Speculation: Roster Building Thread : Part XVI (Playoffs or Retool?)

[GoAwayPanarin]

I would be so much more excited if they were rumored to be targeting a legit first pairing LD.

Yeah a stealth Josi add would be a fantastic surprise.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Is this accounting for the salary that would be sent out? Because if Chytil is involved that 4.437+ added onto that total.

It's not enough, but this is why Zibanejad and Kreider are likely goners.

They have in house options at forward (Berard, Othmann, presumably Perreault) who can help off set some of the higher salaried forwards.

They need an actual f***ing game plan for the defense though. Thats going to be tough if they can't move at least 2 of the big 3.

No it doesn’t count what would be leaving. It does already count for Berard salary and Brodzinski being an everyday player. Here’s what’s on the books:
Panarin 11.6 million
Shesterkin 11.5 million
Fox 9.5 million
Zibanejad 8.5 million
Lafreniere 7.5 million
Kreider 6.5 million
Trocheck 5.6 million
Chytil 4.4 million
Schneider 2.2 million
Carrick 1.0 million
Berard 900k
Brodzinski 800k

Forward in (Miller) forward out (Chytil)
Now the count goes up to 18.1 million.
Team will need to sign 4 d-men

I only wanted to report known values.
Zibanejad has an NMC.
Not using any hypotheticals because Drury can’t count on the kindness of the other 31 GMs.
Can remember who said it but it’s an old hockey saying “When a GM is drowning it’s more likely his counterparts will throw him an anchor not a life preserver“.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Yeah a stealth Josi add would be a fantastic surprise.

Someone I’ve wondered about is Thomas Harley. Schneider+ for him.

 

[RGY]

VAN loses to BUF 3-2.

 

[JimmyG89]

VAN loses to BUF 3-2.

They're going to want to pull the trigger on this Miller deal and end it.

If Lindgren is in the deal, they have to figure out who is his immediate replacement on LD1. Feel like they'd need multiple dominos to fall.

For however bad Lindgren can be, he plays 20+ every night. I'm not saying it'd be permanent, but maybe you take Desharnais and his 2x2 in this trade too. Can move Schenider to the left and play with Fox.

Desharnais is basically a #7, but it's another body for the back end. Could see other teams reach out on him too.

 

[bernmeister]

Unlikely but not impossible. I'd keep the cap wide open until we hear an extension has been signed. What a colossal failure if Drury blows all our cap space right before McD announces he's testing the market. He wouldn't do that for some time but again, until there's an extension, it could still happen.

Let's guess that the max # will go up from 13? whatever to 15m per.
If we run the team my way, keeping Kreider, dealing other vets for youth we get there easy peasy

If we do not sell high on Shesty/Fox/Tro it is much tougher but leaning yes

It is not a given but I expect bread will want to avoid ugliness and rather than mutual embarrassment by him not getting big re-up offer, he will waive next yr
IF we consent to his terms->relocation
still hoping he lets us send him to DAL now

Zib MUST be moved regardless

Cuylle RFA
Edstrom RFA
Miller RFA
Jones RFA
Rempe RFA
Borgen UFA
Smith UFA
Vaakanainen UFA
Lindgren UFA
Vesey UFA
Quick UFA

22.5 million in estimated available cap space next season.
If Drury acquires JT Miller and his 8 mil that leaves 14.5 million left to sign:
2 forwards
4 d-men
1 goalie
Just to get to a 20 man roster.

Is this accounting for the salary that would be sent out? Because if Chytil is involved that 4.437+ added onto that total.

It's not enough, but this is why Zibanejad and Kreider are likely goners.

They have in house options at forward (Berard, Othmann, presumably Perreault) who can help off set some of the higher salaried forwards.

They need an actual f***ing game plan for the defense though. Thats going to be tough if they can't move at least 2 of the big 3.

No it doesn’t count what would be leaving. It does already count for Berard salary and Brodzinski being an everyday player. Here’s what’s on the books:
Panarin 11.6 million
Shesterkin 11.5 million
Fox 9.5 million
Zibanejad 8.5 million
Lafreniere 7.5 million
Kreider 6.5 million
Trocheck 5.6 million
Chytil 4.4 million
Schneider 2.2 million
Carrick 1.0 million
Berard 900k
Brodzinski 800k

Forward in (Miller) forward out (Chytil)
Now the count goes up to 18.1 million.
Team will need to sign 4 d-men

I only wanted to report known values.
Zibanejad has an NMC.
Not using any hypotheticals because Drury can’t count on the kindness of the other 31 GMs.
Can remember who said it but it’s an old hockey saying “When a GM is drowning it’s more likely his counterparts will throw him an anchor not a life preserver“.

IF McD coming here were actually possible, we could sell some of those assets for cheaper futures

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Expected goals for differential is 23rd this year and was 21st last year. The PP and the lack of finish 5 on 5 (we're actually 5th in expected goals for 5 on 5 and were 23rd last year) has done this team in.

 

[huerter]

Resign Lindy. He’s earned it. But more importantly, we need him.

 

[NickyFotiu]

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Let's guess that the max # will go up from 13? whatever to 15m per.
If we run the team my way, keeping Kreider, dealing other vets for youth we get there easy peasy

If we do not sell high on Shesty/Fox/Tro it is much tougher but leaning yes

It is not a given but I expect bread will want to avoid ugliness and rather than mutual embarrassment by him not getting big re-up offer, he will waive next yr
IF we consent to his terms->relocation
still hoping he lets us send him to DAL now

Zib MUST be moved regardless






IF McD coming here were actually possible, we could sell some of those assets for cheaper futures

He’s not a UFA until the following season.
By then Panarin’s contract will be off the books.
If a move is to be made then Drury should start now. This group’s past performance has shown that it unable to take the next step. Zibanejad can’t be moved. Buying him out won’t help.
Kreider needs to be moved Gand I can’t see Drury moving out Fox and Igor before their no movement clause kicks in.
Sadly for us fans, the GM placed himself in a room ablaze and has only left one exit unblocked.

 

[Vitto79]

Always improve your team. But if the master plan is to sign McD, don't go messing up your cap space. I really hope Drury can make out like a bandit this TDL by being a cap brokerage firm.


Fingers crossed they send him out at the TDL for some draft picks. If the TDL package turns out to be a random collection of garbage AHL players, that's also a vomit scenario.

They can’t move Lindgren without replacing him which is why I bring up Soucy In Vancouver

 

[RangerBoy]

He’s not a UFA until the following season.
By then Panarin’s contract will be off the books.
If a move is to be made then Drury should start now. This group’s past performance has shown that it unable to take the next step. Zibanejad can’t be moved. Buying him out won’t help.
Kreider needs to be moved Gand I can’t see Drury moving out Fox and Igor before their no movement clause kicks in.
Sadly for us fans, the GM placed himself in a room ablaze and has only left one exit unblocked.

Worst situation. The Rangers are winning games. Drury doesn't talk to the media. When the Rangers were 12-4-1 or something like that, Drury sent out the note after losing to Calgary and Edmonton. There was all sorts of speculation about removing players from the team. Is the plan still the same?

 

[McRanger92]

I want JT more than anyone probably but we arent the desperate team. The haters and losers (of which there are many) said the season was over for us but clearly they were wrong. Canucks have no leverage. Canes prob offering them nothing because they dont want the contract. Trading Mercer/Nemec for JT would be a panic move by the devils, the same way us trading Chytil and Schneider 2 years ago would've been. Regulation home loss to Sabres has to be putting Vancouver toward Defcon 1 with this trade.

Im still very ok with trading Chytil. I really like him but the injury concerns and lack of defensive awareness are big issues for me. Not to mention he is allergic to finishing. Drury should be able to leverage the Rangers good play/Vancouver's poor play to get the pick conditions he wants. If he can get any kind of retention, he'd be a magician.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Worst situation. The Rangers are winning games. Drury doesn't talk to the media. When the Rangers were 12-4-1 or something like that, Drury sent out the note after losing to Calgary and Edmonton. There was all sorts of speculation about removing players from the team. Is the plan still the same?

What’s the worst situation? Winning?

 

[Fitzy]

Given how much cap space NYR have, yes the big deal is everything people want to talk about, but a couple Jack Roslovic rentals (Guys that would cost very little in assets)

Olli Maata, Brian Dumoulin, Cody Ceci, Ian Cole would all be cheap on defense. Trick is that the list of pending UFAs is pretty scarce among bad teams this year.

You don't want NYR giving up 1st and 2nd round picks. so that rules out top quality guys like Kane. But a random 4th or 5th for depth guys is more pallatable.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Well seems like the team is trending back to making the playoffs.

I would do a lot for Drury to move Kreider at the deadline for a young hungry player who can help in the playoffs. Don't even need the 1st.

Kreider has been so checked out for almost every game, I want no part of him in the playoffs, one big game last year or not.

 

[McRanger92]

Well seems like the team is trending back to making the playoffs.

I would do a lot for Drury to move Kreider at the deadline for a young hungry player who can help in the playoffs. Don't even need the 1st.

Kreider has been so checked out for almost every game, I want no part of him in the playoffs, one big game last year or not.

Kreider for Frederic and a pick. Younger more physical player, better suited for the bottom 6. I think @NYR Viper has mentioned a similar framework around Jeannott. It's a shame we are getting so little from him. You have to think his declining effectiveness is partially a reason for Drury's interest in JT. they are missing that all-situations guy Kreider has been over the years.

 

[RangerBoy]

What’s the worst situation? Winning?

Winning? What are the Rangers winning? It's a flawed team. The team presidentGM wanted to make big changes a few months ago.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Winning? What are the Rangers winning? It's a flawed team. The team presidentGM wanted to make big changes a few months ago.

I’m just confused by your post, because you wrote “Worst situation. The Rangers are winning”

I thought we were Rangers fans.

The team isn’t getting a lottery pick with Igor Shesterkin in net.

What top team in the east wants the Rangers to emerge as a wild card team with a red hot Igor Shesterkin in net?

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

They can’t move Lindgren without replacing him which is why I bring up Soucy In Vancouver

jones and Vito can replace him

 

[McRanger92]

What number do Borgen and Vaakanainen want to extend here? Both guys have been great fits. not flashy but they are the defensive depth the team needs, that will always be useful. Borgen is Trouba at his best at a fraction of the cap hit. Urho is positionally solid and ist afraid to get his hands dirty for a smallish guy. They've made K'Andre and Schneider much better. Impressed at the work Drury did with those trades.

 

[Captain Monglobster]

Nice 5-0 win to bump up the boys trade value. Still want at least 4 of these guys off the team.

 

[RGY]

I never understood fans that need the GM to speak to the Media or the Fans themselves via the Media. Like who cares? I would almost rather the GM speak up less making him hard to read for the other GMs around the league.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Someone I’ve wondered about is Thomas Harley. Schneider+ for him.

Why we trading Schneider? Makes 0 sense

I never understood fans that need the GM to speak to the Media or the Fans themselves via the Media. Like who cares? I would almost rather the GM speak up less making him hard to read for the other GMs around the league.

Same reason the players and coaches have to, accountability, it's easy to hide and meddle about with the roster but when you gotta sit and take the heat for crap deals it might make you think twice before trading Buchnevich for nothing.

 

[Vitto79]

jones and Vito can replace him

jones and Vito can replace him

Sorry i am not capable

But seriously we can crap on Lindgren but he’s better than those guys at this stage of their careers