Speculation: Roster Building Thread : Part XVIII ( TDL is March 7th)

[zlev]

Easier for people to cry about it

when this team still sucks next year because the defense still blows you'll just keep clinging to it being because Kreider is country club

 

[tiggles]

What exactly has Schneider done to prove he's anything more than a bottom pair defenseman to this point?

 

[Ruggs225]

yup. Really don't like that it doesn't even seem like Drury is trying to target a legit #2

Not sure if any are available. Not many d moved today.

 

[Fitzy]

A deeper forward group and Henrik Lundqvist barely made the finals with a much deeper D core.

Granted they didn’t have a Fox but they didn’t have a black hole at #2 either. There has to be a greater plan. Maybe a trade return for one of our forwards

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I f***ing hope not.

This isn't really a whole lot better than what we started this season with.

 

[pld459666]

It appears as if we are done?

 

[McRanger92]

when this team still sucks next year because the defense still blows you'll just keep clinging to it being because Kreider is country club

And you'll still be whining. See you then

 

[DanielBrassard]

What exactly has Schneider done to prove he's anything more than a bottom pair defenseman to this point?

Nothing except be tall. But he’s young!!! Ok but he’s never shown a damn thing to show he’s ever going to be more than what he is.

 

[TominNC]

Fans are so impatient with D. Everyone wants younger then they bitch about 23 year olds not being stars yet

 

[Good Intentions]

It’s only 2:57 now. Deadline isn’t over, not by a long shot. Happens every year into 4pm.

 

[DanielBrassard]

And you'll still be whining. See you then

Gonna call you the janitor from now on because you’ll always be there to sweep it up for the rangers.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

I f***ing hope not.

This isn't really a whole lot better than what we started this season with.

This cant be the defense they want to roll into next season with. They need another big minutes eater alongside a now more oft-injured Fox.

 

[bl02]

Schneider isn’t a #4 in any sense, the rangers have never ever used him that way for a prolonged period of time. Borgen is borderline at best but I think he’s better suited on a bottom pair on a contender. The others are all bottom pairing D. Rangers continue to build the defense in an incomplete fashion.

I know its been a short stretch but Borgen has looked like a solid 4d. Miller and Borgen now/and future can be a real good 2nd pairing.
I was hoping Schneider would become that very solid 3/4 dman. Still only 23 I guess

 

[80s Kid]

He should get a lot of 5v5 and PP time but I don't feel like he needs to be out there killing penalties full blast

e: personally I think Miller is good enough that playing with Fox makes for a fine first pairing (and the stats have born that out). I dunno how often you truly get two bonified #1 defenseman playing on the same pair.

I agree that Miller should be playing with Fox and if they want to give other people PK time, I could go along with that. However, he should be getting more 5v5 and PP time than anyone else.

 

[zlev]

Gonna call you the janitor from now on because you’ll always be there to sweep it up for the rangers.

Chris Drury Hype Man

 

[smoneil]

A lot of 4/5/6/7 guys here

Still lack the 2/3 defensemen though

It's tough to trade for those though. If a 2/3 D comes available in FA, a lot of these 4-7 guys are easily moveable. If EJ develops into a 2/3, a lot of these 4-7 guys are easily moveable. It gives the team some flexibility in the d corps so they can make moves based on opportunities rather than out of desperation.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

f***ing Vegas trolling again.

What did they do this time

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Fans are so impatient with D. Everyone wants younger then they bitch about 23 year olds not being stars yet

its more about the type of d-men this org values.

Despite all the trades and moves, we're still Fox + 5 guys who can't move the puck or provide any offense

 

[ThePeoplesPeople]

All UFAs (Lindgren, Vesey, Smith) were traded. So one would think de Haan would be shipped off for a pic, especially with the depth in place.

 

[McRanger92]

I'll never forget the clock striking midnight on deadline day in 2018. McD trade came in right under the gun and until 3:05 we all thought we were getting Point or Sergachev. Rough times.

 

[cheech70]

 

[bl02]

I f***ing hope not.

This isn't really a whole lot better than what we started this season with.

Borgen/Soucy>>>>>>>Trouba/Lindgren (And at half the price).
Still chance for Schneider/Miller to improve

 

[Callafan24]

Fox already gets low minutes for a 1D

He plays 23-24 minutes per game.

Who do you consider the top pair... the guys who face the opposition's top line or the guys who play the most minutes? It's an honest question, each game is situational.

We view Fox as a top pair guy... and are constantly disappointed that we don't have a true 1LD to partner with him. His foot speed is a weakness he needs to address. What if we let Miller-Borgen be the shutdown pair, took Fox off the PK, and were smarter about how we deployed each D-pair. Instead of labeling everyone as the #4-5-6 they'd be in a vacuum.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Borgen/Soucy>>>>>>>Trouba/Lindgren (And at half the price).
Still chance for Schneider/Miller to improve

not under this coaching staff

 

[SA16]

He plays 23-24 minutes per game.

Who do you consider the top pair... the guys who face the opposition's top line or the guys who play the most minutes? It's an honest question, each game is situational.

We view Fox as a top pair guy... and are constantly disappointed that we don't have a true 1LD to partner with him. His foot speed is a weakness he needs to address. What if we let Miller-Borgen be the shutdown pair, took Fox off the PK, and were smarter about how we deployed each D-pair. Instead of labeling everyone as the #4-5-6 they'd be in a vacuum.

Yes, low for a 1D.

32nd in TOI for D this year
26th last year

He's never been used in the type of role like a Doughty, Carlson, Seth Jones, Werenski, Josi have