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If we acquire a LD and still have to play Nemeth on the 3rd pair, what's the f***ing point?
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If we acquire a LD and still have to play Nemeth on the 3rd pair, what's the f***ing point?
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The Buchnevich trade was hideous and the Blais injury makes it look worse (not his or the Rangers fault).
If you wanted Blais that bad, you don't give up a top 6 forward to get him. I obviously don't know what the offers were, but of that was the best, I'd rather have kept him; it would've been manageable cap wise. With Lafreniere's and Kakko's development having been stalled somewhat (though Kappo has played better recently), the team could've used him. Move him at the deadline if necessary; teams are always looking for top 6 help.
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Rangers are not trading Lindgren until summer 2024 at earliest when he's an RFA. If he's durable they may keep him here long term for somewhere in the $5 million plus range.
There's no need for Chychrun right now. If this was prime time and the team was a legit contender, yes it's something you do for the third pair for two playoff runs. He has a good cap hit but the money is needed in other areas and trading Lindgren to acquire Chychrun is robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Georgiev has no value because of his qualifier. Finish the year and let him walk. Sign Charlie Lindgren as a UFA.
This year is not about beefing up to the max. It's minor non-material upgrades to give them a shot at winning a round or two. Anything more is gravy.
There's no need for Chychrun right now. If this was prime time and the team was a legit contender, yes it's something you do for the third pair for two playoff runs. He has a good cap hit but the money is needed in other areas and trading Lindgren to acquire Chychrun is robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Georgiev has no value because of his qualifier. Finish the year and let him walk. Sign Charlie Lindgren as a UFA.
This year is not about beefing up to the max. It's minor non-material upgrades to give them a shot at winning a round or two. Anything more is gravy.
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I'm all for banning "you have to give to get" from this board. Drives me crazy. It's up there with "we shall see" or "eh whddaya gonna do?" for the three worst "Nu Yawk" sports fan cliches.
It’s a tough call. We really needed what Blais brings to the team, now and in the future.
He was also only making 1.5 and is still an RFA with control next season. At least he’s not getting a huge raise because of this injury.
Not only that, Blais isn’t a run of the mill bottom sixer. He has enough talent to move up and down the line up as well. That’s likely why he was specifically targeted.
Look what Tampa had to pay to Get Goodrow and Coleman for 2 years??
I def wouldn’t want to give up a first rd pick for Blais or a Blais type player.
Like I said, we all would have liked a little more for Buch, but it’s not like STL is dying to trade us Blais or a player like him for a 3rd rd pick and a prospect like Renunnen....
I honestly don’t know who can be other comps. But you saw what guys like Tanev, Goodrow, Coleman, Hyman etc all signed for, and what they were traded for when they were cost controlled.
It’s not like the Rangers were the only team in the league looking for guys that bring physicality but can also play Hockey.
I like Hunt a lot, and I think he was a great add by Drury at a great price, but he’s nowhere near the hitter, or better overall hockey player then Blais. He also a smaller guy doesn't have the prior experience in the playoffs Sammy does.
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We could trade Nemeth and then use Hajek there thenIf we acquire a LD and still have to play Nemeth on the 3rd pair, what's the f***ing point?
The point would also just be getting even better, and that it is a fantasy to even acquire Chychrun
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By the way, can you imagine if we played our games against Ottawa, The Piles and The Hab nots? We’d probably be 6 points higher in the standings! All in for Patty Kane!!!!
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so honest thoughts on the Strome situation? Do you think he's going to end up getting extended as our 2C for the foreseeable future? Also, any move before the deadline where we trade a defensive prospect for a forward? And does Georgiev eventually get moved?
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Honestly I’d imagine he is extended if he takes a “team friendly” contract. I think we may still trade prospects for a forward, in particular a young center with 2C potential because Strome can be moved to wing if the player pans out. I’d be surprised if Georgie is a NYR beyond this season.
that’s definitely part of it. We’ve all seen Buchs ability to play hot, even do most of the heavy lifting on a line for 1/4 almost half a season. He was certainly the best player when Zibby wasn’t playing well for a time.
But yet the fact remains, Buch has never had a 65-70pt season over an 82 game stretch plus playoffs.
His only years his numbers have equated as such were shortened seasons with projections.
I’m sure someone will come on and say, he has 70 pts in his last 85 games or whatever it is. But those 85 games are spread out over a 2 season timeline with no playoff hockey sandwiched in between. He has been known to be held off the score sheet for long periods of time, similar to kreider.
It was likely another factor in NYR not wanting to commit 6 mill long term to him, and id wager it also had an effect on his trade value as well.
Again, not saying we don’t miss Buch or he wasn’t good for us 5v5 and on the Pk.
What I don’t believe is that he’s a consistent 70pt + RW.
Yes the Russian line in St. Louis has some nice chemistry together, and O’Reillys line is drawing the tougher D match ups away from them.
But Until Buch actually does it in an 82 game clip those who keep calling him a PPG fwd etc are wrong imo.
Similar to how sabres fans were projecting Eichel to be a 90+ point center. Projections are nice, but unless it happens they are just projections.
Having said all that, Buch is a solid RW that gives you good 2-way 5v5 play and plays well ok the PK. Imo, if he adds 55-60 pts a year, maybe 1-2 seasons where he flirts with 70 or above, STL def got their money’s worth.
This coming from a guy who wished they had enough room to keep him beyond this season.
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The league will have to do away with the COVID testing thing sooner or later. It's 5 times higher positive rate this year compared to last year when players eventually built up immunity by playoffs. Imagine 6 top 9 players out with no symptoms during the playoffs.
They should order some Chinese tests form AliExpress.
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It is going to be incredible if they have to completely redo the schedule and divisions in season to recreate the Canadian division bc the border issues arent going to allow them to avoid testing or to have players come back faster.
The NFL is driving the train to moving on from covid in the sports world, NBA is following. MLB will be doing the same whenever they start playing again. NHL will be delayed simply bc of the role the border plays in the NHL
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