Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV (To trade or not to trade is the question)

[Barnaby]

Thats a hot take about Drury's deadline deals.
There are a lot of very valid criticisms about Drury as GM. That would be the lowest on my list.

Copp+Vatrano+Motte for A very high conditional 1st and change, was a great pickup. It gave our team depth, and they all put up big plays in the playoffs.
Tarasenko and Mikkola were another great move, and, we still had a first round pick that year. (please note, I ignore the kane move which I hated at the time, and hate even more now, as something Dolan pushed on him not a move drury wanted to make)
Roslovic and Wennberg were solid depth moves, and were good pickups without sacrificing a first.

Making splashes while still keeping 2/3 first round picks, AND going to the ECF 2x in 3 years with the pickups all contributing in the playoffs.

Drury is interesting.

Drury has made some savvy moves.

Drury has made some blunders.

Assuming he sticks around, I don’t know what to expect. I feel like it’s a coin flip whether he rights the ship or sinks it.

 

[Barnaby]

Drury has a chance to do something REALLY funny, which is trade Fox and Igor before their NMCs kick in.

Who's with me.

Two months ago id say you’re nuts.

Today id roll with it.

 

[Savant]

The players are obviously trying to get Drury and Laviolette fired.

At this point you have to fire Drury. Not just because the team won’t play for him, but because if he’s a lame duck, you don’t want him making deals for the next GM. It’s a very bad situation

 

[eco's bones]

fact Kreider is on the short list for my favorite player on current team, honestly, is moot
This is personal w/zib for me
He has to be made to totally capitulate by waiving
which can only happen now by him not playing



too many retorts, must pass for now..



respectful disagree
it is more on the players
the most genius braintrust can't help if we don't have the horses

May be all of those things but not equally
Players w/few exceptions need to go
THEN we look at the staff and figure out what staff is best w/what we have/where we intend to go



we do

Chris has always been a favorite player of mine too but he's put up 1 goal and 1 assist in the last 13 games. That you can't contemplate moving him is absurd. He's given us great value for his contract up until this year but he hasn't made a positive impact on the ice pretty much in the last month. He wears an A and is a veteran so responsibility should fall on his shoulders. It's very questionable also that if the Rangers moved Zibanejad it will improve Kreider's play. These two attached to each other both as line mates and on a psychological emotional level for the last several years. He's absolutely tradable playing as he has and if he still is around at the deadline and the Rangers aren't in real position to go into the playoffs like it's looking it would be a dereliction of duty for our GM not to move him.

You'd move everyone else pretty much on the team.....fire the coach and GM to save his ass and it's kind of f***ed up and it makes it impossible to take seriously whatever other trades you would make. Kreider absolutely has been part of the problem and moving him would for sure signal we're changing the culture of the team.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Drury has a chance to do something REALLY funny, which is trade Fox and Igor before their NMCs kick in.

Who's with me.

I’m going to say yes but only because I’m caught up in the moment with Fox.
On one hand he has been a top 5 d-man in the league.
The other side of the coin is he hasn’t been the same player since those two knee injuries last season and he doesn’t seem to be the best role model as far as conditioning for young players the would inevitably be coming back in trades to purge this team.
Igor 100 %. Can’t have an 11.5 million dollar player that only appears in 55 regular season games.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

January 1 Lineup

Lafreniere-Chytil-Cuylle
Panarin-Trocheck-Berard
Edstrom-Carrick-Othmann
Kreider-Mika-Rempe

Miller-Fox
Vaakanainen-Schneider
Jones-Clifton



Why not?

March 8th lineup:

Lafreniere-Chytil-Cuylle
Panarin-Groulx*-Othmann
Berard-Trocheck-Belzile
Edstrom-Rempe-Zibanejad
Brodzinski

Vaakanainen*-Schneider
Jones-Ruhwedel *
Harpur-Fitzgerald *

* place holder for incoming players received from trading:
Kreider
Smith
Vesey
Carrick
Fox
Miller
Lindgren
Shesterkin

**if there is an overwhelming offer for Quick and he’s willing to go trade him as well.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

All boils down to canning Drury and letting a new gm decide the direction of this franchise