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Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXVI
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Amazing Kreiderman
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no more striptease no more flashes
I choose to view this as confirmation that the Rangers organization operates on Land Before Time principles: they don't play with longnecks.
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EdJovanovski
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rangers1314
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That's not true. I don't think he's been untouchable since his first scamper home.
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rangers1314
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It doesn't change the fact that if a team out there had offered a 1st for him prior to this, he would have been traded by now.
You're not getting a 1st for him now.
I think he's been on the block for at least a year and a day.
Even after sleeping on this, I can't imagine why Kravstov decided to go full nuclear option instead of just chilling in Hartford til like Thanksgiving to see if he gets a shot (he probably would've).
It really just makes no sense to me.
It really just makes no sense to me.
rangers1314
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No need to overthink it. Kravy decided to go full Lias Andersson. Not the choice I would have made but it's a free world fortunately.
EdJovanovski
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We might be far outside playoffs so a decent draft pick next summer to recover by all the Kravtsov news recently.
In consider how Tampa lost that game without Crosby & Malkin on the ice last evening it wont be easier for us to get a foot inside the playoffs. I am aware we have 82 games this season which is more normal and that is great!
In consider how Tampa lost that game without Crosby & Malkin on the ice last evening it wont be easier for us to get a foot inside the playoffs. I am aware we have 82 games this season which is more normal and that is great!
NYR Viper
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So names and teams who will probably come calling (or at least should):
Arizona
Barrett Hayton
Taken 5th overall in the same draft as Kravtsov
Barrett Hayton Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com
Has bounced around a bit and his finish to last year in the AHL showed less than desirable results. Looking further back he has been productive at most levels he has played at, expecially the WJC where he played with Lafreniere and put up 12 points in 7 games for Team Canada.
LA
They have a few guys who would probably intrigue the Rangers at center
Tyler Madden
Former 3rd rounder from the same drat as Kravtsov
Played a couple of seasons at Northeastern and then a season in the AHL last year. A bit undersized but skilled. Originally from Albany, NY. I would say he probably needs another season in the AHL to marinate but the skill is there.
Tyler Madden Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com
Alex Turcotte
Former 5th overall pick of the Kings a year after Kravtsov was selected. He didn't make the NHL club this season so he is back in the AHL. Played a season at Wisconsin and then a season in the AHL. Speedy center/winger who is a bit undersized. If LA thinks others have surpassed him or they feel Kravtsov gives them a different look than what Turcotte brings there's a possibility for a deal here.
Alex Turcotte (b.2001) Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com
Rasmus Kupari
former 20th overall pick of the Kings in the same draft as Kravtsov. He's a good 2-way center prospect who has played the last couple of seasons in the AHL mainly. Not overly flashy and he plays a gritty style that probably projects safely as a 3C, maybe with low-end 2C upside.
Rasmus Kupari Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com
Edmonton
Dylan Holloway
Former 1st rounder in the 2020 draft for Edmonton
This one may be a bit of a stretch as Holloway has progressed nicely for Edmonton. He's a big bodied center/winger who plays a heavy style. It's possible the Oilers look at Kravtsov as someone who is a couple of years further developed than Holloway and as someone who they could pair long-term with a guy like McDavid while keeping the cap hit down for a while.
Dylan Holloway Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com
Arizona
Barrett Hayton
Taken 5th overall in the same draft as Kravtsov
Barrett Hayton Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com
Has bounced around a bit and his finish to last year in the AHL showed less than desirable results. Looking further back he has been productive at most levels he has played at, expecially the WJC where he played with Lafreniere and put up 12 points in 7 games for Team Canada.
LA
They have a few guys who would probably intrigue the Rangers at center
Tyler Madden
Former 3rd rounder from the same drat as Kravtsov
Played a couple of seasons at Northeastern and then a season in the AHL last year. A bit undersized but skilled. Originally from Albany, NY. I would say he probably needs another season in the AHL to marinate but the skill is there.
Tyler Madden Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com
Alex Turcotte
Former 5th overall pick of the Kings a year after Kravtsov was selected. He didn't make the NHL club this season so he is back in the AHL. Played a season at Wisconsin and then a season in the AHL. Speedy center/winger who is a bit undersized. If LA thinks others have surpassed him or they feel Kravtsov gives them a different look than what Turcotte brings there's a possibility for a deal here.
Alex Turcotte (b.2001) Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com
Rasmus Kupari
former 20th overall pick of the Kings in the same draft as Kravtsov. He's a good 2-way center prospect who has played the last couple of seasons in the AHL mainly. Not overly flashy and he plays a gritty style that probably projects safely as a 3C, maybe with low-end 2C upside.
Rasmus Kupari Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com
Edmonton
Dylan Holloway
Former 1st rounder in the 2020 draft for Edmonton
This one may be a bit of a stretch as Holloway has progressed nicely for Edmonton. He's a big bodied center/winger who plays a heavy style. It's possible the Oilers look at Kravtsov as someone who is a couple of years further developed than Holloway and as someone who they could pair long-term with a guy like McDavid while keeping the cap hit down for a while.
Dylan Holloway Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com
EdJovanovski
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Oscar Lindberg
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He believes he should be in the NHL, plain and simple. And he should be. Plus he’s had issues with the front office before
So he requests a trade because he sees the writing on the wall here
EdJovanovski
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I think there’s more to it too, some people are even claiming that it was only a paper move to avoid wavers and he’d be up by the end of the week. I get people say he’s immature but there’s no way he would’ve reacted this way to that.
rangers1314
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I would enjoy swap deal him with Alex Turcotte (+-) kind of deal if that is even possible with Kratsov and draft a winger later.
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I think one of these names has to be the goal.
Better get on the f***ing phone, pizza boy.
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Also, I'll say this.
I'm not convinced the Rangers are done on Eichel yet.
Yes, at this point it takes moving Trouba or Kreider out after this year (if it's an in-season trade, they will accumulate enough space to fit Eichel for THIS year, relatively early, plus he can go on LTIR).
I still think it's something they are monitoring. Eichel to 2C, Chytil to RW, helps alleviate the lack of skill issue they have long term. Much easier to fill 3C at that point when you have two 90 point centers.
And yes it is a lack of skill. The people saying "we have enough skill," aren't looking at how much skill teams like Tampa and Colorado have, how much skill Pittsburgh and LA had, etc. I thought we needed at least one more high end forward BEFORE Kravtsov imploded. Now we might need two, or at least one more real elite.
I'm not convinced the Rangers are done on Eichel yet.
Yes, at this point it takes moving Trouba or Kreider out after this year (if it's an in-season trade, they will accumulate enough space to fit Eichel for THIS year, relatively early, plus he can go on LTIR).
I still think it's something they are monitoring. Eichel to 2C, Chytil to RW, helps alleviate the lack of skill issue they have long term. Much easier to fill 3C at that point when you have two 90 point centers.
And yes it is a lack of skill. The people saying "we have enough skill," aren't looking at how much skill teams like Tampa and Colorado have, how much skill Pittsburgh and LA had, etc. I thought we needed at least one more high end forward BEFORE Kravtsov imploded. Now we might need two, or at least one more real elite.
The only potential return here would be Hayton IMO. He’s got talent but still needs development time.( he’s on a longer development curve then ARI thought and rushed him).
He most likely won’t be motivated to play in ARI. They already sent him down once and their team is going to suck hard this year.
He’s a guy I might take a flyer on, but tbh I’d rather get a draft pick for Krav and pick our own guy on a more fitting timeline.
The rest of that list I don’t see being available for what we’d have to pay.
I like to think I’m a realist and put my assumptions fwd to what the brass is thinking as opposed to just wild speculation. My track record isn’t horrible either.
My guess is this is what our FO/coach views as our 4-5 year plan going fwd.
Lafreniere-Zibby-
Panarin-??/ Chytil-
Goodrow-Barron-
Fill in the right side with Kakko/Kreider/Blais and any kids that really impress from our system.
4th line———
lindgren-Fox
Jones/Lundkvist/Miller/Robertson -Trouba
Jones/Lundkvist /Miller/Robertson-Schneider
shesty
Galand/wall/Huska/UFA/trade
This season is basically still largely a transition year, but one that will likely see us make the playoffs.
The above roster is what our 4-5 year plan consists of for the future on this club in their contention window.
As you can see, the only potential big add thru major trade would be an established 2C, maybe.
We’re also going to have to deal 1-2 of our young D so a situation doesn’t arise like Kravy on the back end. These guys are either ready or right there and are going to want to play.
Lindgren-Fox
????- Trouba is going to be here at least 3 more seasons.
Schneider will break in on 3rd pair next year and not look back. He’ll eventually take away Trouba’s minutes in 2-3 seasons when Trouba can be/is moved.
So, once again, as you can see, where going to have 4 guys vying for 2 spots, with everyone ready in a year-year and a half time.
The major trick for Drury is the returns we get for these guys. No one should be under any assumptions that we are going to have room for all our kids. Contract status/cap hits/ and playing style similarities are going to prevent this for sure. We’re not going to see an all homegrown D. It’d be nice, but not realistic by any means.
It doesn’t mean we trade guys just for the sake of trading them either. But drury trading them while their value is high and restocking our pipeline of kids with accordance window our window/s of contention is very very important.
The returns we get in trade, and the players we take in the draft need to fill this teams overall needs going forward.
1st on the Agenda is Kravy since he forced the issue. If it were me, in look to get as high or a draft pick possible, or a high end goalie prospect we can stuff in our system for 2-3 years as a shesty insurance policy.
Hard choices are starting to show, drury is going to have to handle them accordingly
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NYR Viper
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Out of the names I mentioned, I think Hayton is the guy that makes the most sense for both sides. He and Kupari who I really like and would slot in really well on this teams 3rd line moving forward.
I like Turcotte, but there is just something in the way he plays along with his size that just doesn't jive for me. I think he ends up as a winger
I like Turcotte, but there is just something in the way he plays along with his size that just doesn't jive for me. I think he ends up as a winger
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