Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLVII

[LiveLongandProspal]

Anyone see this?

 

[Kovalev27]

I’m officially terrified

 

[GAGLine]

I don't think that quote is big enough lol.

Yes, it has been discussed already.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Anyone see this?

Well, one thing is certain, he will be available at 2. Why not go ahead and buy the suit.

 

[NYR Viper]

Under the radar move but I’d be just fine moving a 3rd to get Ryan Reaves in NY.

Find other ways to replenish picks but he’s a guy who changes an entire dynamic of a team and someone who would be useful for the next 3-4 years on the 4th line.

Vegas needs cap space. The Rangers made a similar move for McQuaid. Reaves makes more sense as he’s a forward.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I’m officially terrified

Of course you are.

They aren’t taking him #2.

 

[Beer League Sniper]

It may have counted against the players' share. I don't recall.

Yes, if they get rid of the escalator, that will likely result in more of a flat cap. It will still go up as revenue goes up, but without the artificial inflation.

It's going to be a tough sell not using the escalator. It essentially helps players with existing contracts with escrow (escrow % generally goes down as the cap moves more in line with actual revenue), at the expense of current FAs (less $$ for teams to spend). The elite and top-tier FAs don't feel the pinch, but that next tier down gets gutted.

I think we'll see a middle ground, with the players opting for a 2-3% escalator, rather than the full 5%.

 

[Off Sides]

It's going to be a tough sell not using the escalator. It essentially helps players with existing contracts with escrow (escrow % generally goes down as the cap moves more in line with actual revenue), at the expense of current FAs (less $$ for teams to spend). The elite and top-tier FAs don't feel the pinch, but that next tier down gets gutted.

I think we'll see a middle ground, with the players opting for a 2-3% escalator, rather than the full 5%.

Sure yet if they are going to complain about escrow there are only so many ways to change it so it comes in more closely reflecting the year end revenue split.

 

[SA16]

Under the radar move but I’d be just fine moving a 3rd to get Ryan Reaves in NY.

Find other ways to replenish picks but he’s a guy who changes an entire dynamic of a team and someone who would be useful for the next 3-4 years on the 4th line.

Vegas needs cap space. The Rangers made a similar move for McQuaid. Reaves makes more sense as he’s a forward.

The only problem with Ryan Reaves is that he's a terrible hockey player.

There are good tough guys. We may have one in Lemieux. Why do we have to go after the ones who can't play?

 

[Kovalev27]

Lot of Vesey stuff today in the twitter verse including him requesting a trade and it not being the first time.

Not cut out for NYC I guess

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

I’m officially terrified

You must be tough to live with.

 

[Tawnos]

Sure yet if they are going to complain about escrow there are only so many ways to change it so it comes in more closely reflecting the year end revenue split.

The best idea to get it in line, IMO, is to make the payroll range asymmetric, where the ceiling isn't as far above the midpoint as the floor is below.

The reason escrow has exploded is that teams spend well over the midpoint. I think last year there were 25 teams over the midpoint and 6 below it.

 

[Kovalev27]

You must be tough to live with.

My wife would probably agree

 

[Vitto79]

Lot of Vesey stuff today in the twitter verse including him requesting a trade and it not being the first time.

Not cut out for NYC I guess

Kinda funny Hayes goes and now this is the rumour

 

[TheBloodyNine]

RA from Spittin' Chiclets dropping some heat on twitter, saying that Jimmy Vesey won't be wearing a Rangers jersey to start the next season. He's got some sources.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

These rumors are not being circulated by anyone with legitimate sources.

Vesey is an obvious trade candidate, probably the most obvious one on the roster.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

RA from Spittin' Chiclets dropping some heat on twitter, saying that Jimmy Vesey won't be wearing a Rangers jersey to start the next season. He's got some sources.

Ok this is a bit more legitimate. Thought the rumors were in regards to NHLrumorsdaily or what ever that account is called.

PZ out Jimmy, SONK!.

 

[GAGLine]

Kinda funny Hayes goes and now this is the rumour

What are you referring to?

 

[Off Sides]

The best idea to get it in line, IMO, is to make the payroll range asymmetric, where the ceiling isn't as far above the midpoint as the floor is below.

The reason escrow has exploded is that teams spend well over the midpoint. I think last year there were 25 teams over the midpoint and 6 below it.

I don't know, seems to me like the best way to reduce non returned player escrow would be to use lower growth revenue projections, which is basically the opposite of what the escalator is

 

[Kovalev27]

I’d be surprised if Vesey is a Ranger by COB today. They don’t like stuff like this coming out and negatively casting a shadow on the org.

 

[Tawnos]

I don't know, seems to me like the best way to reduce non returned player escrow would be to use lower growth revenue projections.

I'm trying to refresh my memory, but I'm pretty sure that the pre-escalator figure is determined solely off of last year's revenue. They don't project growth as part of that. The escalator is in place to anticipate growth, but that number isn't actually that large. If the escalator gets pegged at 5% and the league grows by 3%, that's only a 2% overprojection.

Meanwhile, total league payroll FAR exceeds the midpoint.

 

[Off Sides]

I'm trying to refresh my memory, but I'm pretty sure that the pre-escalator figure is determined solely off of last year's revenue. They don't project growth as part of that. The escalator is in place to anticipate growth, but that number isn't actually that large. If the escalator gets pegged at 5% and the league grows by 3%, that's only a 2% overprojection.

Meanwhile, total league payroll FAR exceeds the midpoint.

It too just looked that up

Here is the pertaining part

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There will be more conversation about the 2019-20 salary cap next week in Las Vegas, where the Board of Governors meet the day before the NHL Awards. After the combine, several teams indicated they thought the cap might be closer to $82M than the previously projected $83M. The players have the option to raise the ceiling up to five per cent, but, with concerns about escrow, lifted it 1.25 per cent for last season, and a similar number is expected this time around.

Another interesting tidbit involves the U.S. TV deal, which is up in two seasons. The Sports Business Journal reported the possibility of a split deal, with NBC keeping the majority and a new partner (ESPN? FOX?) getting a smaller package. Teams are hopeful about what that could do to the cap, especially with Seattle entering the NHL.

31 Thoughts: Sharks still have shot at keeping Erik Karlsson - Sportsnet.ca


I thought they used a much higher percentage of the escalator. Although lifted it I'm not sure if means they only used 1.25%,, of it they used 1.25% more than whatever they used last time around.

 

[Avery16]

I’d be surprised if Vesey is a Ranger by COB today. They don’t like stuff like this coming out and negatively casting a shadow on the org.

I mean, they probably don’t give a shit about what people say on Twitter, though

Neither should we

 

[Edge]

These rumors are not being circulated by anyone with legitimate sources.

Vesey is an obvious trade candidate, probably the most obvious one on the roster.

Yeah, I have no idea what is or isn't being said on Twitter right now, but Vesey being a trade candidate is not really news or something that should come as a surprise.

The Rangers will most likely have two rookie wingers on the roster next season, and there's been chatter of wanting to stay flexible as the season progresses. That means players who can potentially play multiple positions, different roles, and play on different lines. It doesn't mean those guys are untouchable, but it does mean the Rangers would likely be more open to move a guy like Vesey than Names, Strome, etc. at this point.

 

[Tawnos]

It too just looked that up

Here is the pertaining part



31 Thoughts: Sharks still have shot at keeping Erik Karlsson - Sportsnet.ca


I thought they used a much higher percentage of the escalator. Although lifted it I'm not sure if means they only used 1.25%,, of it they used 1.25% more than whatever they used last time around.

It's 1.25% total. The players have the option to use whatever number they want as the escalator up to 5%.