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2026 with lottery protection that could push it to 2028
Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXX
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2028 is supposed to be a great draft. There's a 10 year old in Newfoundland who has been beating up on his peers.
leetch99
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Too early to call a winner and loser just yet . I would say wait for at least 2 playoff years and then decide . Regular season stats means diddly squat for the results of this deal to be finalized . This deal should be measured via the long game ...not the short one. It is not like a coin toss.
leetch99
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What is nonsense is the thinking that an anonymous poster[maybe an ex MSG employee ?] albeit vetted by more anonymous people has news on a deal that was better then one by our current GM . LOL...I think that is kind of funny too be honest . I also don't think we are getting killed either....but time will tell . I'm willing to give it a couple of playoff seasons .
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Hi my HF Rangers friends.
Without any games prior, I’m taking this opportunity to wish you and your families a safe, healthy and happy holiday season. This seemed like the most active Thread to catch as many of you as possible. May we see a better year in 2022.
Without any games prior, I’m taking this opportunity to wish you and your families a safe, healthy and happy holiday season. This seemed like the most active Thread to catch as many of you as possible. May we see a better year in 2022.
Sorry I love edge but the kings did not offer that or we would have taken it. The kings had the 8th overall pick in 2021. And frankly I don’t recall him saying that anywhere to his credit
Amazing Kreiderman
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He said "1st + Kupari". Not necessarily the 1st rounder in 2021. The pick we got from STL was a 2022 pick for instance. If that package was offered, it would have been a future 1st, possibly lottery protected.
where do you have the money to sign buchnevich long term? Seriously. Where is it? You have to pay kakko you have to pay Strome or bring in another center. You have to pay Fox mika there money. Miller soon Laf in a year. Where is it?
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I would have liked to see the math on trading one of Kakko or (preferably) Lafreniere to Buffalo as a headliner for Eichel. Not signing Goodrow or Nemeth. Signing vet minimum goalie, Danault and Buchnevich, Trading Georgiev, Zibanejad and Strome. And seeing how that calculus looked. Reaves and Hunt deals still happen.
Again Buchnevich was probably always going for cap so if we weren’t signing him what if you do the hypothetical Kupari trade from LA, and you spin a pick to STL for Blais to keep Drury happy.
Is the team better? Maybe? But I don’t know how far away from this being an off-season scenario would have been
leetch99
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New coach ...new guys and 7 losses . Let it cook fellows as we are from a done product . I understand we all are not going to agree on GM moves and coach decisions and such ....and that is OK . We all want what we think is best for our team....and I am sure Drury and Gallant feel the same way .
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Sure. That’s not my point though. Just talking about what the butterfly effect could have been.
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Trading Buchnevich was the right call. Whether they do that in the 2021 off season or at the 2022 deadline was the discussion. None of those players you mention had expiring contracts in 2021 so they could have (and in my opinion should have) gone with the Hayes approach.
And when Drury decides to trade Buchenvich the moment the market opens up (July 23rd), the return better be worth it otherwise it looks like a rushed decision. And Blais+2nd is not a good return.
Trading Pavel Buchnevich: On board with that
Acquiring Sammy Blais: Good move, for sure
Just not paired together. You want Blais? Trade a prospect or a pick for him. But to get a bottom-6 winger and a 2nd rounder for a guy who had 75 points in his last 82 games is a garbage return.
Buchnevich didn't fit long term here clearly. The market for a player like Buch sucked last off season. Couple that with the fact that many thought last year was Buch's peak and you get the return that we got.
Say we hold onto him this year, you think he has more value right now than he did last year with an expiring contract? People around here are so short sighted.
When he inevitably walked for nothing you would be on your hands and knees for a Blais + 2nd package.
Say we hold onto him this year, you think he has more value right now than he did last year with an expiring contract? People around here are so short sighted.
When he inevitably walked for nothing you would be on your hands and knees for a Blais + 2nd package.
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The fear for me is we're going to pay a similar price for a lesser player on an expiring contract to fill the hole he's left.
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I heard they wanted the Lakers pick, but LA only was willing to give the Clippers pick
Harbour Dog
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Can verify. He's my sister-in-law's sister's kid. Got a real mean streak too; start stockpiling picks.
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the kings pick likely was top 10 protected or something and it was deferred til next season. But your right, there were def conditions on it as edge suggested...
Who knows when it was offered or if/when there were other parts attached.
Buch and kreider have been on the block for the better part of 2-3 seasons.
Each guy was supposed to be dealt prior.
Notable teams were EDM, COL, DAL, and I’m sure there were more discussions that went the distance that just never got done for whatever reason......
It happens all the time
But Kupari + 1st ( even with conditions) is a better return then Reinhart returned as well....
I’m sure Adams would have also taken the best deal possible as well....
If anything is to be learned from the Buchnevich situation, its that we must make better calls on which players should be offered a bridge deal and which players that should be signed to long term deals. Jeff Gorton signed a ton of players to bridge-deals, that with the benefit of hindsight, were terrible options compared to the value they would have provided if they had been long term deals.
He signed players to bridge deals because our cap situation was an absolute nightmare. There was no room for longer term deals. Its great if you want to talk about "locking guys up long term" but they want to get paid, and we're gonna have to do it again with laf/kakko and miller.
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I understand that, the main board also thought buch was overrated while he was here, and also thinks blais is an ahler. I don't much care what the main board says as maybe 2% of it isn't dribble
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Absolutely. But that's not what I was commenting on. Either way, complaints about the injury should squarely be at slewfoot subban
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This place is worse than a jilted lover.
And more pathetic as well.
Let it go
And more pathetic as well.
Let it go
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