Why does it have to be at the expense of ADA? I love ADA :/
One bad round robin does not make a career.
Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLVI
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One bad round robin does not make a career.
Fitzy
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I don't think it has to do with personal dislike of ADA, but more of circumstance.
Right now we have a highly paid #1 right defenseman with a no trade clause, and an up and coming defenseman in Fox. Both are solid offensively and defensively.
ADA is a dynamic offensive defenseman, but is about to get paid on what could be a career year, and is decidedly more one dimensional than the other two.
So insofar as we are 'dealing from a position of strength', DeAngelo makes the most sense. Among the forwards, trading Strome probably makes sense for similar reasons, though he doesn't have even close to the same value.
Rangers394
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This is without any lottery wins or anything, just a Georgiev trade to Minnesota and Strome gone.
Kreider-Zibanejad-Buchnevich
Panarin-Chytil-Kakko
Lemieux-Greenway-Fast
?-Howden-Gauthier
I put Chytil on line 2 since i think we need to figure out if he will be a wing or center. If he isn't going to be a center, we will need to figure out a way to get one and put him at wing and move someone else.
Not sure who plays 4th line LW but i don't want to see Digiuseppe or McKegg there. Maybe a rookie makes the team or we bring in a reclamation project of some sort.
Kreider-Zibanejad-Buchnevich
Panarin-Chytil-Kakko
Lemieux-Greenway-Fast
?-Howden-Gauthier
I put Chytil on line 2 since i think we need to figure out if he will be a wing or center. If he isn't going to be a center, we will need to figure out a way to get one and put him at wing and move someone else.
Not sure who plays 4th line LW but i don't want to see Digiuseppe or McKegg there. Maybe a rookie makes the team or we bring in a reclamation project of some sort.
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
Greenway isn't a center, he's a LW.
And I think Strome stays, and probably should stay. As frustrating as he is, Panarin-Strome-Fast was a 60% xG line in over 500 minutes. Unless they are making a play for Barkov or something.
I can respect that, but the point is that Nylander is a gifted offensive player who plays in a favorable situation, and he's proven to be a 60 point player. The Rangers have a couple of guys who are in the ~top 5 in league scoring (goals/points) who play on two different lines. You have a pair or more of 40+ point defensemen, and two guys who have hit 50 in the NHL.
Chytil, Kakko, maybe one of the other kids can also take another offensive step no?
So that being said, I tend to disagree that the Rangers need secondary scoring. If there is one thing the Rangers can project forward as being a strength, it's scoring, and scoring across different forward units and defensive pairs.
I lean far more heavily in having guys who are competently reliable in situational 5v5 play. Meaning if some of the depth pieces like Howden, Lias, Gauthier, Lemeuix, Hajek can't show that they are an NHL option in a role that the team needs, and are good at it... then you have to consider trading them for other options, or picks to serve as trade currency.
I think a lot of us are patient. We really don’t want to see gorton to jump the gun just to try to get two home playoff games.
To me , it’s a shame that there’s two kinds of hockey. Regular season where players aren’t evidently going full tilt trying to survive a long season where we see a more open style of play. Come playoffs, it’s do or die and thusly less time and space to setup plays. When I read prospect bios, I am attracted to someone who can make plays in tight areas or has a motor. Lets hope we draft or trade for more of those types in the future.
And yes, pens or oilers win tonight, I’m out.
Rangers394
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Put Greenway at LW on the 3rd line with Lemieux at 4 and then get a 3rd line center.
only reason i let Strome go is so we can see if Chytil is ready to take that 2nd center spot.
Probably right about Strome returning though.
BBKers
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Yeah, I think so too. 1-2 year deal. Gorton are comfortable with them. In this case I don’t mind it at all.
Why? I think any Strome trade would be about taking a step sideways/backwards to take a step forward down the road. Capitalize on Strome in a trade because we don’t want to pay him long-term.
But that line with Strome will perform. It’s not that, the question is if we want to pay Strome and lose other guys. We probably don’t. But I don’t think Gorton is willing to make the team worse next season to immoderately cash in on Strome.
Some thoughts.
1. Hank retires. Please.
2. Resign Strome, 1-2 years.
3. Trade one of Kravy or Buch. Don’t think there is room for both. You make your own bed. We must invest in Kravy to get something. Sure one could move to LW, but at the same time — Buch’s next contract will be expensive. I like both, but I don’t think we can have both in this case. If we keep Buch, Kravy won’t develop.
4. I am definitely not against trading Filip Chytil if we can get a piece for him that fits us better. I think the balance is a bit off among our forwards. Too many bigger bodies, we need faster feets. More playmaking ability. I wouldn’t rule out Chytil taking a few more steps in his development, but by my best bet he could be a good trading chip if we get something to bid for that makes a lot of sense.
4. As Custance touch upon in that The Athletic article, some teams could be looking to shed salary. There could be some interesting names available.
Little has materialized yet, but the off-season will be long. If we have chips like Kravy/Buch, Chytil, Nils Lundkvist and others to move around, along with cap space, Gorton should be able to do some damage.
5. I don’t think anything is done at LD.
1. Hank retires. Please.
2. Resign Strome, 1-2 years.
3. Trade one of Kravy or Buch. Don’t think there is room for both. You make your own bed. We must invest in Kravy to get something. Sure one could move to LW, but at the same time — Buch’s next contract will be expensive. I like both, but I don’t think we can have both in this case. If we keep Buch, Kravy won’t develop.
4. I am definitely not against trading Filip Chytil if we can get a piece for him that fits us better. I think the balance is a bit off among our forwards. Too many bigger bodies, we need faster feets. More playmaking ability. I wouldn’t rule out Chytil taking a few more steps in his development, but by my best bet he could be a good trading chip if we get something to bid for that makes a lot of sense.
4. As Custance touch upon in that The Athletic article, some teams could be looking to shed salary. There could be some interesting names available.
Little has materialized yet, but the off-season will be long. If we have chips like Kravy/Buch, Chytil, Nils Lundkvist and others to move around, along with cap space, Gorton should be able to do some damage.
5. I don’t think anything is done at LD.
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Change is good.
Raspewtin
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charliemurphy
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Everything should be on the table to move up and get someone like Lundell including moving DeAngelo, Georgiev, Strome Buch along with the other 1st rounder where ever it lands.
NYSPORTS
back afta dis. . .
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no way Strome should be resigned long term now.
heck, zibby could be in question. They’ll need a $120 million dollar payroll
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Buch + for a Center.
We have a lot of talent on the wings. We need a Center that excels on the defensive side while not being a potato on the offensive side
We have a lot of talent on the wings. We need a Center that excels on the defensive side while not being a potato on the offensive side
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
Not sure the Rangers are itching to trade Buch right now unless:
1. They think they can play Lafreniere on the right side.
2. They think they can play Chytil on the right sight.
3. They get a RW back in a trade.
1. They think they can play Lafreniere on the right side.
2. They think they can play Chytil on the right sight.
3. They get a RW back in a trade.
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GeorgeKaplan
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Ok fresh off the high of the lottery win. Moves need to be made for another top 6 center. Glut of talent on the wing. Who to target? Keller off a bad season? Any other names stand out as trade targets?
Kocur Dill
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Is kreider on RW out of the question?
With such a limited toolbox to begin with, I'd like to see if he could LH snipe Top shelf/hip blocker right coming off the circle/wall as an addition to his know equity of Rush-in and Net-front plays.
Can we please stop with the Kreider trade posts. It aint happening. We just signed him to a multi year deal with a NTC. Its a waste of time posting this.
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