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I believe @Amazing Kreiderman posted that it cannot be lower than 20th at this point.
But I defer to others because I have not devoted enough time to researching/understanding the order.
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I believe @Amazing Kreiderman posted that it cannot be lower than 20th at this point.
But I defer to others because I have not devoted enough time to researching/understanding the order.
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Thirty One
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Winners of the first round don't move above the losers of that round if they are ranked below them. Only the final four move to the back of the round.
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bleedblue94
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22 just makes me always think of Gartner, I would like 41, and I really like your suggestion in 91. That would look sharp
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Obviously, I was just asking what numbers he's worn at different times in his career
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Yeah, but what if 7 of those lower ranked teams reach the next round? Won't happen, but what if it does? And then Carolina loses.
Presumably that means 7 teams ranked higher than Carolina are now out in the first round along with Carolina and would be picking after Carolina.
I defer to Stat Boy but I sure don't understand how we reach this result myself.
Presumably that means 7 teams ranked higher than Carolina are now out in the first round along with Carolina and would be picking after Carolina.
I defer to Stat Boy but I sure don't understand how we reach this result myself.
the Kreiderman chart
Hm, why would any team above Carolina in the standings draft higher than Carolina if both teams loses in the first round? Makes no sense.
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I do not see the Rangers keeping that pick anyway. They should keep it and use it, but if Kakko caused them to accelerate their rebuild, Lafreniere already has them in the retooling stage. Since we all know 18-19-20 year olds will play like they are in their NHL primes, there apparently can be no dilly dallying.
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He would be ideal IF they see him as a center. Correct me if I am wrong but he has mainly been playing wing in Calgary, correct?
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Irishguy42
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There are only 7 teams with higher PTS% than CAR (Pitt also has a higher PTS% but they are in the first 16 picks already), so if the NHL is doing reverse standings by PTS% for those who go out in the first two rounds, CAR goes 20-24. The only weird part is Dallas if they count them as part of the division winners (since they were in the round robin), but that only changes the range to 19-23 instead.
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He's seen spot duty there over the years, with more time spent there this past year, and taken a lot of faceoffs for them.
It's always been a bit of a debate - play him as the top RW, or slide him down as the number 2 center.
Again, I don't know if Calgary has an interest in moving him, regardless of the Rangers interest in him or how good of a fit he might be here.
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So essentially the problem is they are not seeding the picks based on elimination by round, it's grouped by those eliminated in the first two rounds.
That is kinda shitty for us, but oh well.
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Unfortunately, teams typically don't ship out 22/23 year old top six forwards unless something has gone seriously wrong, or they want a king's ransom.
When you start hitting 25, the price remains high, but there are a few more opportunities.
Personally, I'd have no problem with Lindholm's age and this team's make-up.
JimmyG89
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Lindholm rolls on the top line with Monahan and Johnny Hockey. He's the RW on that line. I don't think he has played center in a while. Maybe he did some last year, but I think he was on a line with Lindholm and Tkachuk, which he was also on the wing.
His contract is amazing, but if he is a winger and not a center, I'm not sure it is worth the price it will take to get him. Never know since the last time he was a center was in Carolina as a younger player. Maturing in Calgary could be something he did and he could handle 2C responsibilities.
There will be targets if they are looking, especially in that age range. Hope for chaos in the playoffs and you can get shakeups. We already got Toronto, Edmonton, and Pittsburgh. Another top team misses the 2nd round and more trading partners may open up.
His contract is amazing, but if he is a winger and not a center, I'm not sure it is worth the price it will take to get him. Never know since the last time he was a center was in Carolina as a younger player. Maturing in Calgary could be something he did and he could handle 2C responsibilities.
There will be targets if they are looking, especially in that age range. Hope for chaos in the playoffs and you can get shakeups. We already got Toronto, Edmonton, and Pittsburgh. Another top team misses the 2nd round and more trading partners may open up.
NYR Viper
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Yeah, I know the league is getting younger but 25 seems very young still, especially with his contract set for the next 4 years
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Yeah, if the Rangers view him as a center, he looks ideal behind Zibanejad, especially if we’re talking a 1-for-1 deal involving Buchnevich.
Irishguy42
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That is how it's been for years.
Picks go:
SCF Winner
SCF Loser
Conference final losers in reverse standings order
Division winners who lost in rounds 1&2 in reverse standings order
Round 1 & 2 losers in reverse standings order
Non-lotto winners in reverse standings order
Lotto winners
The only wildcard that doesn't have confirmation is if this year, due to circumstances, they are counting all the Round Robin teams as "Division winners" because 7/8 teams were higher than CAR in the standings, but Dallas wasn't. So if Dallas loses in the first two rounds, but are counted as a division winner since they were in round robin, then the CAR pick is 19-23 range. If division winners are counted as normal, then the range is 20-24.
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i feel Lindholm would flourish here like Mika did. i believe their is more talent in him than people realize.
Aha, I assumed losers in the first round would pick 16-23, but that is of course not the case. My bad.
I am glad I deleted the part about how @Amazing Kreiderman must had smoked crack when he made that table before I posted. It would have been very very embarrassing had I posted that and then been wrong.
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He did center Tkachuk this year as well. Can't give an accurate assessment of how much or how long.
From a style standpoint, he's more of a finisher than a straight playmaker. So in that sense, like Zibanejad, he'd pair well with a playmaking winger.
I mean, in theory, this is a guy you pair with someone like Lafreniere.
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It would cost more than Buch, I can tell you that much.
JimmyG89
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Buch and that Carolina 1st would be in the theoretical deal. That's the start. Maybe another prospect in there, but nothing major.
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