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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLV

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rangers1314 said:
If it were just that easy.

IIRC, Lias was seen by many as a "safe pick". His ceiling wasn't as high as a few left on the board but it was seen by many as having a floor of a 3C.
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Yup that was kind of a gamble in that he wasnt projected to go until later in the draft.
 
GoAwayStaal said:
It’s a thing for next year.

beyond that? I’m not buying it.
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Well there are specific mechanisms for an increasing cap after next year.

No one should be assuming one way or the other. It all depends on how things go next season, revenue wise. If they get back to normal, I’m sure we’ll see increases.
 
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GoAwayStaal said:
It’s a thing for next year.

beyond that? I’m not buying it.
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It doesn't work like that though.

If HRR doesn't hit certain benchmarks, it could very well sit at that number. And even if revenue does hit the benchmarks, the system they put in place only allows for a 1 million increase in the cap the following year
 
Loki Dog 74 said:
I see a lot of talk that seems to want to fix everything wrong with the roster in one offseason. The way I see it, we simply aren’t likely to see large change.

Realistically, we are probably going into next season with:

Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider, Strome, Buchnevich, Kakko, Chytil, Howden, Lemieux, Gauthier, DiGiuseppe, Kravstov, Barron (?)

As forwards. Could Strome be moved? Sure, but if the Rangers aren’t interested in bringing him back, I feel that’s a red flag to any buyer who’d be willing to part with value in acquiring him, so realistically, what’s the trade market look like? Unlikely he’s moved unless it’s in an unexpected larger package. Could Buch be moved? Sure, but unless it’s the result of other moves, I don’t see it. Sure, Kravstov may not make the team, DiGiuseppe may not be brought back (I just have him there because he’ll be cheap depth to re-sign). Maybe a veteran is brought in, but realistically, that’s the group.

And on D, realistically it’s:

Trouba, Fox, DeAngelo, Lindgren, Smith, Staal, Hajek, Miller (?)

Do I think the team wants to address the left side? Yes, I think it’s the most likely place we focus and the most likely deal to result in a package that would involve Strome or a ripple effect that would cause other deals to be made. If we don’t make a deal addressing it, I see us mostly standing pat. Could DeAngelo be moved? It’s possible but it’s similar to the Strome situation. He has one amazing year and all indications of being an elite PMD, but if we’re unwilling to commit to him, buyers will be wary as well. He’s valuable, but everyone will want a discount due to short track record, last issues, etc. Can we actually maximize value in a rerun that makes it worth it? As far as Smith/Staal? It’s possible they could find a taker for Smith at 50% to create some cap space, but it would also actually make the current depth worse so unless another move is made, I can’t see it. Staal could be bought out. It’s tough to imagine it finally happening, but if anyone is bought out this summer, that would be my guess.

Shesty and Hank are going to be the goalies. Georgiev needs a raise, has more value in a trade than Hank and probably doesn’t want to be a backup through his prime years behind Igor. He’ll be moved. Hank is extremely unlikely to be bought out. I believe he backs up Igor and plays out his contract.

Essentially, that means we’re likely to stand pat, see if any kids like Kravstov, Barron, Miller, Jones, etc. can make the club, hope for improvement from Chytil, Kakko, Fox, etc. and wait for Lundqvist and the other dead weight to fall off the books the following year before making any significant moves. Another year of development, plus knowing that in one more year the cap situation changes fairly significantly in terms of wiggle room, means I think Gorton will take the patient approach.

The most drastic things I could foresee being realistic this summer would be Staal being bought out and Georgiev being moved for an NHL ready bottom pairing LD. Otherwise, I am expecting to go into next season looking largely identical to this year and hoping for improvement and contributions from the kids, backed by a full year of Shesterkin.
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Nice post. I see things similarly ultimately. There was a ton of turnover last year, I expect this offseason to be a lot less active.
 
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I think people should drastically lower their expectations on Miller for next year.

If the team is serious about actually wanting to make the playoffs, they need to get someone competent to play LD. Whether that be a longer term solution, or someone short term like Nemeth, it needs to be done.
 
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Oscar Lindberg said:
I think people should drastically lower their expectations on Miller for next year.

If the team is serious about actually wanting to make the playoffs, they need to get someone competent to play LD. Whether that be a longer term solution, or someone short term like Nemeth, it needs to be done.
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Nemeth would be excellent but he's not the guy who would play next to Trouba. But he would solidify the other 4 spots.
 
rangers1314 said:
If it were just that easy.

IIRC, Lias was seen by many as a "safe pick". His ceiling wasn't as high as a few left on the board but it was seen by many as having a floor of a 3C.
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It is that easy if we get the #1 pick. There is no1 in this years draft or last years that is close to Lafrieniere
 
Didn't someone say something the other day about LA doing something off the wall with the #2 pick? Forgot what the exact phrasing was but Askarov would certainly be a doozy. That being said I find it hard to believe there wouldn't be a trade down opportunity with someone at 5/6/7 who really wants one of the top-3 guys.
 
DanielBrassard said:
Dubi had better hands, and was better at protecting the puck than Chytil has show this far. Chytil needs to improve in those two areas if he's going to reach his ceiling. Not saying he's on the chopping block he's still very young obviously. But I'm skeptical of the idea of him being a top-6 center next season.
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Dubi was still playing for the Portland Winterhawks when he was the age Chytil is now.
 
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Chalfdiggity3 said:
Well Pitt did do it with M.A.F
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That was a ballsy pick considering the team was on their way to Kansas City. They left E. Staal on the board but scooped Biz Nasty and Carcillo to corner the market on toughness :)
I think the Luongo pick was actually not a horrible pick but trading him to draft another goalie that high was just foolhardy.
 
Irishguy42 said:
Askarov being taken at 2 would be incredibly foolish.
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Don't disagree, why I asked.

He is however a lock to go in the top 10-12 through, no? I wonder how far back LA would be willing to go if they were indeed gunning for him.

I figured Ottawa would be the team that would look to package their 3rd 1st ++ to move up and nab him.
 
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