My guess is that if a team comes to the Rangers with a trade that includes a top-10 pick this year then Kreider would be gone. Additionally, if they could get a Fiala/Granlund deal they'd take that too.
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Kane was considered a bit of a cancer he had problems and zero playoff experience. So not the same thing.
TheBloodyNine
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Gotta say, I am a bit amazed at how many people are seemingly itching to get rid of Kreider. There are no teams out there who are substantially comprised of 27 year old and under. There are no such teams. Who replaces Krieder, both on the ice and in the locker room? If the goal is to go into a complete tank job, then why not trade ZBad as well? Then you can have Kravstov & Chytil play the top line next year and see the wonders it does for their development.
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I would sign up for that without question. Although I would try to push for Jost over Bowers, I could see Colorado considering it. They will still have a high first rounder, possibly Hughes. Add to it Kreider who is about the same age as their core, maybe push for Hayes as well in free agency. All of a sudden Colorado is a little powerhouse of a team. While only having to deal their second first round pick and a decent prospect.
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Are they itching to get rid of him or are they seeing a pattern in who has been traded off this team and working from there?
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I’m not criticizing you because you’re not wrong in terms of perceived value - but I find the concept asinine. Can we reel off the majority of Top 10 pick failures? #1 I’m not trading 20 - and #2 I’m stitching a C on his jersey. Move up 15 spots to select an alternative gamble? Not a chance in hell.
I would riot if Gorts was this cavalier with his assets.
DanielBrassard
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And also are skeptical of giving Kreider a potential 7 year contract. It's a really tough decision at this point, I don't think anyone is itching to get rid of him.
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This is exactly right. It’s a video game mind set.
Kreider is 27 years old and there is every reason/physical indication that he will hold up well.
Honestly, I’m really fired up today on this topic. If you don’t see Kreider as instrumental to our present and future, we are having different experiences. This guy is the aorta of this turning point for the franchise. I’m ticked off now! Come at me, bro!
nyrage
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I think it gets misinterpreted at times. It happened to me. Someone asked me why I wanted to trade CK . I don't want to trade Kreider. I love the guy although we overrate him a bit. However, the way his name has been out there and the way the Rangers have handled other players approaching the end of their contract, it seems like they will trade him as opposed to signing him to a lengthy deal. I would prefer that they do it while he has more value as opposed to waiting until the deadline next year.
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12 of 13 of the top point producers on Tampa are 28 or younger, McD being the old/odd man out at age 29.
Kreider would be 29 when his extension starts.
The top point producing forward on Tampa who is 29 or older? Ryan Callahan, who is also their only forward who is of age 29 or older.
Kreider would be 29 when his extension starts.
The top point producing forward on Tampa who is 29 or older? Ryan Callahan, who is also their only forward who is of age 29 or older.
It's insane to me. Last year people wanted to trade him straight up for Puljarvi, this year it's Tolvanen, next year it will be someone else. Grass is always greener.
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Obviously we do not know his demands, but what if he is asking for 6-7 years at 7 per season? I mean, I don't have him as my profile pic for nothing. I would rather not trade him, but if his demands are too high, I'm moving on. Recouping a mid 1st, prospects, etc could be strong for a rebuilding team.
We can get some veteran players for these guys. Toronto had guys like JVR, Bozak, Komarov, Polak, and Hunwick. Those aren't really top line players. JVR was the best of that bunch and to me he's a 2nd line guy.
We could even get some guys on rosters that are older and trade FOR them in exchange of us taking their cap hit. None of those players have the ability of a Kreider, but they could help the younger players. Guys like Callahan, Backes, etc to give cap teams relief to make a push next season. I don't think there will be a shortage of vets on our roster.
$8.5 Million when Kane got $7...
Where in Gods name do people come up with these numbers.
A lot of you know as much as the next guy...nothing.
Brooks stating it could be around $6.5 aav is very fair. Less than Kane. And the constant argument point of Kreider not really hitting his peak until now, also plays against him not getting the high aav salary some are literally making up here.
Just like our recently traded players were overvalued on this board, the same is being done with Kreider thinking he is going to get some insane AAV.
Personally I am against contracts longer than 4 years. It is like leasing a car you usually do it for 3 years, you don't ask them to do a 5 year lease if you really love it. Why put yourself in a dangerous situation and be stuck with a ridiculously long contract? So many teams did it and it often backfired on them.
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And 3 of the top 4 Bruins scorers are 30+.
And 4 of the top 5 Caps scorers are 28+
And 5 of the top 7 Pens scorers are 30+
There's a way to make the age argument, and I don't think yours is the most convincing way.
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But that's just not realistic. You can't be the only team in the league giving out lesser term deals than other teams. Similar players sign similar deals because the market is set.
I believe the former. Just becuase Gorton traded away Zucc and Hayes, does not mean that he will not extend Krieder. I believe (and who knows, I could be way off base) that Gorton has identified the players that he wants here for the long haul. If he was going to trade Kreider, wouldn't the return be greater this year rather than in a year in which he is heading into free-agency?
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The general flow was that "There are no teams out there who are substantially comprised of 27 year old and under"
Just pointing out the top team currently in the standings is actually substantially comprised of 28 year olds and under.
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