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No, of course not, the entirety of professional hockey has missed this angle, but we, internet messageboard posters, have seen through the fog and are now in possession of the truth.
Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXVII
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Only way is if Panarin goes with Zibs.
Panarin Zibs Kakko
Laffy Chytil Kreider
Goodrow/Barron Blais
Rongomania
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Yes, if he had this stat line and played for Montreal.
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Zibanejad - acquired good 2way center- Goodrow/Barron
I was hoping Chytil would take a step in the defensive side of the game… maybe it’s too soon but he always leaves me wanting more
it all hinges on Zibs playing like 2019 Zibs. If we don’t get that player, we’re screwed. Not a fan of tofu Zibs
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
Points to how tough of a spot the Rangers are in down the middle.
Kocur Dill
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I like where you're headed but I think it takes more than Kravtsov to land Toews. At 50% we are adding big time, probably Lundkvist and/or Georgiev.
I made a post recently how this team is in dire need of a Captain. Someone that will garner attention and respect. A guy in the trenches with the troops who can motivate the room to follow the Coaches protocols on the ice, up and down the line up. I mentioned Messier, Yzerman, MacKinnon, Pronger...Toews has the credentials, player respect, and demeanor to be effective at it here.
Toews C
Trouba A
Goodrow A
That is it.
Oscar Lindberg
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f*** Jonathan Toews
With all the shit that went down with the Blackhawks, the Rangers should have no interest in him
I would be very disappointed if they traded for him
With all the shit that went down with the Blackhawks, the Rangers should have no interest in him
I would be very disappointed if they traded for him
bleedblue94
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Anyone that ever "expects" 2019 zibs is living in fantasy world though.
Players that consistently carry .72 goals per game along with a .6 assists per game with .47 powerplay points per game are borderline generational talents. Zib was playing out of his mind for a stretch that season. We will likely never see that again from him and we should not expect it under any circumstances...
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I'm not even talking about the offense. I'm talking about the 2way aspect and relentless forechecking Zibs.
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I’m a fan of building a 3rd line that includes Barron and Goodrow long term. To me, that’s 2/3 of a really solid, 2-way, physical 3rd line. I’d throw Kreider on the LW and away we go.
The concern I have is at 2C and how wingers like Lafreniere, Kaako and Panarin can learn to play with each other. Blais being the 4th member there although I think he could compliment any of those 3 guys nicely.
Moving on from Strome was necessary before the season started and it’s just as necessary now. I think the team is HOPING Chytil can grab the reigns as force the issue a bit but up to this point that hasn’t happened. He’s still young and it’s conceivable the future 3rd line could be Barron-Chytil-Goodrow long term. The issue being that means one of the wingers has to go (Kreider, Panarin, Lafreniere, Kaako, Blais)
The concern I have is at 2C and how wingers like Lafreniere, Kaako and Panarin can learn to play with each other. Blais being the 4th member there although I think he could compliment any of those 3 guys nicely.
Moving on from Strome was necessary before the season started and it’s just as necessary now. I think the team is HOPING Chytil can grab the reigns as force the issue a bit but up to this point that hasn’t happened. He’s still young and it’s conceivable the future 3rd line could be Barron-Chytil-Goodrow long term. The issue being that means one of the wingers has to go (Kreider, Panarin, Lafreniere, Kaako, Blais)
This is the consensus and it’s a huge reason why Barron is only playing center.
Barclay Goodrow was a huge part of a very good 3rd line on a SC champion powerhouse. I’m inclined to leave him at LW where he does his best work. Having him being able to win face offs if Barron struggles in that department is a major plus.
I think they’re hoping Cuylle or Berard will be the eventual 3rd guy there.
But Goodrow-Barron-kakko/Blais
Is a pretty powerful 3rd like to trot out every night.
Strome and Georgiev is going to be addition by subtraction.
Chytil will have the rest of this season to prove himself. If he doesn’t shown a massive jump in consistency, Drury is going to trade him for an upgrade in the offseason.
They aren’t waiting to see if chytil is still developing by 24-25 years old. Not happening if they want to make a run in the best years of Zibby/panarin/kreider/Trouba/shesty.
If chytil doesn’t have a 45 pt season at least, it’s curtains for him... you heard it here 1st. Chytil may keep developing and be a finished product around 25 years old, similar to Zibby, but the way this team is constructed, you have a better chance of seeing The Titanic pull in to NY harbor then Chytil on next years opening roster.
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Yeah, another absolutely not to Toews for me.
I get that it was a long time ago and if he said the right things, maybe.
He went out not two weeks ago and excused it. He can play in traffic.
I get that it was a long time ago and if he said the right things, maybe.
He went out not two weeks ago and excused it. He can play in traffic.
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You can buy those players if you want them, the ones that bring that and the offense are the ones people care about. If zib was just forechecking with a 2 way game but limited offense everyone would be complaining that he was steve rucchin...
Yea no toews, no Pavelski, no Hertl
Larkin/Hintz/Lindholm/PLD all wont be available.
Odds are it will be a cheaper young guy who isn’t proven.
I keep going back to the kings
I think we wind up with Kupari/Villardi type in trade
Maybe an outside shot at Turcotte but he’d cost a ton. Plus I think LA keeps him and moves him to wing.
Maybe, if Barron has chemistry with Panarin and we hit an unlikely home run there, Drury might take a Run at Anderson-Dolan or Stephenson from Vegas.
Talking with Vegas fans, they seem to think even with the addition of Eichel, Karlsson isn’t going anywhere. That could make Stephenson the odd man out there
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That's a false dichotomy. It's not one or the other. He was a good 2way player and scorer for 2 seasons. It went away after covid for some unknown reason. We need that player back, especially considering our other centers are bad defensively.
Goodrow at 3C helps. Hypothetically, a 2C like Karlsson would be amazing.
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I saw somewhere today that Larry mentioned on his podcast he thinks the Rangers should be in on Hertl if the Sharks make him available
Although idk how they’d fit him in long term past this season
Although idk how they’d fit him in long term past this season
I think this team will be adding come the deadline. And I think he will be on the list of targets. Maybe they have a ceiling of what they would be willing to trade before moving onto the next guy on their list, but I think Pavelski will be near the top.
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Almost like we should have kept rebuilding and got some centers.
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the only guy that interests me is Turcotte. I see him potentially being somewhere in between Point and Cirelli.... I'm fine with all those scenarios
I'd overpay for him.
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If he can be like a Danault, that's all that matters. Covers for his 'cheating' and 'lazy' wingers. His outlets are obviously not at Danault level
Gallant was talking about players having bad habits [and that it takes a while to get out of the system]. We know Zib has a responsible two way game in him because we've seen it.
bleedblue94
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You just said you werent talking about the offense and that you wanted 2 way and hard forecheck.
quote: I'm not even talking about the offense. I'm talking about the 2way aspect and relentless forechecking Zibs.
You are pining for the player we saw from him in his prime years prior to getting covid which absolutely affected him. The odds of him ever being that player again as he shifts into his 30s are remote. It is called setting yourself up for disappointment...
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