Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XXXI
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I'm not going to hold anyone's performance on a Tortorella team against them
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
Twenty f*ckin years
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Bobrovsky seems like the most obvious future bad contract of all time
Like I could see it being catastrophically bad if it’s 6-7 years.
Like I could see it being catastrophically bad if it’s 6-7 years.
Yup.
Classic example of a player who’s about to get PAID based on what he’s produced versus what he’ll likely produce.
Good Intentions
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Honestly, if i read another shitstain word about another vet - not #30 - in net, I'm going to lose it.
Henrik Lundqvist is the goaltender, and get on your knees for it.
If you're projecting Bobrovsky in goal, reality is not for you. Find another team to root for.
Rangers will absolutely be in on Panarin and after the dust settles with the offseason the Rangers will look to extend Kreider.
EdJovanovski
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no one ever said that you get the top pick and then sit back and be a moron with the rest of your team. they got the hardest piece to find and then failed miserable at everything else. that is an argument against idiot gms not against the top pick
TheBloodyNine
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Why do anti-tank people always use that as an argument? Can you name some method that IS a sure thing?
TheBloodyNine
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You could certainly say that everything the Rangers have ever done up to this point in their history isn't "a sure thing" FOR SURE.
Yeah its pretty dumb.
Edmonton isn't bad because they tanked, they're bad because they haven't drafted well outside of picks that a goldfish could make, made the stupid Hall trade and handed out some awful UFA contracts.
OTOH, When was the last time a team won anything building around a UFA?
Chaels Arms
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I think the other dirty little secret behind Edmonton and Buffalo is that it's just hard getting people to want to play there. If McDavid was drafted by LA or SJ or NYR you better believe they would have found some guys to play with him...
mti79
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To me it's simple. Players like Artemi Panarin do not become available every day/every year in Free Agency. You absolutely have to check in with their camp and find out the price point. If it makes sense to give him a 5-7 year contract, then you do it. If the price is what you deem to be too much, you don't. Personally, I would love to add Panarin to this team because he is a bonafide goal scorer and we really don't have a guy like that. Kreider and Zibby are good scorers but they aren't "the guy" and Panarin could be. If we get a high pick and get Hughes or Kakko that's even better because they will be another player on an ELC that we don't have to pay right away.
Hopefully, as the kids progress and are on cheap contracts, the overpriced guys will be moving on. We have prospects and we're trying to see which kids are keepers and ready for the NHL, which need more seasoning and which to cut bait on.
I would absolutely look to add Panarin and I would also check in on Erik Karlsson. Again, players of his caliber are not readily available, especially without having to give up a ton in assets.
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Not a pretty team, but there are guys like Kravstov, Nieves, Keane, Brickley, Strome, Pionk, Brendan Smith, Claesson, Meskanen, Lindgren and whatever other free agents we can find.
Hopefully, as the kids progress and are on cheap contracts, the overpriced guys will be moving on. We have prospects and we're trying to see which kids are keepers and ready for the NHL, which need more seasoning and which to cut bait on.
I would absolutely look to add Panarin and I would also check in on Erik Karlsson. Again, players of his caliber are not readily available, especially without having to give up a ton in assets.
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Not a pretty team, but there are guys like Kravstov, Nieves, Keane, Brickley, Strome, Pionk, Brendan Smith, Claesson, Meskanen, Lindgren and whatever other free agents we can find.
pld459666
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I think signing Panarin is a no brainer.
An elite level player with limited professional miles on his legs? I don't see him slowing down until years 6/7 on a long term contract assuming he doesn't get hurt before that.
I also believe that a big part of the asset acquisition binge we have been on is to eventually make a move for another elite level player, probably on D.
An elite level player with limited professional miles on his legs? I don't see him slowing down until years 6/7 on a long term contract assuming he doesn't get hurt before that.
I also believe that a big part of the asset acquisition binge we have been on is to eventually make a move for another elite level player, probably on D.
*Looks at what was given up in trades for Karlsson and Panarin*
Yeah, I'm gonna say that you're off on this one.
TheBloodyNine
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John Tavares was a UFA last summer.
Erik Karlsson will probably be one this summer.
Taylor Hall will probably be one next summer.
These players do become available, but they are still UFA bombs waiting to happen.
Erik Karlsson will probably be one this summer.
Taylor Hall will probably be one next summer.
These players do become available, but they are still UFA bombs waiting to happen.
We shall see. At the very least I see Kreider staying.
People speak in such absolutes here, almost as if it has already happened. Kreider will be traded. Rangers wont sign Panarin. Rangers must tank. Tanking works. Etc.
Great those teams got McDavid/Eichel and then had “idiot GMs” ruin everything. Well why cant a brilliant GM and staff produce a talented team without the top overall pick? With maybe the #4OA. In addition to the #7OA and the #9OA that have already been drafted. How do we know we dont have a great Front Office group? A lot of our top young prospects have done enough to get a look in the NHL and certainly havent fallen on their face.
Like I said, we will see what happens. I am sure there will be some crying going on if Panarin signs here and when Kreider stays. Because how terrible it is to insulate all this young blood you have accumulated with established NHL veteran talent.
My God...
First off if you really believe Jeff Gorton is not going to ice a competitive team next season then I dont know what to tell you. He will be in on Panarin. He will make a decision on Kreider. They will not tank on purpose. If they lose it will happen organically as it has this season.
Ive been force fed that tanking is the way to go but it hasnt worked for some teams, NO MATTER WHAT THE OTHER FACTORS WERE. Call it poor drafting, but lets not act like those teams went way off the board with their other draft picks OR that those same drafted players were not on other teams boards. Things happen. You need to surround the top draft pick (that you hope you get via a LOTTERY system) with other picks and players. Banking so much on getting this top pick just is not the only way. It isnt.
And it doesnt make any of us who take this stance as incompetent or poison for the rebuild, as if we are against it. We are considering alternative paths.
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