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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLV

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I actually think Buch gets a lot of crap here but looking at this lineup I think it would be wise to try and move him+ for a C and then in the future slide up all the RWs. And for those who don't want to resign Fast, our 3rd and 4th lines are going to be pretty bad again.
 
Avery16 said:
Here's a question: Does Lafreniere bump Kreider down to 3LW?
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i think we need a lot to go right before we can start shifting lines. Yeah, we have a 12.5% chance to have this discussion and a 87.5% to not have.
 
Chytilmania said:
Kreider-Zib-Buch
Panarin-Strome-KK
Fast-Chytil-VK
Lemieux-Howden-Gauthier

I actually think Buch gets a lot of crap here but looking at this lineup I think it would be wise to try and move him+ for a C and then in the future slide up all the RWs. And for those who don't want to resign Fast, our 3rd and 4th lines are going to be pretty bad again.
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I am not against this, but I think a major viewpoint from Gorton’s POV is — next year, shall we be weaker or stronger than this last season?

It may sound a little theoretical. But I definitely it’s a major framework that Gorton operates within for the mental status of the organization. Are we taking a step forward or backward? Do we take what we had last season, subtract Skjei and Buch, and enter next season with a weaker team?

The big X factor here is of course that we have a young roster that should improve even in light of personnel subtractions. But I do think that Gorton will pay a lot of attention to our ability to be somewhat competitive from Day 1. If we are out of the POs for good three weeks into the season it’s not good.
 
Avery16 said:
What do you want to talk about today?
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unfortunately, i think we have a lot to worry about. I think we have #2 center problem b/c i don’t trust Strome and this rebuild took a pretty big hit with neither Lias nor Chytil apparently capable of handling that role.

I think we would be in a much better place if that #2 Center position had an answer with one of our youngsters and what appears to be a flat cap.
 
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Ola said:
I am not against this, but I think a major viewpoint from Gorton’s POV is — next year, shall we be weaker or stronger than this last season?

It may sound a little theoretical. But I definitely it’s a major framework that Gorton operates within for the mental status of the organization. Are we taking a step forward or backward? Do we take what we had last season, subtract Skjei and Buch, and enter next season with a weaker team?

The big X factor here is of course that we have a young roster that should improve even in light of personnel subtractions. But I do think that Gorton will pay a lot of attention to our ability to be somewhat competitive from Day 1. If we are out of the POs for good three weeks into the season it’s not good.
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you always want to be better than the year before. but if JG changes his plans because we aren't in a playoff spot early in the year he should be fired now. that would be completely asinine.

and there are ways to measure progress besides wins and loses. if next year we are losing games but kakko and chytil emerge as top 6 players, that gets us closer to the ultimate goal than if we win a few games cause panarin and mika are red hot and no one around them has gotten better...fans can judge on wins, but for the front office it is far more detailed. how you win or lose is important.
 
I am by far not the most knowledgeable fan here but I am curious as to the weight that Gorton and JD put into these 4 abysmal games.

I get that we are in unprecedented times, but so are the other teams. We were the worst of everyone IMO. I didn’t watch every game but I saw some from every team and we just looked lost and uninspired.

Id love to hear some insight from folks like @Edge or @bobbop how they feel management views this showing as far as team construct, coaching AND individual players (not just Hank, Staal but even Kreider & Trouba)
 
Chytilmania said:
Kreider-Zib-Buch
Panarin-Strome-KK
Fast-Chytil-VK
Lemieux-Howden-Gauthier

I actually think Buch gets a lot of crap here but looking at this lineup I think it would be wise to try and move him+ for a C and then in the future slide up all the RWs. And for those who don't want to resign Fast, our 3rd and 4th lines are going to be pretty bad again.
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What has VK done to show he's earned a top-9 spot, let alone that he's ready to handle it?

And, while I'm hardly opposed to the idea of trading Buchnevich, I think the potential return for him would be fairly underwhelming.
 
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Here is where I see the Rangers needing upgrades. 2C, 4C, and 3L.

Kreider - Zibanejad - Buchnevich
Panarin - ?- Kakko
? - Chytil - Fast
Lemieux - ? - Gauthier

Di Giuseppe, McKegg, and Howden are not serious NHLers. Strome has his moments but the Rangers really need someone with more talent and consistency at 2C. Would be nice if Kravtsov could slot in at 3L but we'll see.
 
Kreider - Zibanejad - Buchnevich
Panarin -XX- Kakko
Lafreniere - Chytil - Kravtsov
Lemieux - Howden - Gauthier

XX-Trouba
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Smith-DeAngelo
Hajek


Igor
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Hank can retire and Staal can go F off. Strome traded; Fast walks
 
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There are different options to upgrading the 2C spot, just depends on how the team goes about it.

If they want an established 2C, you're gonna have to pay for it. Cirelli would be a great pickup, but even with Tampa being squeezed cap wise, they're not just giving him away. Same goes for any other guy in a similar spot.

They could trade for a guy who they think is just on the cusp, but there's problems with that as well. It would probably cost less than an established guy, but you're praying the pro scouts are correct and they've chosen correctly.

Or you wait it out and see if Chytil is that guy. No guarantees he becomes that guy, and it may take longer for him to get there, if he ever does.

Ultimately it's going to come down to Gorton and what the market presents him. Hopefully he doesn't screw it up. They've already accelerated the timeline, so he's got to figure it out quick
 
Ranger Spice said:
Kreider - Zibanejad - Buchnevich
Panarin -XX- Kakko
Lafreniere - Chytil - Kravtsov
Lemieux - Howden - Gauthier

XX-Trouba
Lindgren-Fox
Smith-DeAngelo
Hajek


Igor
Georgiev


Hank can retire and Staal can go F off. Strome traded; Fast walks
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Unless someone invents a fast sim button, I would prefer not to go into next season with a line of Chytil and two rookies.
 
Unusual Suspect said:
And I'm not entirely confident Chytil will even be in the NHL in three years' time. He's soft and doesn't seem to be close to excelling in any aspect of the game. He's young and may find himself in those three years. At present he's not even a valid third liner on any really good team.
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And I am pretty confident he ends up being a 60 point player at the very least. He is barely an adult and is already a tank. And his point total doesn't do him justice this year. Are you sure you didnt mean Howden? Cuz we have been watching a different Chytil probably.
 
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