Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLV

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All of the Canadian media has the Rangers trading for Trouba or signing Karlsson. Trouba will be very expensive to acquire from Winnipeg and very expensive to satisfy long-term assuming he doesn't want to become a free agent next July. Winnipeg will want the assets the Rangers aren't willing to trade. The Canadian media has been linking Karlsson to the Rangers since last season. McKenzie had the Rangers trading for Karlsson last summer. Crazy.
 
If Kreider is trade, does Bern go with him the way Webster went with Zucc?

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Not if Nieves is still here, unfortunately
 
All of the Canadian media has the Rangers trading for Trouba or signing Karlsson. Trouba will be very expensive to acquire from Winnipeg and very expensive to satisfy long-term assuming he doesn't want to become a free agent next July. Winnipeg will want the assets the Rangers aren't willing to trade. The Canadian media has been linking Karlsson to the Rangers since last season. McKenzie had the Rangers trading for Karlsson last summer. Crazy.

Who has the Rangers trading for Trouba?
 
All of the Canadian media has the Rangers trading for Trouba or signing Karlsson. Trouba will be very expensive to acquire from Winnipeg and very expensive to satisfy long-term assuming he doesn't want to become a free agent next July. Winnipeg will want the assets the Rangers aren't willing to trade. The Canadian media has been linking Karlsson to the Rangers since last season. McKenzie had the Rangers trading for Karlsson last summer. Crazy.

And you know one of the reasons they do this?

Because they know fans will eat it up on social media and message boards. The articles will get retweeted, shared, a higher number of views and referenced for weeks afterwards as fans debate and try to win each other over to an idea, or defend against said idea.

And in the case of the Rangers, sheer numbers dictate that any story involving them will always get a lot of attention/eyeballs, and help their bottom line.

They know exactly what keywords and names get people talking and so they can post it, and then if plans change, they can throw in another name.

So Karlsson becomes Trouba becomes Panarin becomes Hall becomes Jones
 
Alil bern-ish

I could get behind a trade Mika for the 3 or 4 OA
And Kreider/20 for the 5 (someone on rr2.0 posed it earlier today)

Your looking at kakko
Either cozens, turcotte, Zegras, dach
And byram.
Or maybe caulfield, boldy

And trading away Mika and Kreids puts them into a Prime position for a top 5 pick next year.

You could start from there with a Toronto like base, maybe even better than Toronto’s- deeper in high end skill, but the skill not being as Highest of the high end

Before I get grilled. It’s just a possibility
 
No, that gorton sees Kreider an a rental asset bc he knows he doesn’t plan on signing him

He could and that's very possible.

My gut tells me that, based on a little whispers here and there, that all things being equal the Rangers would probably prefer to move him sooner rather than later (if they're not signing him).
 
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He could and that's very possible.

My gut tells me that, based on a little whispers here and there, that all things being equal the Rangers would probably prefer to move him sooner rather than later (if they're not signing him).
We agree on that for sure
 
Alil bern-ish

I could get behind a trade Mika for the 3 or 4 OA
And Kreider/20 for the 5 (someone on rr2.0 posed it earlier today)

Your looking at kakko
Either cozens, turcotte, Zegras, dach
And byram.
Or maybe caulfield, boldy

And trading away Mika and Kreids puts them into a Prime position for a top 5 pick next year.

You could start from there with a Toronto like base, maybe even better than Toronto’s- deeper in high end skill, but the skill not being as Highest of the high end

Before I get grilled. It’s just a possibility
No keep Mika and sign Panarin and try and get Trouba. Chances are Panarin will be better than the 3rd or 4th overall pick.
 
And you know one of the reasons they do this?

Because they know fans will eat it up on social media and message boards. The articles will get retweeted, shared, a higher number of views and referenced for weeks afterwards as fans debate and try to win each other over to an idea, or defend against said idea.

And in the case of the Rangers, sheer numbers dictate that any story involving them will always get a lot of attention/eyeballs, and help their bottom line.

They know exactly what keywords and names get people talking and so they can post it, and then if plans change, they can throw in another name.

So Karlsson becomes Trouba becomes Panarin becomes Hall becomes Jones

Yo but fo' real, make that happen Jeff/John.
 
No keep Mika and sign Panarin and try and get Trouba. Chances are Panarin will be better than the 3rd or 4th overall pick.

That’s my idea.
But I’m not keen on trading for trouba when I think he’s definitely gonna be a FA next summer. Skjei works for me bc of the timing of it all. By the time the rangers are competing skjei will be up for a new deal in 2 years. And might be getting pushed by guys.

If you want to get trouba now there’s gonna be a price to be paid and for Chevy that plug and play or future assets. I don’t think he’s gonna get a much more serviceable player at an important position locked up for 4 years at market rate. Aside from the fact skjei is LD and trouba RD, for where trouba played in Winnipeg’s lineup, it’s a pretty even sWap out. While the rangers going forward need to solidify the 1RD and sometime soon
 
While it may look like Kreider gets more value for playing the whole year than being a rental, that's almost certainly not the case. In the summer, publicly, everyone is optimistic: no vet will struggle, every guy who had a career year last season will repeat it forever, every rookie will be amazing immediately. Plus, GMs are privately scared that all of those will go wrong and their contender will be struggling to make the playoffs, a la Rangers in 1995. Before shipping away their picks and prospects, GMs will want to see what they've got. A couple might be on board with acquiring a guy like Kreider, but supply-demand just isn't the same as at the TDL. There's a reason the vast majority of the time GMs wait to the TDL to trade their impending UFA - if there was more value for them in August than February, more GMs would pull the trigger.

In any event, the idea that Kreider on a one year contract gets us a top-10 pick (or even the first of any non-playoff team) is nuts. I'll make money bets that won't happen. We'll get a Hayes-like package with maybe another meh prospect like Lindgren thrown in.
 
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No keep Mika and sign Panarin and try and get Trouba. Chances are Panarin will be better than the 3rd or 4th overall pick.

There's something to be said for a guy making 8% of the money and being here about a decade longer. If you get a 3/4OA pick who plays on your second line on an ELC or even a bridge, you can still afford to sign a UFA. You get Panarin and Trouba, and you're in constant cap hell, praying to God every Spring that the cap gives you some relief, and hanging yourself in a year when that doesn't happen.
 
There's something to be said for a guy making 8% of the money and being here about a decade longer. If you get a 3/4OA pick who plays on your second line on an ELC or even a bridge, you can still afford to sign a UFA. You get Panarin and Trouba, and you're in constant cap hell, praying to God every Spring that the cap gives you some relief, and hanging yourself in a year when that doesn't happen.
I’m of the thinking 3/4/5 means the rangers get their future 1st center who will play a decade with them, starting on an ElC. That’s why I’d be willing to deal them.

I posed the question on RR2.0, what does the front office say if Chicago or Colorado calls putting their pick on the table as a starter for Mika. What do they do?

And today some posed Kreider and 20 for #5.

And I’m thinking the above
 
If they Kong’s are trying to trade for Marleau it means that they don’t know what the f*** they are doing and they think they are going to compete next season. Target their pick!

BTW Sorry for going too hard on Larry last thread. That was a rough day!
 
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If they Kong’s are trying to trade for Marleau it means that they don’t know what the **** they are doing and they think they are going to compete next season. Target their pick!

BTW Sorry for going too hard on Larry last thread. That was a rough day!
I would think they only take on Marleau if the Leafs are giving them an asset back. Perhaps Kapanen/Johnsson with Marleau.
 
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