Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXX

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Kakko I could see 5 years at 6 per year, or 3 years at 4 per year. He reaches UFA status in 4 seasons.

I bet Strome's camp is asking for something well too high like 6 years 7 per year as their starting ask. I wonder if we see another Kreider scenario with an extension the day of the TDL.
 
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Kakko I could see 5 years at 6 per year, or 3 years at 4 per year. He reaches UFA status in 4 seasons.

I bet Strome's camp is asking for something well too high like 6 years 7 per year as their starting ask. I wonder if we see another Kreider scenario with an extension the day of the TDL.

If 6 years/7 mil per is THE starting ask, then yeah, even I'd be more than fine letting him walk lol
 
If 6 years/7 mil per is THE starting ask, then yeah, even I'd be more than fine letting him walk lol
I'd just guess that based on his point totals, being liked in the locker room, and the current success of the team, that that is the number that his agent pitched from their end.

I think if he re-signs the cap hit number won't come in near that. But we could see 6 years to keep the cap number down. I'd guess the Rangers first offered somewhere around 4 years, 5.5 per year.

6 years, 5.33 per year with no limitations on trades/movement the final 3 years is something I think could be seen and be alright with. Either choose to frontload it to make it easier to trade to a cap floor team, or make the pay structure so that it is a favorable buyout by year 5.
 
The Rangers have kind of come out of nowhere. They have miles and miles to go. They haven’t yet played the Lightning. They haven’t yet played the ‘Canes. They have played the Panthers once, and beat them at the Garden, but were mauled by Florida to such an extent that nearly a week of soul-searching followed. They haven’t played the Caps again since an opening-night flop. We don’t quite know yet, do we, even as they just keep winning?

Disagree in that take from Larry. This is what I was expecting, to a certain extent. I've thought we had one of the most talented rosters in the league and we severely under performed under Quinn.

I didn't expect 17-4-3 but I expected to be 'close to the top', as we currently stand 'at the top'.

This is a good team that is too talented to miss the playoffs. It underachieved last year, but may be overachieving right now. The underlying numbers say they definitely were not playing all that well early. They've gotten better, but still are winning at what seems like an unsustainable clip for how well they are really playing, which is far from flawless, perfect, win every game hockey. Too many players are still playing poorly or underachieving (Mika/Laf, plus Kakko still can't buy points often enough), too many other players are super hot with histories of cooling off, or of non production (Strome/Kreider/Trouba in the former category, Rooney/Hunt in the latter).

They haven't played all cup cakes, but I don't trust this team with the eye test or the underlying numbers to say that it is in the elite tier yet.

This is a good team that is currently on fire.
 
Chytil either needs to evolve or he needs to be exchanged for a player that fits that role on this lineup and compliments the weaknesses of zib and strome.
 
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The rebuild is over. The have an Adams, Norris & Vezina candidates on this team. They are a playoff team with this core. Yes it’s kind a weird but it kind of makes sense too. Yes the contract has to be under control, but as long as Strome can stick with Panarin and you can chuck a minimum contract guy with them, it’s. Not a bad thing. That’s what they are betting on and there is more evidence that it works than it doesn’t.
I’ll withhold my opinion regarding playoff team until they play against the stifling defensive teams. But this coach has been a blessing thus far.
 
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Chytil either needs to evolve or he needs to be exchanged for a player that fits that role on this lineup and compliments the weaknesses of zib and strome.
This is the move that they need to make. Sooner than later
 
Quit talking sensible.
Honestly, they would need a whole new third line if they want to make some noise in these playoffs. The Panarin line or our current third line will get matched against in the playoffs and it won't look pretty no matter how much Chytil turns it around.
 
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Completely agree (and I even posted something similar yesterday about Strome's game when the season isn't wide open).

There are so many posters saying "...the Strome haters"

I don't think anyone here hates Strome... but as you pointed out... Mika & his game are locked in. Resigning Strome w a no move clause just isn't feasible. Trouba & Kreider have clauses and Kreider especially isn't playing his entire career here to suddenly leave when we're on the rise.
If Strome gets resigned without any clauses, that could be a win by itself.
 
Would people be open to:

Chytil, Lundkvist, Pajuniemi, 2nd round pick

for

Kane @ 50% retained


Maybe thats not enough, but Kane is no spring chicken and is a free agent after next season. Kane has played with Panarin before. As much as we want a bonafide 2C, maybe this is a better route keeping Strome at 2C between them for a cup run.

Goodrow could slide to 3C. Hunt back to the 4th line.
 
Kakko I could see 5 years at 6 per year, or 3 years at 4 per year. He reaches UFA status in 4 seasons.

I bet Strome's camp is asking for something well too high like 6 years 7 per year as their starting ask. I wonder if we see another Kreider scenario with an extension the day of the TDL.
If he's getting $6M it better be for 7 or 8 years.

I see the team giving him 3x3 like Lindgren
 
This is the move that they need to make. Sooner than later
If vancover will deal horvat that's a move to looking into. Van retaining 50 percent on horvat for chytil. If chytil isn't going to be a top 6 center than he is going to move eventually to open room for other players coming up. Barron is going to get the year in the ahl, and next year probably comes in as a bottom 6 wing. Horvat holds the last center slot for his contract year and as Barron becomes more comfortable than possibly he takes the 3c role in 2023 when horvat's deal expires. We have the depth to make such a move that respects our cap situation and also fits the needs and goals of this team. Right now this is a good team that wins. We need to shore up the teams weaknesses to give them a chance to really do something this spring
 
If vancover will deal horvat that's a move to looking into. Van retaining 50 percent on horvat for chytil. If chytil isn't going to be a top 6 center than he is going to move eventually to open room for other players coming up. Barron is going to get the year in the ahl, and next year probably comes in as a bottom 6 wing. Horvat holds the last center slot for his contract year and as Barron becomes more comfortable than possibly he takes the 3c role in 2023 when horvat's deal expires. We have the depth to make such a move that respects our cap situation and also fits the needs and goals of this team. Right now this is a good team that wins. We need to shore up the teams weaknesses to give them a chance to really do something this spring

I think your right about this one buddy.
I have a good feeling Gallant and Drury have a really good working relationship. If Gallant sees a hole on the roster, Drury is certainly taking his input into account.
I think they both like what they see atm. Early, we were playing ugly, but still winning. As of late this team has really formed their identity.
I have no doubt that if he can make things work Salary wise, Drury is going to go big game hunting before or at the TDL.
I have no clue how he’ll fit the contract, whether it be the trading team, or a 3rd team eating Salary. But bet your ass, if he can make it happen, he will.
Of the main serious upgrade pieces we’ve talked about, Lindholm/Larkin/Horvat/PLD/Pavelski etc, the only one with a realistic chance of being traded before the end of the season is Horvat.
He has a manageable cap hit for this year and next until we can make some moves and free up some salary.
Adding Horvat and shifting strome to RW would be a tremendous upgrade for this team. ( presumably chytil is part of the package going back, so if they make that move they have to call up Barron or lean on Goodrow for 3C)
If it were me, I’d try Barron first.
Drury is no fool, he’s not going to drastically overpay, and he’s not going to make an addition if he thinks we would have any trouble resigning Kakko especially, but mostly all our guys.
If he can’t make it work with Van, I see him just adding a versatile tweener type player like Donskoi or Lehkonen on the cheap.
Reilly Smith has been Vegas’s best fwd for most of the year. I really doubt they deal him anywhere. They self rent him at worst and play the injury cap game with Eichel to fit him, or they’ll move someone else instead. I know him and Gallant have history and he would be a solid add for the rest of this season, but I just don’t see him being dealt at all with the way he’s playing.
They aren’t far out of the playoff picture, it would be like us trading Strome, that’s the level of importance he carries for the knights.
I have faith in Drury to make this team better without crippling our farm or screwing up things for kakko etc, guys we have to sign.
Silver lining at least for Blais injury means he’s probably not likely to get a big RFA raise.
Gauthier ( money/cap/opportunity elsewhere)
Nemeth ( traded mostly for cap reasons)
Rooney( pricing himself out, will want more cap and term then Drury willing to pay)

could all realistically not be rangers by the end of the season, along with strome.
I’m not sure how to navigate everything, but I have no doubts Drury would love to add a young 26 year impact center that possess almost every trait we are lacking at the position. Oh yea, he can score too, and win face offs.
The only other player that might be made available if the jets suck is Andrew Copp.
Good player, good motor, can play all 3 fwd spots. Sometimes he looks like stone hands, but overall real good player and a B option if he misses on Horvat.
I’d rather not go for him though. He’s going to get paid this offseason. Frankly, prob more then he deserves. If they do trade for him, it will be strictly as a playoff rental, because I don’t see the point in shelling out a new deal for him when we’ve got so many of our guys coming up in the next 2 seasons.
But TBH, those are the only 2 guys that will be potentially available this season by the TDL that have enough skill/Heart to make this team better.
I have no idea which direction Drury/Gallant are currently leaning. Obviously they want to Better the team if possible, but I’m really not too concerned with either wanting to mortgage the future, or deal a lot of prospects/ young players it took us years of sucking to finally have on our team and in the farm system.
 
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Chytil + to Montreal for Dvorak.

Solves the faceoff issue and only adds just over $2 million in salary. They'd still have enough room for another move.
 
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