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Rafalski signed a 5 year 30 million dollar contract in 2007. That's a significant contract NOW, much more then, and he wasn't a top UFA? What are you talking about?
Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLI
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Rafalski signed a 5 year 30 million dollar contract in 2007. That's a significant contract NOW, much more then, and he wasn't a top UFA? What are you talking about?
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Kevin Hayes would be a nice addition. He would provide stability to the top 6 with all of the kids and would cost 2/3 or maybe less than panarin or duchene would leverage.
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And most suspect he could have gotten more if he would have been more open to teams outside of Detroit and New Jersey.
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I always thought that if Kevin Hayes got on a good team he would get more points, but it appears after watching him with Winnipeg and getting the opportunity on their 2nd line that he is what he was with us, a 50 point guy. I'm over him and I hope they do not resign him here. I think it's time to move on from the past.
Point is that big signing didnt hinder them. Panarin's contract will not be the determining factor in whether or not his team is a contender in 7 years.
Absolutely. And I do not believe that is the direction this franchise is heading. Why stop at Kreider? Trade everyone. Zibanejad, Buchnevich, Vesey, Skjei, etc.
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No, just stop at Kreider. Nobody is saying to blow the team up. We will still have more than enough veteran presence. Kreider is going to be a UFA in 2020. I won't lose any sleep if we trade Mr Inconsistent away for another 1st round pick/prospect. Top offensive players usually come into their own fairly quickly( KK and Kravtsov)
Thats going to be very difficult.
Those close games can also go the other way. They were severely outplayed in most of their wins this year.
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They lost those games at a high rate. There's not much room for a downturn.
They also accumulated a ton of loser points they shouldn't have gotten.
I could see them being better, but that would require a pretty big step forward from several players.
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What if Panarin isn’t the only move Gorton makes this offseason? It seems the argument is either sign Panarin and trade Kreider or don’t sign Panarin and trade Kreider. Why couldn’t Gorton also continue to make additions to push the team up in the standings and give the young players valuable competitive hockey to play all season?
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Rumor has it that Winnipeg wants to re-sign Myers and Myers likes Winnipeg. That would lend itself towards them dealing Trouba.
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Why do we want to be better this coming season? Everything points to 21 with the drafts and the progression (hopefully) of the kids and the jettisoning of Staal, Smith, Kirk and Hank’s contracts. I hope that Gorton wants another high pick next draft and then once we know where we r lacking, then he goes big game hunting.
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I mean the idea that it’s just a switch to flip to start competing over one offseason probably is a bit far fetched. It’s taken how long to dismantle the team? It could take just as long to start accruing the right pieces to build it properly
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We shouldve made the condition on the Dallas pick win at least three games of the second round. I think St. Louis advances.
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Jesus Christ, signing Hayes but not signing Panarin, why waste dollars? If you feel like you can benefit from Hayes, you can definitely benefit from Panarin. Go get an impact forward instead of spending money on a stop gap. Hayes is going to get paid either way. All dollars should go towards the best player available, Hayes is not that, wouldn’t pay that guy anything for term. Don’t want to pay Panarin either? That’s also fine. Don’t sit here and say Hayes is the best alternative route.
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Have to agree here. I’m obv not on the sign Panarin bandwagon but I’d rather that than Hayes for sure.
…and by that I mean sign a one-year (at an inflated amount for it to also make sense for him) with the understood intent of getting traded again at TDL (with retained salary for it to make sense to a third team). wash/rinse/repeat. Thats the only way it'd make sense for us.
I would rather the Rangers get absolutely mopped the entire season with Strome as 2C than pay out of pocket for a guy like Hayes.
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This is completely unrealistic. The only reason Dallas would be willing to bump it to a 1st is their pick moves to 27th overall if they get to the WCF. Winning three games does nothing for them as a franchise, nothing to add more playoff revenue or build fan hype, all of which would make it worth while to lose a first round pick.
i thought the team was dismantled about as quickly as you could without using C4 lol
that said I agree with you that its not just a switch you flip and thats why despite all the complaining and joking about loser points, in the long run it will be huge that the team has never tanked and that quinn won't let them. they lost because of lack of talent not cause the effort wasn't there and i think they've worked to instill many of those positives despite the losing...
and I think that is the key here. you can make progress toward that goal regardless of the win loss record. when we finally are good again it will hopefully be powered by all of the young assets we've brought in to rebuild the team. we'll be ready to be truly competitive when the guys like kakko, kravtsov, chytil, howden, anderson, hajek, fox, deangelo etc have grown into their roles. and the fastest way for them to grow into those roles is for them to play and get that experience. downside is that that comes with growing pains and in the short term likely means some losing. but I think we get to the ultimate goal sooner by letting those kids go thru those growing pains then by sheltering them while random vets help make us better in the short term
I got completely reamed out on another board because I didn't pick up on a post being sarcastic so I'll politely say the original poster wasn't serious that Dallas would do that.
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