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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XXIV

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duhmetreE said:
Are the same people who say, 'We have no talent, play the talent.' the same ones that want to trade all of our talent?
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So we can lose and draft high to get better talent? Yes.

Again, there's a difference between employing bad players because you're in a rebuild and simply valuing bad players. Everything about the Rangers indicates the latter.
 
effen said:
Probably not. Soft 2nd line wingers are not in short supply.

But Buch is here now so you try. IMO.
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Oh yeah. I'm not giving up on the kid, but given the entitlement and low effort players that's on the roster right now, all Buch needs to do is move his feet, and get physically involved.

If he does that, the rest will come. Of he's going to veer away, then he can look forward to a great KHL career.

Guys not without options, what he does with it, is up to him.
 
Machinehead said:
So we can lose and draft high to get better talent? Yes.

Again, there's a difference between employing bad players because you're in a rebuild and simply valuing bad players. Everything about the Rangers indicates the latter.
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So, you want to eventually ice a bad roster but are mad because you feel, currently, the roster is filled with bad players?

Am I understanding correctly?

edit - you continue to miss the point. We are 'retoooling' or 'rebuilding'. You have to play a certain way to play. ALL players, even the 'stars/elite', need to compete and meet certain criteria.

Yes, the NYR value bad players. You got it
 
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duhmetreE said:
So, you want to eventually ice a bad roster but are mad because you feel, currently, the roster is filled with bad players?
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Crease said:
Jack Eichel: "He's a friend to me, a mentor and he's been pretty close to me even through my first few years in the NHL. He was so good to me at BU and we have such a good relationship."

Clayton Keller: "Coach Quinn was the reason why I came to BU and it was a great place for me."

Brady Tkachuk: Quinn was "really important" to him, was "one of the big reasons" why he went to BU and that he will "miss" playing for him.
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Crease said:
Jack Eichel: "He's a friend to me, a mentor and he's been pretty close to me even through my first few years in the NHL. He was so good to me at BU and we have such a good relationship."

Clayton Keller: "Coach Quinn was the reason why I came to BU and it was a great place for me."

Brady Tkachuk: Quinn was "really important" to him, was "one of the big reasons" why he went to BU and that he will "miss" playing for him.
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Sure, but those guys were good enough to get scholarships.
 
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This is a family site - can't use this language around here. Report.
 
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Rebuilding teams ice bad players because they’ve traded away their good players.

I’m pretty sure if the Rangers could acquire young players and draft picks without trading away their good older players they would.

Playing bad players just for the f*** of it seems like a questionable strategy.
 
The Rangers have 3 scouts st the Winnipeg and Boston game tonight. Last night they had a scout at the Winnipeg and Philly game as well as Chris Drury was there last night. It would appear the Rangers are scouting Winnipeg HEAVILY
 
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NYR Viper said:
The Rangers have 3 scouts st the Winnipeg and Boston game tonight. Last night they had a scout at the Winnipeg and Philly game as well as Chris Drury was there last night. It would appear the Rangers are scouting Winnipeg HEAVILY
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Both potential Hayes destinations. I like that Mikos proposal far better than Appleton and a 2nd.
 
Mikos87 said:
On Buch-

The issue is that he doesn't forecheck, backcheck, cause turnovers, create chances, hit or move his feet.

For him to be an offensive star, he needs the kind of dick swagger that comes with that, and he just doesn't have that type of dick swagger. So he needs to do all of the other things to be a complete player because the only players who get away without playing a complete game are the ones that produce elite offense.
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Pretty much this. He’s also seemingly allergic to getting within 5 feet of the boards.

The people who are trying to paint him in the light of a “good player” have some serious issues.
 
I wonder if Winnipeg would be interested in Zuccarello. They have size in spades throughout their lineup. Maurice knows Zucc from his time in the KHL. Perhaps the Rangers are scouring someone like Brendan Lemieux?
 
effen said:
The past is irrelevant. Dave Karpa and Shane Churla don't play here anymore.

11/7 seems fine if you're Quinn and want to send a message to both Pavel Buchnevich (bad) and Brendan Smith (good) individually.

But your take that organizationally they're happy if you're bad is like... cmon.
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This is the poster that destroyed AV at every turn. Now it’s an organizational problem, whatever that means. Perhaps he should look in the mirror and realize his inability to gauge the talent level of a roster is the real problem
 
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RiffyNYR61 said:
It’s funny that people want this, yet don’t take into account where he’s been placed in the lineup.
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I'm not talking about just points.

Skating and working hard is irrelevant to what line he's on. I'm under the impression he was producing because he was skating hard and working
 
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