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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XXVIII

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On another note (didn't know where to place this, and may be something to talk about) Expansion draft thread was shut down.........quoting from another thread.

Zucc36 said:
Mats Zuccarello, but only if he is resigned with multiple years, and protected in the Seattle expansion draft. Can´t see any meaning in naming him Caption otherwise. He is bound for Seattle if he stays unprotected in that draft.
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You know, this "has to be" something Gorton had better be thinking about. Being able to "protect" exactly who he "has to" protect. We can't afford to lose anyone that we really need on this team come 2021-22.
Seems like a long ways away, but proper planning on who they think will comprise the team before that draft, I believe to be monumental.
Gorton needs to look into his crystal ball.

Grabbed this from a Brooks article in December.
"Teams will be able to protect either one goaltender, three defensemen and seven forwards or one goaltender and eight skaters. First- and second-year pros are exempt. Players with no-move clauses must be protected. The Rangers have just two players currently under contract beyond 2020-21: Mika Zibanejad and Brady Skjei, neither of whom owns a no-move clause."

Thoughts anyone?
 
Leonardo87 said:
Simmonds relies heavily on PP production and is not very good defensively. If a team wants to pay top dollar for him as a rental, so be it, will only be better for us with the return of Zucc and Hayes.
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Teams look for his type of game in the playoffs. If goes to a strong contender, he can slide in on the second or even the third line.
 
Larrybiv said:
Im with you Kreidermaster :cool:. Sounds about right and I really woukd prefer Kakko myself, but whatever. I suppose you cannot lose with any of those 3.

But in regard to Dorofeyev.......we really need to think about poor Sam Rosen......he has enough problems even pronouncing Georgiev. He needs to retire soon anyway.
And if Columbus loses Bob and Panarin, maybe JD will be available. :sarcasm:
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Dorofeyev is easier than Kravtsov. I've already heard him say Kravstov, Kratsov, Gravtsov. He's going to struggle so much.
 
Larrybiv said:
On another note (didn't know where to place this, and may be something to talk about) Expansion draft thread was shut down.........quoting from another thread.


You know, this "has to be" something Gorton had better be thinking about. Being able to "protect" exactly who he "has to" protect. We can't afford to lose anyone that we really need on this team come 2021-22.
Seems like a long ways away, but proper planning on who they think will comprise the team before that draft, I believe to be monumental.
Gorton needs to look into his crystal ball.

Grabbed this from a Brooks article in December.
"Teams will be able to protect either one goaltender, three defensemen and seven forwards or one goaltender and eight skaters. First- and second-year pros are exempt. Players with no-move clauses must be protected. The Rangers have just two players currently under contract beyond 2020-21: Mika Zibanejad and Brady Skjei, neither of whom owns a no-move clause."

Thoughts anyone?
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The Rangers will likely need to protect Chytil, Andersson, and Howden as well. Possibly Kreider and Buchnevich. If there weren't already 6 forwards on that list, I wouldn't care if bringing Kravtsov over to the Rangers this year meant having to protect him. I would be very very careful about signing another player that's going to need protection.
 
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Via TSN. Boston GM Don Sweeney;
"You don’t want to tell people or advertise that we’re really desperate, we just lost a first-line scoring winger on a team that was already looking for a second-line scoring winger or a third-line centre," McKenzie explained on Insider Trading.

So, wouldn't Hayes be someone they might want? Would be a solid acquisition to be that 3rd line center, or maybe even be that 2nd line winger they need. Boston anyone? Decent fit.

Story also included Boston would be giving up "alot" for rental of Panarin.......would they "settle" for Hayes and a chance to keep him? Just wondering. I like Frederic from what I have seen and his hard nosed play, we cpuld use "another defensive prospect, and Donato would immediately replace Hayes............Here......

Fluto Shinzawa of The Athletic wrote last week that acquiring Panarin could cost the Bruins three pieces; centre Ryan Donato or defenceman Urho Vaakanainen, forward Trent Frederic and the team's first-round pick.
 
Having an extra protection slot the team is not really needing to use could also open up avenues for trades at that time period, so if possible it's better to have more than they really need than to have them all filled.
 
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Larrybiv said:
Via TSN. Boston GM Don Sweeney;
"You don’t want to tell people or advertise that we’re really desperate, we just lost a first-line scoring winger on a team that was already looking for a second-line scoring winger or a third-line centre," McKenzie explained on Insider Trading.

So, wouldn't Hayes be someone they might want? Would be a solid acquisition to be that 3rd line center, or maybe even be that 2nd line winger they need. Boston anyone? Decent fit.

Story also included Boston would be giving up "alot" for rental of Panarin.......would they "settle" for Hayes and a chance to keep him? Just wondering. I like Frederic from what I have seen and his hard nosed play, we cpuld use "another defensive prospect, and Donato would immediately replace Hayes............Here......

Fluto Shinzawa of The Athletic wrote last week that acquiring Panarin could cost the Bruins three pieces; centre Ryan Donato or defenceman Urho Vaakanainen, forward Trent Frederic and the team's first-round pick.
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bostons prospects dont really excite me much
 
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Tawnos said:
The Rangers will likely need to protect Chytil, Andersson, and Howden as well. Possibly Kreider and Buchnevich. If there weren't already 6 forwards on that list, I wouldn't care if bringing Kravtsov over to the Rangers this year meant having to protect him. I would be very very careful about signing another player that's going to need protection.
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Yes, this is exactly my point. With the rebuild going the way it has been going, we will be adding many more into our system, we have to be careful. Fortunately we will only have Mika with a nmc that kicks in soon. Hank and Marc will be finishing up.
So many different things come into play. Trade Zuccha and maybe he returns? He would have to be protected, right? If that is the case......you have to allow for that. Protect him and then maybe lose someone like Howden? I dunno, then why allow Zuccha to come back in the 1st place, if that is the case.
Kreids......who knows, maybe he is traded? If so, I will cringe.
Good chance some of our "prospects" wont have to be protected as they wouldn't be eligible to be grabbed by Seattle.
 
Larrybiv said:
Yes, this is exactly my point. With the rebuild going the way it has been going, we will be adding many more into our system, we have to be careful. Fortunately we will only have Mika with a nmc that kicks in soon. Hank and Marc will be finishing up.
So many different things come into play. Trade Zuccha and maybe he returns? He would have to be protected, right? If that is the case......you have to allow for that. Protect him and then maybe lose someone like Howden? I dunno, then why allow Zuccha to come back in the 1st place, if that is the case.
Kreids......who knows, maybe he is traded? If so, I will cringe.
Good chance some of our "prospects" wont have to be protected as they wouldn't be eligible to be grabbed by Seattle.
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Well, you don't have to protect players that don't have an NMC.
 
Rangers in 7 said:
bostons prospects dont really excite me much
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Accruing depth is NOT A BAD THING. There will be other teams in cap crunches very soon looking for inexpensive depth players. Toronto is one. Dallas may be another. There will be opportunities to move some of depth guys who look promising for a high end player. First step is accruing said quality depth
 
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Isn't there something about having to expose certain stuff too?

I'm to lazy to look it up, yet I think the Rangers played someone just to get him to reach whatever that threshold was.

Anyways, they may want to have that stuff as well at that time period.
 
Off Sides said:
Isn't there something about having to expose certain stuff too?

I'm to lazy to look it up, yet I think the Rangers played someone just to get him to reach whatever that threshold was.

Anyways, they may want to have that stuff as well at that time period.
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I believe they have to expose 2 signed forwards, 1 signed D, and 1 signed or RFA G. The skaters have to all have reached certain thresholds of NHL time. 40 games the previous year or 70 over the previous 2 years.
 
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Tawnos said:
I believe they have to expose 2 signed forwards, 1 signed D, and 1 signed or RFA G. The skaters have to all have reached certain thresholds of NHL time. 40 games the previous year or 70 over the previous 2 years.
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Thanks

also it was Puempel who I was thinking of, exactly 40 games in his season prior to expansion.
 
The Rangers are going to be in a position to acquire a great young player that's an RFA from a team in a cap crunch. Mitch Marner, Patrik Laine, and Kyle Connor come to mind for me. Winnipeg and Toronto are going to need talent on ELC's or bridge contracts to contribute to backfill their depth. Those two teams are going for Cups.

Matthews got a huge contract. Nylander signed a new deal. Nylander's value is at a low point after his slow start, but he's heating up again. Marner's agent is talking the player right out of Toronto. He wants the Matthew's deal for his client. 5 years and $11 million/year cap hit. Good luck to whoever takes that contract on. Marner is good but not $11 million good. Agents are going to want their clients paid this summer and next before another lockout further limits the contracts that can be handed out.

Buyer beware on Laine. If you take away his time and space he's neutralized. The kid plays hours and hours of Fortnite a day. Is he putting in the work in practice that he should? Good luck to the team that gives him $10 million+.

Kyle Connor is the guy I'm targeting this summer if I'm Gorton. The Rangers have depth pieces in spades. Winnipeg will rent Stone or Duchene but won't have the money to sign either long term. If they pay Laine and Trouba, there's little to no room for Connor.

Pionk, Buchnevich, Tampa's 1st/2nd, and the rights to Nils Lundkvist for Kyle Connor. Now is the time to lock up a top line talent that is young enough to be a foundational piece when the team is ready to contend again.
 
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