Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XL

[Anthony5967]

10m for 7 years. Force Tampa to make a move. And the compensation is reasonable (1st, 2nd and 3rd)

Would be all over that. In the end, I'd expect them to probably match.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Would be all over that. In the end, I'd expect them to probably match.

Which is fine. It just forces Tampa to match and commit to 10m for 7 years. Assuming Point accepts the offer sheet of course

 

[Anthony5967]

Which is fine. It just forces Tampa to match and commit to 10m for 7 years. Assuming Point accepts the offer sheet of course

That's why I love the idea so much. What is the cutoff before it becomes FOUR first-round picks?

 

[RangerBoy]

With Kakko (and probably) Kravtsov coming next year, I don’t see any place for Vesey in the lineup. Vesey is not an effective fourth line player. He’s entering his walk year. Very logical trade candidate. Most likely he brings back a high third or a low second.

Fast and Namestnikov are useful players who can play up and down the lineup. Both are good penalty killers. Fast is economical, Namestnikov is not (unless he is moved with salary retained) both are very good locker room guys. I expect the Rangers would like to retain Fast longer term at or near his current price. Unless something changes dramatically Namestnikov will not make $4.1 MM on his next contract. He’s probably a good deadline trade bait when half of his remaining salary can be retained.

Kravstov’s KHL contract expires tomorrow. The Rangers could announce the Kravstov and Shestyorkin contracts on Wednesday.

 

[Bluenote13]

10m for 7 years. Force Tampa to make a move. And the compensation is reasonable (1st, 2nd and 3rd)

But if we hold on to our picks, we'll most likely be able to draft a player like Point. Especially with next years #1.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

That's why I love the idea so much. What is the cutoff before it becomes FOUR first-round picks?

$10,148,303

 

[Shesterkybomb]

$10,148,303

They are projecting it closer to 10.5 for next year I believe.

 

[Gardner McKay]

You'd rather hold on to those picks, understandable. Personally, if they draft Kakko, offer-sheet Point, this team will be filled to the brim with ELITE, high-end talent.

While I get this, we aren't in a position to be giving up next years 1st. I'll take Panarin over Point 10/10. There is a 4 year difference between them and one will cost a ridiculous amount of assets and money. The other will just cost money.

 

[I Eat Crow]

Anybody else on board with a Point offer sheet?

No. This team should send out zero offersheets until the team is contending again.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

If I had to choose between signing Panarian and offer sheeting point I'm taking Panarian. The risk is just far too big on the offer sheet

 

[Mac n Gs]

If we’re offersheeting anyone, the only targets should be Johnsson or Kapanen. Toronto is cap restricted and you can pressure them by using an OS that will cost only a second rounder as compensation (~4M).

It’s an easy solution to add a much more impactful LW than Jimmy Vesey at a minimal increase in cap hit.

That being said, I think we’d see Gorton just try to acquire one of those two rather than pursue the offer sheet route.

 

[bobbop]

You know me. I say this not in a smart ass way towards you or demeaning way towards Pittsburgh, but rather as a genuine question.

Realistically, does Pittsburgh even have enough to offer for Kreider? Factoring in of course I assume he would be a bit more expensive being traded within the division.

I’d take Calen Addison and their first

 

[Waivers]

With Kakko (and probably) Kravtsov coming next year, I don’t see any place for Vesey in the lineup. Vesey is not an effective fourth line player. He’s entering his walk year. Very logical trade candidate. Most likely he brings back a high third or a low second.

Fast and Namestnikov are useful players who can play up and down the lineup. Both are good penalty killers. Fast is economical, Namestnikov is not (unless he is moved with salary retained) both are very good locker room guys. I expect the Rangers would like to retain Fast longer term at or near his current price. Unless something changes dramatically Namestnikov will not make $4.1 MM on his next contract. He’s probably a good deadline trade bait when half of his remaining salary can be retained.

Weren’t there talks (rumored?) of the Rangers trying to flip Namestnikov last minute but couldn’t pull off the deal in a timely fashion? I think he’s a dead man walking along with Vesey.

 

[DanielBrassard]

10m for 7 years. Force Tampa to make a move. And the compensation is reasonable (1st, 2nd and 3rd)

The compensation would be 4 1sts since the total value of the contract would be divided by 5 years.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Putting out an offer sheet where you would lose multiple firsts in the middle of the rebuild would rank as one of the dumbest things you can do.

 

[bobbop]

Weren’t there talks (rumored?) of the Rangers trying to flip Namestnikov last minute but couldn’t pull off the deal in a timely fashion? I think he’s a dead man walking along with Vesey.

Even at 50% retained, Namestnikov is a $2MM player if he is traded now. More logical at the deadline. Of course, if someone thinks that he really is a 20-25 goal player, perhaps they will bite now.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

The compensation would be 4 1sts since the total value of the contract would be divided by 5 years.

4 firsts is only if it's more than 10.1m

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Point has had 2 really good seasons so far...playing with Stamkos, Kucherov and Hedman. He ain't getting that here.

 

[DanielBrassard]

4 firsts is only if it's more than 10.1m

If you give him 7/70 the 70 million is divided by 5 years to determine compensation. It would be considered 14m AAV for that purpose which would obviously be higher than 10.1M and would cost 4 1sts.

 

[True Blue]

Anybody else on board with a Point offer sheet?

Not even a little bit.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

If you give him 7/70 the 70 million is divided by 5 years to determine compensation. It would be considered 14m AAV for that purpose which would obviously be higher than 10.1M and would cost 4 1sts.

Ah, I forgot about that. Well, make sure it's below 10.1m haha

 

[True Blue]

Putting out an offer sheet where you would lose multiple firsts in the middle of the rebuild would rank as one of the dumbest things you can do.

Times 2. The rebuild is 1.25 years old. Now we want to give away multiple first rounders?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Times 2. The rebuild is 1.25 years old. Now we want to give away multiple first rounders?

No, we don't. We just want to force Tampa/Toronto to make a move and commit to a big extension for Point/Marner.

Not that this ever happens though. Offer sheets are as rare as 3-way trades

 

[EpicDing]

You are talking about marginal prospects.

Why is he going to Hartford?

And again, the concern is how much dead cap space he would take up 3 & 4 years from now than next year.

Give those marginal prospects a shot so they have a chance to become more than that.

I was responding to someone else about Hartford.

 

[Gardner McKay]

I’d take Calen Addison and their first

I forgot about Addison. Okay. I'd be happy with that.