Tawnos
A guy with a bass
If he's not, then Fox is, which is exactly the same situation.
Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XVI
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If he's not, then Fox is, which is exactly the same situation.
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
Tawnos
A guy with a bass
Yeah, it does. I'm not the person who says a lefty has to play on the left and righties on the right. But players just don't transition to playing their off-side later in their career than juniors/college/early-AHL time. It practically never happens and it won't happen here. If they had come up playing on the off-side? Fine.
But it usually is. More often than not, RD are RD and LD are LD. There are not that many success stories of those that switch him.
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#Norris4Fox
DeAngelo on his off-side and in the top-4 is not ideal. Why complicate things? If he has a good season and earns a long term deal, great; He could return a very good young forward. Now if DeAngelo hits 50-60 points this might become more interesting.
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
That's right, it usually is. However we have seen teams do it and have success while doing it. Is it ideal? Probably not but it's not something that should necessarily force the Rangers to keep a worse player over ADA just because of handedness. He's also said in the past he prefers playing on the left IIRC, whether he was saying that just to stick in the lineup or he really feels that way who can really say but it's something to keep in mind.
It hasn’t even been that long since the Yandle/McDonagh and MDZ/Moore issues. Look at how Faulk is struggling in St. Louis.
Look, it would be silly of the coaching and management not to examine all options. But players that have switched sides, have already usually done so with some varying of success. As a point though, very few success stories.
These are not EA Sports games where you can do as you will. In real life, playing the right side or the left side is a world of difference.
n8
WAAAAAAA!!!
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
The challenge with a lot defenseman playing the off side is you have them taking the pass at a weird angle on their forehand, or having to receive on their backhand. That’s somewhat doable if you’re a forward, but when that ability is the difference between the puck going out of the zone, or being intercepted by a pressing forward who then has momentum to take the puck the other way, most teams are very hesitant to try it.
I don't have much personal experience with this, but it seems particularly difficult to pick the puck off the boards when you're on the wrong side. I remember in high school they had us stop it with our skate and play it off that. Thats no way to receive a pass under pressure.
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
That’s all correct. It is doable, in a general sense, but it is very difficult.
Most teams would pick up on that difficulty and challenge that defender more - knowing that if they can exploit the situation, there’s probably not much stopping them from a clean breakaway on the goalie.
That’s less of a concern on the power play, because of the man advantage. But 5 on 5? A lot of coaches won’t take the risk unless they have absolutely no choice. Hell, we often see that they’d rather put a forward back there than have a defenseman play their off-side.
Now having said all that, I don’t think we’re close to having to make that decision, and I don’t think they’ll rush it.
Svenhart2008
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Not necessarily a big deal to receive it on your backhand on the point but getting the puck deep forehand versus backhand is where I would make the argument, or providing a harder pass on your forehand directly to a teammate on their tape versus transitioning from backhand, to forehead to proceed to make that same play.
Personally speaking as a defenseman, if you receive a pass in the high slot as you cut in, you can get way more off of a one timer versus being on your on-side and trying to rip one. Being on your offside cutting in gives the player the ability to torque more and get more on their shot.
When you compare Fox and DeAngelo remember this...Tony's in his fourth year in the league and Fox has been here all of two months.
Fox just keeps getting better. And better. And better!
Fox just keeps getting better. And better. And better!
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
The pace at which Fox has adjusted is beyond pleasantly surprising.
There are times he’s honestly looked better as a pro than he did as an amateur.
There are times he’s honestly looked better as a pro than he did as an amateur.
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
It goes without saying that the odds are not in favor of Lundkvist, Fox and ADA all taking regular shifts for the Rangers at the same time.
We’ll see how progress continues, what deals are out there, and what contracts are coming down the pike.
But whoever eventually gets moved, it would be nice to deal with a higher value and thus get a better return.
We’ll see how progress continues, what deals are out there, and what contracts are coming down the pike.
But whoever eventually gets moved, it would be nice to deal with a higher value and thus get a better return.
Shesterkybomb
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Keane is gonna force his way into the conversation at some point too. I mean the conversation to be on the roster I mean
Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
Don’t sleep on Skinner, either. It’s early yet, but he’s done very well so far in his D+1 year...
The issue of who to keep on defense will be forced by the expansion draft.
Personally I don't believe our front office is going to leave that up to Seattle.
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