Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXI

[Vitto79]

Rangers are not going after Chtychrun
They are doing well W 2 kids currently on LD just let them develop

no way Lindgren is going anywhere he’s the new Bueakaboom

 

[RGY]

Lindgren
Miller
Chychrun

That would be some left side. I just dont know if its worth the cost to acquire to have Chychrun sitting on the 3rd pair. I feel like a rental Klingberg would be a better route that you are not locked into and could look into extending after the year.

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Jones-Klingberg

 

[pld459666]

I think you do this current group of players a great disservice if you do nothing to bolster the teams chances at a deep run.

There is a big grey area between going all in and doing nothing. All within reason of course.

We absolutely have to be in that grey area so long as the team continues to produce wins at the rate they are.

I'd be disappointed in the front office if they did nothing.

 

[Fireonk]

I think anyone throwing out potential Norris or Victor Hedman comparisons are really setting themselves up for disappointment. I have been very happy with his season overall this year and I have no interest in trading him. But, I have also seen nothing to suggest he is going to come close to reaching those heights. He has the size and speed but he hasn't shown any elite attributes outside of that.

Hedman is bigger, meaner, and has a lot more to his offensive game.

 

[NYR Viper]

I wouldn't make a move for Chychrun right now. If the team is dead set on bringing in a top-4 LD, I'd seriously consider Hampus Lindholm in the off-season. He'll be 28, is making ~$5.2m this season and is probably looking at either term with a lower cap hit or less term and a higher cap hit, not both. I doubt Anaheim has what it takes to keep him based on the rebuild they are going through.

If the Salary Cap weren't a thing, the guys I would want added this off-season would be Reilly Smith and Hampus Lindholm. They fit the needs of the team and the age profile to propel the team forward. Unfortunately, neither are really an option without serious changes to the roster. There's just not enough money

 

[McRanger92]

I think anyone throwing out potential Norris or Victor Hedman comparisons are really setting themselves up for disappointment. I have been very happy with his season overall this year and I have no interest in trading him. But, I have also seen nothing to suggest he is going to come close to reaching those heights. He has the size and speed but he hasn't shown any elite attributes outside of that.

Hedman is bigger, meaner, and has a lot more to his offensive game.

Miller has a long way to go to be Hedman, but even Hedman didnt really break out until year 4-5. Miller to me is developing in the perfect situation for his development. Hes playing top 4 minutes, behind Lindgren who gets the tougher matchups and with a veteran partner who complements his style perfectly. At his best i think hell be a core player for us.

 

[IronBloodedLion]

Chychrun is a helluva player, but he just doesn’t fill an immediate need. The defensive corp is pretty solid right now, with more help on the way in the coming years.

A young center should absolutely be what we go for if we’re going to give up premium assets. I keep looking at LA. They’re loaded with Center prospects and not enough space for all of them. I also think Right Wing is going to be needed going forward if they can’t repair the relationship with Kravstov.

 

[NYR Viper]

I think you do this current group of players a great disservice if you do nothing to bolster the teams chances at a deep run.

There is a big grey area between going all in and doing nothing. All within reason of course.

We absolutely have to be in that grey area so long as the team continues to produce wins at the rate they are.

I'd be disappointed in the front office if they did nothing.

Finding a 3rd line winger should be the #1 priority for this team. Honestly, another guy who would fit there is Dustin Brown, if LA traded him.

Panaron-Strome-Chytil (PLEASE!!!!)
Kreider-Zibanejad-Kaako
Lafreniere-Goodrow-Brown
Hunt-Rooney-Reaves

I am not in favor of trading 1st's or 2nd or high end prospects for a rental. Not this year. 3rd's, 4th's, 5th's and some middle tier prospects or young players like Gauthier, Hajek, Reunanen, Gettinger, Skinner, Khoderenko, Richards, sure. I know that will mean no Pavelski, which is fine.

 

[Fireonk]

Miller has a long way to go to be Hedman, but even Hedman didnt really break out until year 4-5. Miller to me is developing in the perfect situation for his development. Hes playing top 4 minutes, behind Lindgren who gets the tougher matchups and with a veteran partner who complements his style perfectly. At his best i think hell be a core player for us.

Right, I want to be clear, I have no interest in trading Miller. I am very happy with his season so far and I think he's only going to continue to get better.

But, Hedman was already in his 4th season playing in the NHL at Miller's age now(split with the KHL) and putting up just under half a point per game. The year after he scored 55 in 75. And he was, continues to be, and likely always will play a much heavier game than Miller.

 

[Claxton]

Crouse from Arizona would be a nice get as well. An upgrade on Gauthier and Hunt combined.

 

[NYR Viper]

How much more money per season will Hampus Lindholm get as a UFA as compared to what Chychrun is making ($4.6m)? I could see Lindholm being one of those guys who settles in on a long term deal, say 7 years, at around $5-5.5m.

 

[Claxton]

How much more money per season will Hampus Lindholm get as a UFA as compared to what Chychrun is making ($4.6m)? I could see Lindholm being one of those guys who settles in on a long term deal, say 7 years, at around $5-5.5m.

Sounds about right. Maybe Krug/Faulk/Parayko as a comparable, so 7 years 5.5-6..5 mil

 

[Synergy27]

Miller has a long way to go to be Hedman, but even Hedman didnt really break out until year 4-5. Miller to me is developing in the perfect situation for his development. Hes playing top 4 minutes, behind Lindgren who gets the tougher matchups and with a veteran partner who complements his style perfectly. At his best i think hell be a core player for us.

Yep. He has a long way to go, but he also has plenty of time to get there.

Is it likely that he reaches this ceiling? Not at all. Is it within the range of outcomes? Absolutely given some of the flashes we’ve seen.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

I think it would be a huge mistake to trade Miller for anything short of in a package for a long-haul, transformative, cost controlled type of acquisition ideally at C.

I could see Miller developing for a long time. He could easily still be improving through his early 30s. But that said the NYR are the exact opposite of patient so in reality, all bets are off. Could see this as the NYI version of trading Chara.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

I think anyone throwing out potential Norris or Victor Hedman comparisons are really setting themselves up for disappointment. I have been very happy with his season overall this year and I have no interest in trading him. But, I have also seen nothing to suggest he is going to come close to reaching those heights. He has the size and speed but he hasn't shown any elite attributes outside of that.

Hedman is bigger, meaner, and has a lot more to his offensive game.

Miller's first stretch of games last season, IMO he showed this...thinking of games vs Buffalo and Pitt in late January last year. IMO he has showed the high-level ability then but has proven to be inconsistent.

 

[Fitzy]

I give it roughly a 0% chance Miller ever comes in the top 5 in Norris voting let alone wins one.

Fun fact, but not totally relevant, Dan Girardi finished 6th in Norris voting in 2012, which is higher than McDonagh ever finished.

Staal finished 16th once. This made Girardi the highest NYR Norris finisher since the year 2000 when Leetch was 5th, up until Fox won it last season. Poor Rozsival never even made the list.

I say this I guess because that's a very high bar to set for Miller.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Miller's first stretch of games last season, IMO he showed this...thinking of games vs Buffalo and Pitt in late January last year. IMO he has showed the high-level ability then but has proven to be inconsistent.

Miller is 21 years old. He's absolutely allowed to be inconsistent. He flashes high end skill, he's 6'5 and he can skate really well. If he picks up some of trouba's nastiness, and gets more fluid playing defense, he might be the best pick from the '19 draft.

 

[tlk]

Also lets not forget that Miller was ahead of schedule by at least a year, judging by the preseason projections. A slump/inconsistency was almost expected. Where he goes from here is another question.

 

[BobMarleyNYR]

I think anyone throwing out potential Norris or Victor Hedman comparisons are really setting themselves up for disappointment. I have been very happy with his season overall this year and I have no interest in trading him. But, I have also seen nothing to suggest he is going to come close to reaching those heights. He has the size and speed but he hasn't shown any elite attributes outside of that.

Hedman is bigger, meaner, and has a lot more to his offensive game.

Hedman? Given him some time, he'll be so good come like 2013.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Rangers are not going after Chtychrun
They are doing well W 2 kids currently on LD just let them develop

no way Lindgren is going anywhere he’s the new Bueakaboom

Source?

And I love Lindgren, but he is nothing like Jeff Beukeboom.

 

[Avery16]

THE ATHLETIC: Arthur Staple looked at possible rental defense options for the New York Rangers. The most expensive would be the Canadien’s Ben Chiarot but Staple is skeptical that their newly install hockey ops VP Jeff Gorton would be interested in helping the club that spectacularly dumped him last May.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: He might if they offered up a first-round pick for Chiarot, which some pundits believe is the going rate for a blueliner of his caliber.
Staple also mused about the Chicago Blackhawks’ Calvin de Haan, the Seattle Kraken’s Mark Giordano, and the Blue Jacket’s Vladislav Gavrikov.

Ten thoughts on two impressive Rangers wins

none of these names are doing it for me.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Miller is 21 years old. He's absolutely allowed to be inconsistent. He flashes high end skill, he's 6'5 and he can skate really well. If he picks up some of trouba's nastiness, and gets more fluid playing defense, he might be the best pick from the '19 draft.

I completely agree, thought it went without saying given my previous post. The inconsistency is to be expected and it is IMO more than worth holding out hope that he can iron out the wrinkles here as he matures, because we have seen flashes of the upside and it is high.

 

[IDvsEGO]

I completely agree, thought it went without saying given my previous post. The inconsistency is to be expected and it is IMO more than worth holding out hope that he can iron out the wrinkles here as he matures, because we have seen flashes of the upside and it is high.

I’m even ok with just this level of talent, although that would be an overall disappointment, he’s still a legit nhl defenseman who’s likely good for 20 pts a year and above average defense.
But I’d like it if he could be a top pair guy.

 

[CupSeeker]

I think you do this current group of players a great disservice if you do nothing to bolster the teams chances at a deep run.

There is a big grey area between going all in and doing nothing. All within reason of course.

We absolutely have to be in that grey area so long as the team continues to produce wins at the rate they are.

I'd be disappointed in the front office if they did nothing.

On the other hand, going out and getting Klingberg to replace Lundqvist, or Jones for a playoff run, deprives those players of invaluable experience they will need in the future when we are a more legitimate contender. Let's be real, until KK and Laf are real threats, we are pretenders. We should go out and grab a forward who can bolster the lineup and not put any of our key pieces on the bench. The D is set once we figure out that Nemeth doesn't belong.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Ten thoughts on two impressive Rangers wins

none of these names are doing it for me.

I tend to agree. Certainly have no interest in dealing a first in a deal for Chiarot.