Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLVI

[Leetch3]

considering that kjellberg was only drafted as a favor to his dad, I doubt we have to worry about him leaving school early. he will need that accounting degree for his first job

 

[Thirty One]

considering that kjellberg was only drafted as a favor to his dad, I doubt we have to worry about him leaving school early. he will need that accounting degree for his first job

It's a noble profession.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Bad coaching, then a coaching change. Blues were an insanely talented and deep team on paper. I doubt that phenomenon occurs with us.

Jake Allen is also a really bad goalie

 

[Avery16]

Jake Allen is also a really bad goalie

Oh yeah. This also.

 

[Calad]

Bad coaching, then a coaching change. Blues were an insanely talented and deep team on paper. I doubt that phenomenon occurs with us.

I'm well aware how talented the roster was. I had them as favorites out of the west to start the season, doesn't change the fact that they BOMBED it in 2018 and a really bad start can be overcome.

 

[Vitto79]

So do you take the Flyers 11 for Kreider or no way cause it’s Philly?

 

[Vitto79]

i can assure everyone on this form if the rangers are not in the playoffs in 5 years, quinn will certainly be gone and gorton very may well be too. playoffs in 2-3 years, deep runs in 3-5. mark my words lol as if it matters

Yea guys will get fired .....2 more misses imo then back in the playoffs. It’s a realistic goal

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

So do you take the Flyers 11 for Kreider or no way cause it’s Philly?

I would not say no to a good deal just because it's a division rival. You take the best deal on the table

 

[frisland]

considering that kjellberg was only drafted as a favor to his dad, I doubt we have to worry about him leaving school early. he will need that accounting degree for his first job

Its the NHL, his first job will be working with his dad, then NYR will hire him as a scout...

 

[True Blue]

Well in june that year he stated they were rebuilding so you would think so

Yes, I have acknowledged and corrected my mistake.

 

[RangerBoy]

It's already June 11. Soon the rubber will meet the road. All of this hypothetical discussion will become real.

 

[LORDE]

At some point those of us pushing the build and patience etc will get itchy feet also (unlike some folks here hyperbolize, that we want to REBUILD FOREVER!!!)

Kreider is really the last big piece... after that deal... trade decisions become much more murky because they will involve young players that we had (high?) hopes for.

It’s at that point that the real rolling of the sleeves up will have to begin.

 

[kinger8998]

Yea guys will get fired .....2 more misses imo then back in the playoffs. It’s a realistic goal

i can say this is reasonable, but wouldnt be shocked if its 1 miss and a surprise entrance also

 

[eco's bones]

Parayko isn't even that nasty.

He has been throughout the playoffs but it's not his M.O.

 

[UnSandvich]

Perreault & WPG 2nd for either TBL 2nd or NYR 3rd, who says no?

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Perreault & WPG 2nd for either TBL 2nd or NYR 3rd, who says no?

Winnipeg trades a player AND a better 2nd to....move down in the draft?

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

I am still not believing they are fully committed to a rebuild, just look at last year where we were rebuilding without any pressure and Lindgren and Hajek only got a handful of games with the Rangers. The acquisition of McQuaid and signing of Claesson instead of playing our prospects was a telling sign.

Now with JD as the president, there will likely be more urgency to return to playoffs.

And a very stupid move would be to trade #20 for some veteran player like this article suggests: Looking At the Rangers Options in the Trade Market

The timing of the Fox trade also showed lack of patience and lack of cunning. That 2nd round pick we gave up we could have easily scooped up a great prospect that slipped out of 1st round just like we could have but did not do last Draft.

 

[Leetch3]

I am still not believing they are fully committed to a rebuild, just look at last year where we were rebuilding without any pressure and Lindgren and Hajek only got a handful of games with the Rangers. The acquisition of McQuaid and signing of Claesson instead of playing our prospects was a telling sign.

Now with JD as the president, there will likely be more urgency to return to playoffs.

And a very stupid move would be to trade #20 for some veteran player like this article suggests: Looking At the Rangers Options in the Trade Market

rebuilding does not mean playing kids before they are ready or earn a spot just for the sake of claiming you are playing more kids. I think we had the youngest team in the league

 

[UnSandvich]

Winnipeg trades a player AND a better 2nd to....move down in the draft?

They're in a cap crunch. Need to resign Laine, Myers, Connor, possibly Trouba, and more besides. Perreault spent most of the season in the bottom 6 (aTOI 12:14) and is making over 4 million for the next 2 years.

Effectively they move down a couple slots to clear 4m off the cap

 

[TheBloodyNine]

They're in a cap crunch. Need to resign Laine, Myers, Connor, possibly Trouba, and more besides. Perreault spent most of the season in the bottom 6 (aTOI 12:14) and is making over 4 million for the next 2 years.

Effectively they move down a couple slots to clear 4m off the cap

Yeah, that's not happening.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Rutherford saying that Kessel's not likely to be traded at this point. Should open up some more suitors for Kreider's services. (According to an Athletic Article).

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

So do you take the Flyers 11 for Kreider or no way cause it’s Philly?

I take the 11 and go Boldy/Newhook or package the 11/20 for Cozens/Zegras

 

[Ola]

Judging by how absolutely miserable St Louis was until the new year, and here they are heading to game 7 of the stanley cup finals, I can't quite agree with all of this. Hell come the deadline we were only a couple points back from a wildcard spot. I think with the parity in the league a lot of the focus is on how the team plays down the stretch, as this is when separation is truly made in the standings (and the rosters, with TDL acquisitions.

Personally I agree regarding expectations, if this team misses playoffs the next 2-3 seasons I wouldn't be shocked in the slightest. I would be shocked if they aren't a visibly improved club, however.

Of course, and just to be clear, I am not saying that we will not be able to get out of the rebuild fast. I am just saying that it can be really hard and that we must be prepared to respect the process and acknowledge that. That is the hard part, AINEC. Gathering talent, who can't do that? All you need to do is suck.

My point is just, its not necessarily up to Gorton to decide when we are supposed to get out of the rebuild like we are assuming right now. Just looking around the league and back in time, being able to get out of a rebuild and back into the POs in three-four years is definitely not a given. And many teams have seemingly been in a fantastic position to do well without getting it done. How long before Buffalo can get into the POs the next time, when is there rebuild "over"? Eichel, Dahlin, Reinhart and co. Colorado missed the POs for 3 years, then had a 112 pts season, and then misses the POs for another 3 years. Landeskog at 2 in 11', MacKinnon at 1OA in 13' and so forth. Its now 2019 and they made the POs for the first time in 4 years. Are we in a better position now than Colorado were in 13'? It took 6 years for them -- IF -- we assume that they will be a PO team from now on. Who knows.

Like I said, the hard part is not to get a top prospect or two, its just traditionally hard to get back into and establish yourself as a contender.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Rutherford saying that Kessel's not likely to be traded at this point. Should open up some more suitors for Kreider's services. (According to an Athletic Article).

Paging Mr. Chayka...a Mr. Gorton would like to speak with you.

 

[LaffyTaffy]

Rutherford saying that Kessel's not likely to be traded at this point. Should open up some more suitors for Kreider's services. (According to an Athletic Article).

Is the Kreider part also mentioned in the article or is that our conclusion given the former piece of news?