Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV

[offdacrossbar]

Z should not be moved. hes got a deal and a good one.

hayes should be. he wants too much money. let someone else pay him. hell be in demand and bring back value.

andersson should play C with howden and thats your future 3/4 right there short term anyway.

chytl ends up on the edge. thats where hell play in future

the tank seems to have been temporarily derailed. if we move zucc and hayes and perhaps 22, the tank will continue.

this team is showing it can play some.

HOWEVER, lets not get ahead of our selves yet. hanks playing insane and the habs were dead tired last game. we were rested.

tank on !

 

[Machinehead]

Because Girardi is infinitely more handsome than Zibanejad.

Obviously you keep him on the team as long as you can.

Girardi has a more chiseled look but Zibanejad is adorable.

 

[Mac n Gs]

f*** me up fam with the Chytil-Andersson combo. McLeod getting sat for Jesper makes that a pretty solid lineup. I like the overall template once Zucc returns.

 

[Off Sides]

Yeah but he has an NMC kicking in soon so he has to go

You are likely kidding but I do think the Rangers will take that into consideration. Along with how he plays out this season, with what the return would be.

I don't know, hypothetically if they could get back a better than the Stepan return, and Zbad has a regression from how he is currently playing? If Howden, Lias, Chytil are showing more as time goes on...

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

Cody McLeod:

doesn't hit
sucks at fights
doesn't score
doesn't get any points whatsoever
Doesn't enforce anything

 

[Irishguy42]

I would assume Lettieri sits once Zucc comes back in. But then we'd still have 14 forwards, so something's gotta give.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

**** me up fam with the Chytil-Andersson combo. McLeod getting sat for Jesper makes that a pretty solid lineup. I like the overall template once Zucc returns.

When all healthy a 4th line of Andersson, Chytil and Namestnikov/Spooner/Fast would be fun

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

I would assume Lettieri sits once Zucc comes back in. But then we'd still have 14 forwards, so something's gotta give.

He’ll probably be sent down rather than sits

 

[Kovalev27]

What are the lines? I don’t follow cyrgalis

 

[Mac n Gs]

What are the lines? I don’t follow cyrgalis

Names-Mika-Buch
Kreids-Hayes-Spooner
Vesey-Howden-Fast (McLeod skated here since JF had a maintenance day)
Chytil-Lias-Vinni

 

[Kovalev27]

Names-Mika-Buch
Kreids-Hayes-Spooner
Vesey-Howden-Fast (McLeod skated here since JF had a maintenance day)
Chytil-Lias-Vinni

Thank you

 

[Kovalev27]

I still would leave Chytil at center ice. I just think that’s where he belongs. He’s got everything you want in a center.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

I think the Rangers would've been happy to sign him for 3 or 4 years, but he was 5+ or bust.

The Rangers once handed Lundqvist a one-year deal to sign. His next contract was his current one.

Hank's one year deal was in 2007-08. After that was up he signed a 6 year deal and when that was in the last year he signed his current deal.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

**** me up fam with the Chytil-Andersson combo. McLeod getting sat for Jesper makes that a pretty solid lineup. I like the overall template once Zucc returns.

Hopefully they play them more then 8 minuets a game

 

[Tawnos]

Hank's one year deal was in 2007-08. After that was up he signed a 6 year deal and when that was in the last year he signed his current deal.

This is accurate. Had the timeline messed up, but my point is still the same.

 

[bobbop]

Hayes is a third line center on a good team. We already have younger and cheaper options (with great growth potential) on hand to fill that job. Do you really think we can win a Stanley Cup with Hayes as a second line center?

The problem I see is that a team trading for him today is they are going to want to extend him. It takes two to dance. Once that conversation starts, it doesn’t stop. Everyone will know whether he will or wont sign an extension with another team and the Rangers will have to manage accordingly.

If someone else wants Hayes and is willing to make the investment, the deal happens sooner than later. If not, he’s a playoff rental.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

I still dont get why we cant move some of our centers to the wing and keep Hayes

 

[DutchShamrock]

Hayes may be playing well and he may have improved. But he is the easiest center to replace. His height is less of an asset in the current league and it's not like he uses it to his advantage. It's just a number on his pedigree. Time to cash in the free asset and make room for the centers coming in.

 

[Tawnos]

I still dont get why we cant move some of our centers to the wing and keep Hayes

Because all three of them are potentially better centers than Hayes.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Because all three of them are potentially better centers than Hayes.

So move Hayes to the wing?

 

[East Coast Bias]

Should be running a black friday special - buy hayes, get mcquaid free

 

[Mikos87]

I still would leave Chytil at center ice. I just think that’s where he belongs. He’s got everything you want in a center.

Except the 20 something percent win rate on draws.

 

[Tawnos]

So move Hayes to the wing?

I'd like to see him at wing under a new coach, but historically he's underperformed there.

Here is the issue with signing him long-term: there's huge risk at the end of the deal, which would hopefully be smack in the middle of our window. Think about Ryan Callahan and how much the Lightning don't want his contract now, but were happy with it early on. Any time you're talking about a player over 30, there's risk regardless of who it is. For a player who is 2/3 tweener, that risk isn't worth it (as opposed to an elite player, like Panarin). If we do trade him, we would be getting assets back that would potentially be at the same level, or higher, than Hayes and would be on their ELCs or 2nd contracts 4-6 years from now.

Hayes just isn't a good enough player for me to want to keep him long-term at this point in time.

 

[Tawnos]

Except the 20 something percent win rate on draws.

The primary thing that improves faceoff ability is experience.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Zibanejad is 25 and on a great contract. He should be going precisely nowhere.

This is funny in light of re-reading the Brass/Mika trade thread.