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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLIII

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Lays said:
Wasn’t he weirdly linked to the Rangers at the TDL? I think a deal around Kreider and Brodie that was speculated?
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I'm sure something was mentioned because it's Calgary and their fans and media just look at who they want and who they could stomach giving up and try and force it as a fit even though the actual insiders were saying we'd listen on Kreider but it would have to be a deal that blew Gorton away.
 
I can't help but think about our defense pretty much every day and hope that Lindgren turns into a good 2 way defenseman. I am starting to worry about all the guys we have that can shoot and get shots through but watching some clips this last season regarding defending capability in the NZ and DZ make me nervous. I feel like we don't really want to give up what it takes to bring one in via trade.

If the cap goes up and up and we sign Panarin we will be pretty dank too. I am on the fence about signing him since I do not have a clue where his priorities are though.
 
PlamsUnlimited said:
I can't help but think about our defense pretty much every day and hope that Lindgren turns into a good 2 way defenseman. I am starting to worry about all the guys we have that can shoot and get shots through but watching some clips this last season regarding defending capability in the NZ and DZ make me nervous. I feel like we don't really want to give up what it takes to bring one in via trade.

If the cap goes up and up and we sign Panarin we will be pretty dank too. I am on the fence about signing him since I do not have a clue where his priorities are though.
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I know some think I am nuts but why not see if they can move a Kreider in a package for a good defensive RD to go with Fox and ADA for the future?

why does it have to be Kreider for another 1st?
 
Elliotte Friedman on his latest podcast. Florida is the favorite for Panarin. Coach Q factor. If Florida wants both Columbus guys, they will get them. Elliotte said Point would be the guy if the Rangers decided to offer sheet a player.

The Rangers aren't giving up 4 first round picks for Point. Every year with the offer sheet speculation.
 
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RangerBoy said:
Elliotte Friedman on his latest podcast. Florida is the favorite for Panarin. Coach Q factor. If Florida wants both Columbus guys, they will get them. Elliotte said Point would be the guy if the Rangers decided to offer sheet a player.

The Rangers aren't giving up 4 first round picks for Point. Every year with the offer sheet speculation.
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It's a smokescreen to force the Callahan trade that Friedman also rampantly speculates about.
 
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Vitto79 said:
I know some think I am nuts but why not see if they can move a Kreider in a package for a good defensive RD to go with Fox and ADA for the future?

why does it have to be Kreider for another 1st?
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Because the Rangers are looking to get up near the top ten, and Kreider is the asset that can do that.
 
Trxjw said:
His name was put there around the deadline as well. Flames need to move some money out and have a lot of good young defensemen knocking on the door. They could also stand to improve their forward depth a bit.

Not sure I see the Rangers adding him to their lineup. Though I could see them taking him and flipping him to another team with more of an immediate need. Perhaps as a financial assist to a cap strapped org? He might be a good fit next to Reilly in Toronto. Could also be a good replacement if the Jets trade Trouba and can't get Myers under a new deal.
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This is where having cap space available is important.
 
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RangerBoy said:
Elliotte Friedman on his latest podcast. Florida is the favorite for Panarin. Coach Q factor. If Florida wants both Columbus guys, they will get them. Elliotte said Point would be the guy if the Rangers decided to offer sheet a player.

The Rangers aren't giving up 4 first round picks for Point. Every year with the offer sheet speculation.
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What’s the minimum amount for point that would give Tampa trouble?
 
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RangerBoy said:
Elliotte Friedman on his latest podcast. Florida is the favorite for Panarin. Coach Q factor. If Florida wants both Columbus guys, they will get them. Elliotte said Point would be the guy if the Rangers decided to offer sheet a player.

The Rangers aren't giving up 4 first round picks for Point. Every year with the offer sheet speculation.
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Can’t even begin to think about a Point offer sheet and how much that would set back this team in terms of future assets.
 
True Blue said:
Who out of Byram, Cozens, Dach, Turcotte, Zegras, Boldy do you have them ahead of? You are putting them ahead of some really good talent. Could not possibly justify taking either of them ahead of any of these names.
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3. Byram
4. Dach
5. Turcotte
9. Zegras
13. Cozens

I just think Newhook has displayed more raw skill and has more power to his game than Zegras. I also think Zegras ends up on the wing.

Seider has shown he has the size, IQ, and skill to become an all-around top pairing D. The biggest risk with him is that we haven’t had an opportunity to evaluate him against peers in standard development leagues. The attributes are all there for him to become a stud.

Honestly, the third tier of Newhook, Seider, Podkolzin, and Zegras is tight for me and I totally understand having them in any order.

The more I’ve watched Cozens, the more I see all the tools without a stable toolshed. His hockey IQ and creativity aren’t up there with some of the top prospects in this draft. He’s more a north/south player than east/west. The top players in this draft have both. His speed, his shoot first mentality, and his consistency are all major pluses. I just don’t have the same confidence he has a playing style that will allow him to dominate at the next level. He reminds me of Nolan Patrick.
 
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DanielBrassard said:
What makes him a stud? His on ice impacts are horrific.
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I guess I haven't done the legwork on this one, but watching him in the playoffs was very impressive.

Look at Dallas' PK TOI during the playoffs for defensemen:
Lindell: 4:30
Lovejoy: 3:18
Polak: 1:48
Heiskanen: 0:38

I've never seen anything like that. He played more than 7 times as much as the next LD.

He's also an elite diver.
 
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QJL said:
3. Byram
4. Dach
5. Turcotte
9. Zegras
13. Cozens

I just think Newhook has displayed more raw skill and has more power to his game than Zegras. I also think Zegras ends up on the wing.

Seider has shown he has the size, IQ, and skill to become an all-around top pairing D. The biggest risk with him is that we haven’t had an opportunity to evaluate him against peers in standard development leagues. The attributes are all there for him to become a stud.

Honestly, the third tier of Newhook, Seider, Podkolzin, and Zegras is tight for me and I totally understand having them in any order.

The more I’ve watched Cozens, the more I see all the tools without a stable toolshed. His hockey IQ and creativity aren’t up there with some of the top prospects in this draft. He’s more a north/south player than east/west. The top players in this draft have both. His speed, his shoot first mentality, and his consistency are all major pluses. I just don’t have the same confidence he has a playing style that will allow him to dominate at the next level. He reminds me of Nolan Patrick.
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Dach at 4 just makes me shake my head.
 
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Lion Hound said:
Dach at 4 just makes me shake my head.
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The only things that will stop Dach from becoming a 1C are his own drive and his skating. He’s got it all. His skating his decent, not a detriment, but not a differentiator right now.

I’d be very surprised if he made it past 6 in the draft.
 
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