Speculation: Roster Building Thread : Part XV (Light em up!)
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Boris Zubov
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It honestly sounds worse the second time around. This is terrible negotiating first of all...once a guy is mentioned as being a possible malcontent, his value goes down not up.
Next, big name players being dealt rarely bring this type of haul back. Most recent example is Eichel. Vegas gave up one top 6 roster player in Tuch, a middling, overhyped prospect with known history of injuries in Krebs , 1st round & a 2nd round picks. Vegas got back Eichel & a 3rd.
Petterson is not returning our two best prospects, a top 4 d man & a top 6 center. If Drury does this, we should riot.
Filip Chytil
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An injured ass. Gluteus maximus. Largest muscle in the body.
Kreider has an injury to the largest muscle in the human body! That's no joke!
That would only be *IF* Mika and Kreider (and now Laf and Trocheck) were playing NHL caliber hockey. Currently that group is not even playing the sport. So whereas the defense is basically all-time bad, the offense is just as useless.
The Rangers have no firepower or talent, at all. No grit or jam. They aren't trying, and probably don't have it anymore.
The East is bad but the Rangers are even worse. They have been the worst team in the league along with Buffalo for two months. Two players wouldn't turn this team around. More like 8 or 9. Very hard to do. Unless a miracle happens, this is not a playoff team for the foreseeable future.
I would prefer a miracle.
Jaromir Jagr
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It's old school way of thinking. Parity has increased so dramatically in the NHL with the constant expansion that it's easier than ever to flip things around. You can end up in the doldrums for an extended period but a few right moves and players improving play can make you easily go from out to in.
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zlev
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Zibanejad is a top 6 center? Zibanejad is one of the worst players in the entire league. he has negative trade value. Miller has to be traded, we absolutely should not pay him what he's going to get in the offseason. might as well use him to get an elite two way 26 year old 1C. and "our two best prospects" are probably not even close to most teams two best prospects. Perreault is awesome for sure but Othmann is only our 2nd best because we have absolutely nobody else. so it's two prospects, a 2nd pair defenseman and a cap dump for Pettersson. i honestly dont know what you expect we could get him for? on top of that Buffalo could probably blow this offer out of the water.
Boris Zubov
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I agree that he's not a top 6C at this point, but Mika still has perceived value around the league. I don't think he ever turns it around, but there might be some GM who thinks to himself that all he needs is a change of scenery, etc. Just like Tuba, some dumb GM took on his entire cap hit & sent us a roster player in return when there were plenty of posters who swore we would have to attach assets to move him.
Regardless, Perrault is off limits in this trade. I'd give up Othmann & Mika & a 1st if it meant getting out of Mika's deal, but adding Miller to that is just silly. It's like Gorton throwing in JT Miller for no good reason. Besides, Petterson is a total f***ing enigma at this point, as is Mika, the difference is Mika is 7 years older. There's no reason to over pay for him & frankly the only reason I'd be in on him at all is to jettison Mika. If Buffalo blows away Vancouver with a better offer, they can have him.
DanielBrassard
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With the way Pettersson has played since his contract extension it’s really not a slam dunk. Perreault should only be traded if we are talking about someone who has basically zero concerns in terms of personality and performance. And as much as Zibanejad sucks, retaining half his contract for 5 years is a burden on the cap, compiled with trading multiple cost controlled assets it’s a tough sell.
zlev
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sure, he's had a down year but think a lot of that has to do with the situation in Vancouver. if he wasn't having a down year he would never even be available in the first place. his analytics look good and he still has 28pts in 34 games. as far as retaining on Zibanejad, I really don't see how anyone is going to take him at full cost. having a 4.25mil cap burden to get him off the team feels more than worth it to me right now.
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When the too many men penalty was called last night, the reason it took so long was because one of the refs tried to explain that Zibanejad isn't on Florida.
McRanger92
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Despite the obvious flaws with the roster construction, the Rangers have a foundation in place of guys who have played their best hockey in the biggest games. It's in there.. The 2 ECFs werent an accident, even if the team was bit over their heads against real Cup winning teams. And we are very young still, even if people want to say we can't develop players to make themselves feel better that their faves might just suck.
bleedblue94
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I told you all this summer it was coming.
I told you again prior to Thanksgiving it was coming.
Then Brooks said it was coming
Now Friedman is tell you all it's coming
Enjoy the carnage and I think some of your can stop doubting me...
I told you again prior to Thanksgiving it was coming.
Then Brooks said it was coming
Now Friedman is tell you all it's coming
Enjoy the carnage and I think some of your can stop doubting me...
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dshea19
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I will believe it when he does it for more than a handful of games and then goes cold for a longer stretch. He always gets points in spurts.
Absolutely. I’m just pissed we gave him away for a bag of chips
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Shoutout to Chytil. Never shies away from the middle of the ice and plays his ass off every shift even though he’s one hit away from being a vegetable. And then he sits on the bench and watches the 6v5 without complaining
I wish it'd hurry the f*** up and get here.
Don't threaten me with a good time, is what I'm saying
I mean there are guys on this team that I don't think they should trade, and it'd be stupid to trade them, but I do not give a shit if everyone on the team was traded
KirkAlbuquerque
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Wonder what a Stamkos for Zibanejad trade could look like and if it would be of interest to both parties. It hasn't worked out for him in Nashville but playing with Panarin and Fox should open up his one timer, and he's a real leader we could use.
McRanger92
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Im begging for it to come sooner. Im disappointed it hasnt happened yet!
I was talking trading him but if he plays like that he can play for my team any day. While his teammates mope around he plays like a guy with nothing to lose when his injury history shows he very much does. He and his line get us back in the game like that have literally all season, and yet its china doll Zibanejad instead on the 6 on 4. Legit pisses me off as a fan. Get someone to coach this team who understands how big a deal that is.
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