boards advice in general.

 

[egelband]

If the Rangers are pursuing JT Miller as something longer than the term on his contract then it all makes A LOT of sense particularly of Vancouver retains 50% of his $ next year (effectively making Ryan Strome expendable and cap hell lessened by quite a bit).

Something like Lundqvist, Chytil, and a 1st or a 2022 2nd & 4th. Say what you want but the guy has great possession numbers, decent FO %, top 20 in points, etc... I wouldn't be against it and he would make the team immediately better.

An interesting thought. After next season the purse strings loosen a bit. I don’t think it’s anything to pursue but I’m not the rangers front office. Maybe they bring in JTM at 50% for this year and next, and re-sign him after 22-23 when in theory there should be some more cash available. Not my preference, but maybe that’s the FO thinking.

 

[egelband]

Man, Chychrun becomes more enticing with every passing game. He can be a core guy for this team for next 3 years with that contract. There’s probably a way to fit him & Strome if they can get Arizona to take Nemeth

I think the D is beautiful as-is, really. Replace Nemeth with Jones and we still have Lundkvist and Robertson in the wings. Where does Chrychrun fit in?

 

[Do you want ants]

I think the D is beautiful as-is, really. Replace Nemeth with Jones and we still have Lundkvist and Robertson in the wings. Where does Chrychrun fit in?

He’s a legit top pair D. Low end #1/high end #2. Put him with Trouba and move miller to the 3rd. Run him and Fox if we’re down a goal late. He’s solid defensively but you could run Lindgren-Trouba if protecting a lead. Way better than having Nemeth out there.

 

[haohmaru]

“It shows that we can hang with the big boys — that we are one of the big boys,” said Ryan Reaves. “We’ve got to keep beating the playoff teams, it’s something we’ve talked about. But I think we’re proving to the league, we’re proving to ourselves that we’re a contender.’’

“I think we know we can hang with the top teams,” Reaves said. “I think maybe some of the league doesn’t believe it, but let them keep [not] believing it. We’re gonna keep doing our thing and, I mean, the standings don’t lie.”

HFB lurker?

 

[Ola]

The Rangers will be in a very enviable position at the trade deadline. The 8 Eastern playoff teams are already seemingly locked in and the Rangers find themselves with a boatload of cap space (that no other contender has) and a stockpile of NHL ready assets and all their high draft picks for the foreseeable future. The ability to take on full contracts for rentals is hugely advantageous to get the potential cost down and Drury has the capital to trade for any player he wants. I expect them to bring in 3 players (2 FWDs and 1 D). I see them looking for:

1. A top 6 forward, preferably a center, or a guy who has the ability to play C (Hertl, Pavelski, Giroux, JT Miler, Toffoli, Reilly Smith)
2. A bottom 6 forward to replace Gauthier/Hunt (Lehkonen, Chris Tierney, Jarnkrok, Donskoi, Eakin)
3. Another capable defenseman to play with Schneider (Giordano/Chiarot on the high end, C. Miller, Leddy, Etc. on the low end-we know theres always tons of guys who fit this mode available at the deadline)

Fill all 3 of these needs, and they can beat anyone in 7. I think we can allow ourselves to dream a little bit here.

In theory, yes, but in practice, these types of moves will probably increases the odds — greatly — of this team losing in the first round of the POs.

That is, besides 2. Adding a little depth is hard to argue against. And maybe even 3. But 1? Have never seen it help before and it’s been tried so many times.

 

[Ola]

Does anyone seriously think we would become a better team in the POs 2022, if we added like Mark Schelife, Pat Kane and Drew Douhgty in March 2022?

Everything we ever have seen transpire in the history of the game indicates the opposite. Would we roll over teams just because we added them? Never. We would still get involved in close games, 0-0, 30 to 40 minutes in. 1-1. What cost you games like that? Trouba telegraphing a pass to the great Pat Kane just because he wants to get him the puck, Nemeth and Doughty miscommunicating as a result of not having chemistry, Scheliefe throwing a puck in front of the net that results in an odd man rush against due to lack of communication.

Sure, if we could keep those additions for 22/23 I would bet a ton on us winning the President Trophy and perhaps a cup in 23'. But big name deadline additions of rentals just don't make teams better. Players preferably needs 2-3 years together, not 3-4 weeks.

In addition, I also see everyone trying to remove one type of player and adding another. We obviously have a coach that is doing something right currently. Which player does he loves to throw out there? Rooney. He would have used Hunt. He would have used Blais a ton. He wants that mix.

The team "winning" deadline day has never, once, done well in the POs.

 

[SA16]

Does anyone seriously think we would become a better team in the POs 2022, if we added like Mark Schelife, Pat Kane and Drew Douhgty in March 2022?

Everything we ever have seen transpire in the history of the game indicates the opposite. Would we roll over teams just because we added them? Never. We would still get involved in close games, 0-0, 30 to 40 minutes in. 1-1. What cost you games like that? Trouba telegraphing a pass to the great Pat Kane just because he wants to get him the puck, Nemeth and Doughty miscommunicating as a result of not having chemistry, Scheliefe throwing a puck in front of the net that results in an odd man rush against due to lack of communication.

Sure, if we could keep those additions for 22/23 I would bet a ton on us winning the President Trophy and perhaps a cup in 23'. But big name deadline additions of rentals just don't make teams better. Players preferably needs 2-3 years together, not 3-4 weeks.

In addition, I also see everyone trying to remove one type of player and adding another. We obviously have a coach that is doing something right currently. Which player does he loves to throw out there? Rooney. He would have used Hunt. He would have used Blais a ton. He wants that mix.

The team "winning" deadline day has never, once, done well in the POs.

I don't think Mark Schelife or Drew Douhgty would help us.

 

[deathb4disco]

In theory, yes, but in practice, these types of moves will probably increases the odds — greatly — of this team losing in the first round of the POs.

That is, besides 2. Adding a little depth is hard to argue against. And maybe even 3. But 1? Have never seen it help before and it’s been tried so many times.

Agree, Much rather find a 3rd line center with size snarl and term. Than a 1st line or second line rental. We then move Chytil to wing full time and maybe add a bottom six winger as well as a bott pair D. I'm not against having the kids try to fill that slot until the deadline.
We add but don't sell the future and make more moves in the off season.