You guys are missing the forest through the trees. If getting JT Miller for 50% of his value is available now, you do it, and you figure the rest out later. Is it risk free? No, but trading guys like Sykora, Lindgren, Chlemar, even Chytil, is not mortgaging the future.
I've heard it forever that the team needs all guys under 25 years old on lifetime contracts below market value. It's not how reality works. Miller is one of the few bulldogs in the league with skill you get him for the next 4-5 years and pair him with Trocheck there are your 1-2 centers. Figure out what to do with Mika, either he bounces back and pushes Trocheck to 3C or he's forced out of here.
This team has some good pieces in place, and is retooling. It's pretty evident Drury is identifying what he believes is missing and he's got the freedom to implement his plan. So we are going to have to live with his plan as fans. Let's hope he gets it right but frankly, adding guys with jam and skill is exactly what wins in this league. We saw it with Vegas Colorado Florida Tampa, skill + jam. Too many of the Rangers skill guys don't have the jam. Miller does.
bold: issue is not how much we pay, but what is optimal currency expenditure that makes most sense for us
what will they take they we can not only live with, but prefer to do
we don't have to give up Chytil or a 1st
peeps, pls let that sink in
they desp want to ditch Desharnais who is a pylon
Lindgren is actually more mobile and a functional upgrade
so the combo that works is
Kaliyev, Sykora, Smith + Lindgren
for
jtm + desharnais
THAT is THE line that should be held
if we want to be generous, and enable them to say they got something out of us, you throw in Jones and/or BMB
THAT'S IT
no Chytil, bigger primo prospects
underline: you want the best players regardless of age BUT
REMEMBER THE FOLLOWING
you want max chances to win the most
that is NOT going all in short term win now stupidity
it is as much quality youth as you can obtain/develop
remember
chemistry can be age irrespective
BUT
esp in POs, energy/hunger of youth >> vet experience
I invite challenges to say the above is wrong.
A player struggling 40 games into a season is labeled "in decline."
A player gets hot for 40 games and the response is "let's see him keep doing it before we decide"
It's very unlikely that Fox, Panarin, Trocheck, Zibanejad, and Kreider are all in decline. Maybe 1 or 2 of them, but very unlikely all of them are.
you do not mean it, my friend, but in your haste and passion you are sloppy.
Fox + bread are obv not in decline
they should be dealt only b'c
the return extends our window and in Fox's case, it's now or never as to permissions
tro is just a bit slow. Not ready to say decline just yet.
Again, compare value of kept vs return
Kreider, again, he is playing injured and he can not constantly set up Zib who fails REPEATEDLY
zib = bite me, you selfish arrogant bastard, bite me
Thanks for objectively demonstrating how much Zib totally sucks
not regular sucks, but ass level sucks
Miller can and should also return a 1st. Kreider would be the last player is trade unless the off is too good to pass up
Agreed, tho at this pt, esp w/Fortescue believed to be a season/+ away, I would extend KAM and keep unless return is too good.
Healthy Kreider returns a lot, but this is not healthy Kreider.
The persecution of a real heart and soul guy who is like only one who contributes real beast factor has to stop
And going forward, Edstrom and Rempe should be the PP guys in front of the net.
This is to all the "eye test" posters out there.
Despite all of your posturing and cheast beating about Mika being a detriment to this team and what not. How is it that for the past 10+ games his line leads the team in xGF/60? Mikas line is literally our best line at creating offence.
I would love to see the peanut gallery try to spin this.
You cherry pick all you want.
He is allergic to contact, his def is beyond attrocious
and he is not actually put the puck in the net enough to merit excusal
Your argument is basically forget he was wasting Kreider +, now he is pulling down Cuylle, but b'c he is slightly better statistically (assuming your claim is accurate), let it go
pay no attention to the man behind the curtain
he is not the great and powerful wizard of Ahhs or anything else
You're like fancy bern, lol.
@RangerBoy remains our most esteemed poster.
I am merely our most creative one.
I am honored by the comparison, even if we disagree a bit here and there
i think drury is trying to wait out VAN and see if they'll do mika for miller
and then we have to get mika to waive
i'd honestly be surprised at this point if drury trades for him otherwise.
and this is the only way the move makes any real sense.
trading one guy whose value is in the toilet for the other. plus a 500K cap savings!
Mika is not waiving to VAN at this pt
He MIGHT if either/both EP and JTM are gone
but I doubt it.
On paper I could MAYBE see ANA if we gave him to them max retained
but that is also a stretch
looks like it will be an EC team
That said, we should not wait.
His ridiculous def is basis enough to make him sit and sit and sit
until he breaks
and waives now not later
Mika and Kreider are anchors.
Not true, and I won't repeat myself.
you could have tipped her 22% for Beuk & Leetch......just sayin....
There is one idiot here who I will not name who constantly ha-ha's me, constantly. Like if I said water was wet constantly.
Lately
@Mandar has been joining that poster w/constant haha.
Ok, my turn!
We have a few Mika apologists in here. Why ? God knows.
b'c for any of a number of reasons, incl they would rather go there than admit bern was right
How the f*** can he be a detriment to the team when he is constantly creating offence? I mean, what are we doing here? Has this board gone completely insane? Are xGF/60 a bogus stat all of a sudden. Cuylle is having more high danger chances than ever before playing with Mika. Even more than when he was playing on "the best line in hockey". Sure, the scoring is down but that is due to puck luck.
