Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XVIV
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NYR Viper
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Based on a pretty decent sample size, if there is one player to keep out of Strome, Buch and Kreider based on the below next contracts:
Kreider at 7 years for $6.5m
Buch at 4 years for $4.5m
Strome at 4 years for $4.5m
The choice to me is Strome. Use Kreider and Buch as trade pieces along with guys like Georgiev and Skjei to bring back some guys who can grow with this next core and possibly a higher end or forward
Kreider at 7 years for $6.5m
Buch at 4 years for $4.5m
Strome at 4 years for $4.5m
The choice to me is Strome. Use Kreider and Buch as trade pieces along with guys like Georgiev and Skjei to bring back some guys who can grow with this next core and possibly a higher end or forward
Oscar Lindberg
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Metrics say the 4th line is actually been playing well (minus Haley)
Quinn jut refuses to roll 4 lines, and likes to play Haley, which is my larger point
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Most people rejected his message
Where are you getting those metrics? Our 4L has been awful all year with or without Haley.
UAGoalieGuy
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Would have been nice if Fogarty got more then 3 minutes of ice time to see what he can do.
rangers1314
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Stu Bickel doesn't see what all the fuss is about.
haohmaru
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The Strome/Panarin "dynamic" might be enough for the Rangers to re-sign Strome to a two year deal let's say 4.5M/Per
Tony D is going to command a huge raise. If they want term, it's going to cost them 6M/season IMHO
Fast is a guy that's criminally underrated by this fanbase but I don't see the Rangers trading him at the deadline. 4 x 3.5M?
Lemieux? Another 2 year deal - 2.75-3M/yr
Georgiev needs to go at the deadline if Lundqvist is sticking around next year.
Kreider needs to go because we can't afford him if we're keeping the above
There's also 7 RFA's at the Wolfpack that decisions need to be made on.
15 million is not enough to sign Strome, DeAngelo, Lemieux, Fast 10-12 other contracts that we're going to need with Haley, McKegg, and Fogarty becoming UFA's.
Something else has to give besides Kreider and Georgiev and even Fast being traded. There's not enough cap space.
Tony D is going to command a huge raise. If they want term, it's going to cost them 6M/season IMHO
Fast is a guy that's criminally underrated by this fanbase but I don't see the Rangers trading him at the deadline. 4 x 3.5M?
Lemieux? Another 2 year deal - 2.75-3M/yr
Georgiev needs to go at the deadline if Lundqvist is sticking around next year.
Kreider needs to go because we can't afford him if we're keeping the above
There's also 7 RFA's at the Wolfpack that decisions need to be made on.
15 million is not enough to sign Strome, DeAngelo, Lemieux, Fast 10-12 other contracts that we're going to need with Haley, McKegg, and Fogarty becoming UFA's.
Something else has to give besides Kreider and Georgiev and even Fast being traded. There's not enough cap space.
Shesterkybomb
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I agree with this and I think Strome could end up being a more valuable trade chip than Kreider given age, production this year and RFA status. I think cashing in on that COULD be to our advantage, but he also seems to have found a home here within this group and I wouldn’t be opposed to keeping him (which I had been vocal about up until around December 1; I’ll take my crow). I wouldn’t be upset if we ended up with a first line of Panarin/Chytil/Strome and a second of Kakko/Zibanejad/Kravstov (or Buch, or even Lemieux in a Wilson role, or an acquisition).
We badly need to address the bottom six. If Strome doesn’t cost too much, a 5M high end third line guy who can slot up during injuries or when guys need a shakeup probably won’t be too much of an eyesore 2-3 years from now as the cap continues to increase.
pld459666
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Disagree
Dont think we have a decent 4th line in the Org right now.
If kids in the org cant beat out McKegg and Smith for roles, that's telling.
Haley is a 13th forward so hes not blocking anyone.
No, Boo or Fogarty are not better than the two incumbents
pld459666
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Here's what we DO know.
Both Strome AND Panarin are having career years playing next to each other.
Read that again, Strome AND Panarin are having career years playing with each other.
I'm not NOT signing Strome because Chytil may could have that same chemistry.
Seems like a whole lot of wishful thinking.
Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
Especially since he also then becomes a guy you can expose in the expansion draft.
Nothing. I think his fate is sealed. I don't think anyone believes he is part of our "future".
As I mentioned elsewhere, Rangers can always find someone to expose. Hell, they found McKegg and Haley.
Shesterkybomb
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NYRFANMANI
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What is his case actually? He's clearly a product of Panarin. Only thing he's shown is that he can hang with elite. Fine, but I'd rather acquire more future assets and find another player within to hang with Panarin, which shouldn't be all too hard to do.
It's not just all Panarin. He looked good as a Ranger last season without Panarin. He's clearly a different player than what he was with the Oilers.
He's worth more as a trade chip. I could be wrong (and I'm sure I'll be corrected if necessary) but I don't think anyone saw Strome here after this season. He is not the type of player a rebuilding team signs to a hefty contract because of one career year.
Just for example, Panarin gets the assist on Strome’s laser of a slapper last night but that’s not some gift from Panarin, that’s a player who has found his groove and is playing with confidence unleashing a great shot. His first goal also, while Panarin made a great steal and pass while falling, Strome also had the right instincts to be there and then a confident finish because he’s playing up to his skill level because his confidence is high (probably the highest it’s ever been). This was a top pick who hasn’t had the career anyone envisioned up to this point but has the size and the tools and he’s now using those tools, combined with confidence, to show why he was a top pick. I can go either way on keeping him, but I’m leaning more toward him finding his game right now than him being a flash in the pan.
Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
Kind of funny. In Smith, Haley, McKegg, Fogarty, etc. we trust.
McKegg is 27 years old with a career high of 11 points. He has 28 career points. Granlund is 26, with a career high of 32 points and 101 career points. He had 22 points last season, which is nearly Mckegg’s career total. Let’s not even bother comparing Haley or all the guys from the Pack who we’re gonna plug in as call-ups. Granlund’s contract expires in 42 games. Our depth is laughably bad. It’s not like passing on Granlund is something to get upset about but I’m scratching my head. The fact that Granlund has dressed in 3x as many NHL games as McKegg despite being younger alone is enough to prove he’s more of an NHL caliber player.
Oscar Lindberg
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You’re right I was looking at smaller game samples, not the whole season, my bad
Like I said, this team has no interest in building a competent 4th line.
I’m all for playing your best players more but it would be beneficial to everyone involved to ice a 4th line that’s decent. At the end of the day Granlund is small potatoes but this is the time they should be figuring this out.
Instead the team is consistently playing 10-11 forwards because our coach feels the need to ice scrubs who play 2 minutes a game
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I think both strome (2yr 10 mil) and fast (4yr 10-11mil) get resigned
Kreider, buch, and skjei all go by next training camp.
Kreider is just business. You can’t pass up essentially 1/3 of your potential contract value and that’s what Kreider would have to do.
We’re talking some combo of 4-6 years for 35-38million.
Where as on the open market he’ll get a combo contract equaling closer to 50 million
Kreider, buch, and skjei all go by next training camp.
Kreider is just business. You can’t pass up essentially 1/3 of your potential contract value and that’s what Kreider would have to do.
We’re talking some combo of 4-6 years for 35-38million.
Where as on the open market he’ll get a combo contract equaling closer to 50 million
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