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I'm very aware of what the likely scenarios are and I've posted about them a ton; forgive me if I post one random lineup without context
Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLVII
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SingnBluesOnBroadway
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Staals not leaving his Expenive CT Digs and relocating his family.
But why do you want Staal to leave? You love him and think he’s still a good hockey player.
I don't hate him, but we need to move on with the rebuild.
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No, right now the board is in "every other post except mine and those that agree with mine are trash" mode right now
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DutchShamrock
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Well, Kreider has the time to wait that Eberle doesn't. If CK doesn't get what he is looking for, he can just play out this year and test UFA next summer. Eberle is facing down an unprecedented summer of massive RFA contracts.
if Kreider has plateaued then why is his salary supposed to drastically increase? right now he is at 4.65 mil his type of production usually is around 5.5 mil. We shouldn't pay more than 6.25 mil
He just had the worst statistical year of his career.
Leverage was not something he had a ton of.
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Sure, but God knows how you'd do it. He's an overpaid #4D on most teams without PP skills. His biggest strengths are skating and not doing really stupid things.
But the Rangers need guys who can play minutes with pace, and he can do that. So he's valuable to THEM but I don't see the appeal on the other end where they'd surrender chances at transformative talent for someone who's Just A Guy.
Tawnos
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I will always associate that song with the 1994 Rangers. I think it was in one of the Cup videos.
seriously? to get him off the roster so that young players could play? I don't care what we get back in return.
My 4th as it stands now would be Vesey/Names/Fast with Boo as 13th. Or we try to get rid of Shatty now and keep Smith another year as 14th F / 8th D, not opposed to that but he doesn’t dress as it stands now imo.
NYR Viper
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Hey guys, the market value for $3M in cap is a 1st round pick. You don't need to swap picks if you are taking back a contract like that.
IMO the Rangers would be better served getting a Haula or Eakins... shorter team, and they insulate the middle six center position so a kid isn't thrown to the wolves.
Vegas' has a pair in Hague and Whitecloud who would be an NHL ready tandem. If you are bailing them on defense, then you need to consider that Miller's 3 years on the cap needs to come with a premium.
A swap of 20 & 17 isn't good enough.
If you're taking on those extra years, then have it be Pionk & a 2021 mid rounder, for Miller and the 17th.
Vegas needs 1 year of relief, and the Rangers can afford to take on 1 year of dead cap space. In 2021, the Rangers are wide open with the Cap. The question is if they start loading up this year, or next.
If this is another asset accumulation year, then have it be for 1 year.
IMO the Rangers would be better served getting a Haula or Eakins... shorter team, and they insulate the middle six center position so a kid isn't thrown to the wolves.
Vegas' has a pair in Hague and Whitecloud who would be an NHL ready tandem. If you are bailing them on defense, then you need to consider that Miller's 3 years on the cap needs to come with a premium.
A swap of 20 & 17 isn't good enough.
If you're taking on those extra years, then have it be Pionk & a 2021 mid rounder, for Miller and the 17th.
Vegas needs 1 year of relief, and the Rangers can afford to take on 1 year of dead cap space. In 2021, the Rangers are wide open with the Cap. The question is if they start loading up this year, or next.
If this is another asset accumulation year, then have it be for 1 year.
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I thought you were reacting to RangerBoy's proposal of Skjei for the 10th pick.
Based on what?
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I think its general frustration with the knowledge that no matter how many times different people write "buy out Smith, trade Shattenkirk @ 50%" we're stuck with the same general defense we had this past year until 2021.
This goes back to the Malahkhov precedent, and the Rangers used this in the Zibanajed deal. In actual salary, the Rangers paid an additional $2M on Brassard, saving the Sens money. 2nd rounders are for $2M in salary, and that's the reason why the Rangers got an extra 2nd round pick in the Zibanajad deal.
CLB ponied up a 1st and a 2nd to Vegas to take on Clarkson. Clarkson is owed $3 & change in real dollars this year, thus the 1st.
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A second round draft choice is worth $2-3MM. Reference point -- the timing of the Mika Zibanejad trade. Taking on the contract to move up three spots sounds like a fair deal. It makes it a little tougher to maneuver through the summer but not impossible. It may be part of a bigger deal though. Vegas cap is really a mess.
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