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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLVII

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Tawnos said:
Yeah, I’m not really interested in moving him for draft picks or prospects. Now, as the centerpiece for another young-youngish player of similar or better quality at a position that’s not as organizationally deep? Different story.
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I’d be with that too as well as that proposed 10OA trade. I just don’t think Vancouver makes that move.

Some semblance of continuity and stability is necessary too for these younger players.
 
Trxjw said:
Could be Smith but I think they'll try to do better. Long term they'll probably want a home grown solution but that's a ways off.
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My gut feeling is that the home grown solution lies in the reasoning that Gorton suddenly has a bevy of 7th rounders in the near future.
 
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RangerBoy said:
Two more years of bad hockey and the Rangers should be ready to get rolling again. Another high lottery pick next June. Multiple first round picks.

You need to read more carefully.

The Rangers need a top center and #1 D.

Skjei isn’t that #1 D but the Rangers could get that top center/another 1st line forward at #10.
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Haha I read carefully enough bud

I remember you posting that the rebuild will take another 5-10 years with a popcorn eating emoji, sorry for poking fun at your baiting
 
MetalJaws said:
My day dreams are spiraling out of control. I need the 21st to arrive quickly.

Kreider, Pionk and TBL 2nd for Florida's 13th OA

20th, 13th, Names at 50% to Detroit for 6th OA

Buyout Smith.
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I would not give up Kreider alone for the 13th. Let alone throwing in other picks.

And remind me what harm Smith is doing from the 4th line?
 
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Kreider Zib Buch
Panarin Strome Kakko
Chytil Howden Kravstov
Lemmy Nieves Fast

Skjei DeAngelo
Staal Trouba
Hajek Shattenkirk
 
Mac n Gs said:
I’d be with that too as well as that proposed 10OA trade. I just don’t think Vancouver makes that move.

Some semblance of continuity and stability is necessary too for these younger players.
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Re: continuity. From my perspective, if you’re doing this kind of stuff, you either trade Skjei or you trade Kreider. Not both.
 
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Alluckks said:
Kreider Zib Buch
Panarin Strome Kakko
Chytil Howden Kravstov
Lemmy Nieves Fast

Skjei DeAngelo
Staal Trouba
Hajek Shattenkirk
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We’re Re-Signing Kreider (7x7), and signing Panarin (11x7)? 18m combined when Kravtsov and Kakko will be here next year?

We’re also trading for Trouba and playing him on out 2nd pair?

What is this lineup accomplishing? It’s not a playoff team. Nor is it a team that’ll have us picking in the top-10 next year.

Who did we move for Trouba, btw? Andersson and Pionk lol?
 
DutchShamrock said:
If eberle and his agent have conservative outlook on the market, that was a smart deal. High likelihood players of Eberle's caliber get squeezed. Duchene, EK and Panarin will cash in, the RFAs will cash in. But money will tight after that.

Maybe this lends some clarity to Zuccarello and he gets comfortable with a Dallas offer.
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If a player like Eberle is concerned he will get squeezed, perhaps Zuccarello's agent will take notice and have him sign in Dallas for fear of the same thing. I considered them in similar tiers.
 
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Kupo said:
We’re Re-Signing Kreider (7x7), and signing Panarin (11x7)? 18m combined when Kravtsov and Kakko will be here next year?

We’re also trading for Trouba and playing him on out 2nd pair?

What is this lineup accomplishing? It’s not a playoff team. Nor is it a team that’ll have us picking in the top-10 next year.

Who did we move for Trouba, btw? Andersson and Pionk lol?
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It is a made up scenario, I didn’t overthink it

And yes that would definitely be a playoff team

Edit: Eberle just signs for 5.5, so Kreider 6 per for 5 years; Panarin at 11x6
Andersson+Lundkvist for Trouba
Names and Vesey shipped out
 
ZuccsFluffierFluffer said:
We have room to take on a ton of money from Vegas.

Reeves+Miller would clear like 6 million in space for them.

Reeves+Miller+17 for #20. I'd take back Clarkson too if they need him to be moved.

Pionk+Kreider to AZ for 14+Christian Fischer.
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NYR Viper said:
I think the only way Vegas moves back from 17 is if they attach Clarkson to the deal. And honestly, Miller and Reaves have positive value I am sure around the league so I am not sure we would see a Miller + Reaves + Clarkson + #17 for #20. Probably more like:

Reaves + Miller + Clarkson for Gropp + Pedrie (cancel out # of contracts)
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Not that I'm dissing either of these deals but serious question why are we going to take on Clarkson contract to move up 3 draft positions ? I get we can put Clarkson on LTD but I guess this is the cost of doing business.

Vegas is cap hell so I would rather personally try to get number 17 by taking on Clarkson without given up number 20.
 
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Alluckks said:
It is a made up scenario, I didn’t overthink it

And yes that would definitely be a playoff team

Edit: Eberle just signs for 5.5, so Kreider 6 per for 5 years; Panarin at 11x6
Andersson+Lundkvist for Trouba
Names and Vesey shipped out
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After wanting Sandin at the draft I'm warming up to Lundkvist and think it would be a mistake to trade him. He is projected to get some real good/important minutes next year in the Swedish league. Let him keep marinating and no doubt he could really be ready for the NHL in 2020-2021 or 2021-2022
 
True Blue said:
I would not give up Kreider alone for the 13th. Let alone throwing in other picks.

And remind me what harm Smith is doing from the 4th line?
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I'm on the Trouba and/or Panarin Bandwagon. We could use the money for that. Also, the Rangers Organization has a lot of 4th line options for way less with more production, speed and skill.
 
bl02 said:
After wanting Sandin at the draft I'm warming up to Lundkvist and think it would be a mistake to trade him. He is projected to get some real good/important minutes next year in the Swedish league. Let him keep marinating and no doubt he could really be ready for the NHL in 2020-2021 or 2021-2022
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I like him too, I’m just throwin crap at a wall
 
One thing we do know is that Winnipeg is never ever quick to make a deal; so, while we certainly will hear a bunch of rumblings, I don’t expect anything imminent to happen. But, we’ve heard other teams wanna wait on Winnipeg to see what is done there - which could end up causing quite the logjam when it comes to trades/moves.
 
TheKingsCourt said:
The only thing this entire boards agrees on is that we need to improve our D core, and your solution is trading our best Dman for Trevor Zegras (who i love very much). What then? Sign Gardiner for a more expensive deal than Skjei for lesser play?
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Yeah me too
 
Alluckks said:
It is a made up scenario, I didn’t overthink it

And yes that would definitely be a playoff team

Edit: Eberle just signs for 5.5, so Kreider 6 per for 5 years; Panarin at 11x6
Andersson+Lundkvist for Trouba
Names and Vesey shipped out
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It's a bubble team at best. No serious playoff contender would have Marc Staal in the top 4 and he would completely neutralize the positives that Trouba would bring.

The contracts for Kreider and Panarin are not realistic. Kreider is not taking a lesser deal than Brock Nelson if he signs this summer, Panarin is getting a 7th year.

It's Kreider or Panarin, not Kreider and Panarin.
 
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