Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLIII

[TheBloodyNine]

Assets for Kreider at 2.3M for a year then 7 years at ~7M or Jeff Skinner for 9M/8?

I’d rather trade for Kreider if I’m Buffalo. Would have to be sure about him re-signing, though.

Very fair, but I don't think that's too much of an impossibility. He can play with Eichel, Dahlin and fit in there with them.

 

[Bob Richards]

If Jimmy Vesey or Ryan Strome were on the table, Malkin would be a Ranger by now.

Malkin may outscore Jimmy Vesey's entire career in one of his usual 50 game, injury riddled seasons but Jimmy is the youngest 26 year old in NHL history so who knows if we have seen his full ceiling.

There are always tough things to consider when swapping franchise legends

 

[True Blue]

Can you imagine what our roster looks like this off-season according to the beat:

No because there is absolutely no chance of them giving point an offersheet and there is zero point zero chance of them trading for Malkin.

 

[True Blue]

Yes! I've been wanting to see Karlsson spend his retirement years on the Rangers.

It's not enough to have only watched the decline of Stevens, Naslund, Bure, Richards, Lindros, Shanahan, Gretzky, Messier part 2, Boyle, Redden, Drury, Eric Staal, Shattenkirk.

I need to see more.

For the sake of fairness, Gretzky needs to come out of that equation. He STILL put up over 90 points at that age and with that putrid team.

 

[True Blue]

Panarin is very much a possibility.

It may be a possibility, but IMO not at the level of "very much". For me, to even begin to believe that Gorton would need to 1) trade Kreider 2) be in a position to draft one of the names that we bantered about (Cozens, Dach, Zegras, Turcotte etc.). Only then do I see a path for the possibility of Panarin. I still do not believe that this is happening, but when compared to offering Point an offersheet or trading for Malkin, it is the far more realistic scenario.

 

[Off Sides]

For the sake of fairness, Gretzky needs to come out of that equation. He STILL put up over 90 points at that age and with that putrid team.

Sure, yet he was declining down from 200 point seasons.

 

[True Blue]

That seem like a lot, but I think the Rangers can still fit him in with Pananin, Malkin, Trouba, Karlsson, Point, Kreider.

But really, why stop there? Let's really put the band back together and resign Hayes and Zucc. And then get Messier to be President.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

God, how I wish for a fast forward button on this rebuild. Sick and tired of all the ridiculous proposals ... trade for Malkin lmao , sign EK, trade for Trouba, sign Breadman, sign the spaghetti monster, sign 'em all!

 

[True Blue]

Sure, yet he was declining down from 200 point seasons.

Got me on that one

 

[Off Sides]

Got me on that one

It's like I forget he put up those seasons, it seems absurd, even making that post I had to double check he actually did so.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

sign Breadman, sign the spaghetti monster, sign 'em all!

Their corsi is garbage, no thx

 

[Fitzy]

https://nypost.com/2019/05/16/evgen...-wild-card-in-rangers-artemi-panarin-pursuit/

 

[Bob Richards]

Sure, yet he was declining down from 200 point seasons.

Got me on that one

Guy declined by over 100 points from his peak years and crashed into 4th in league scoring that year.

 

[mulli25]

Karlson can make a more substantial immediate impact on the team, but Panarin would likely provide the better value over the length of his contract.

I vote neither, but if it has to be one I'd take Panarin. I see a significantly higher risk that Karlson and his contract are detrimental to the team when they're ready to win.

 

[ZiGOODejad]

Hard pass on both Malkin and Panarin

 

[bobbop]

Rutherford is a buffoon. Who knows what he’ll do. Take a look at the Jack Johnson contract and Gudbranson trade.

A buffoon with three Stanley Cups.

 

[haveandare]

Why would you trade assets for Malkin when you can sign Panarin for just money? He's younger and better today.

 

[bobbop]

Bob McKenzie said Skinner is looking for 8 years and at least $9M per from Buffalo. Jeff Skinner??? He reported that in his latest podcast.

Good luck, Jeff

 

[Bob Richards]

Why would you trade assets for Malkin when you can sign Panarin for just money? He's younger and better today.

Larrold Brooks jokes aside yeah its not something that I think makes sense for anyone.

Also Malkin has hit 70 games once since the strike year and even in that he only played 31 of 48.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Panarin is very much a possibility.

Possibility, not probability.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

CapFriendly just updated to begin with the '19-'20 season (though they still show the '19 draft picks, obviously).

New York Rangers - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Really amazing to see what a great job Gorts has done setting this team up for the future...

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Can you imagine what our roster looks like this off-season according to the beat:

Kreider Point (offersheet) Panarin (FA)
Kravtsov Malkin (Trade) Kakko
Chytil Zibanejad Buch
Fast Andersson Strome/Howden

Karlsson(FA) Fox
Skjei Shattenkirk
Staal Hajek/Pionk

Brooks said the 20th overall would not be something NYR is parting with for Malkin. So lets overpay and say 20th and Vesey/Namestnikov

Well, I'm excited.

Not that I'm advocating a trade for Malkin, but I don't see a way they get him while not giving up any of Skjei, Andersson, Chytil, Kravtsov, Buch, Kreider, Hajek or Howden in a package.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

NHL Prospects Watcher
@Prospects_Watch
Chris Johnston on FAN960 says he would be surprised to see Erik Karlsson back in San Jose, says it has been hard on his family with his wife being from Ottawa. Says the NY Rangers are the most likely destination for him, Lightning are 2nd, he’d take a discount to play with Hedman

 

[ZiGOODejad]

NHL Prospects Watcher
@Prospects_Watch
Chris Johnston on FAN960 says he would be surprised to see Erik Karlsson back in San Jose, says it has been hard on his family with his wife being from Ottawa. Says the NY Rangers are the most likely destination for him, Lightning are 2nd, he’d take a discount to play with Hedman

Good let him take a discount and play in Tampa

 

[Waivers]

Fantastic player but not interested in trading pieces for Malkin. The only hockey trade we should make should benefit us for the next several years. Unfortunately, Malkin at 32 doesn’t do that. But, I would part with pieces to get a foundational piece as worthy as Kakko. I think anyone would, anyway.