At 1st overall you should expect a superstar. Doesn’t always happen (obviously).
And Hischier has never had a PPG season in his career.
No. Hes a tier behind Celebrini
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And Hischier has never had a PPG season in his career.
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I think Drury’s plan revolved around trading Trouba, and when Trouba blocked it everything changed. Might answer while he’s a little bitter and why everyone’s got their panties in a twist. He couldn’t make the moves he felt needed to be made. Team probably flabbergasted that major changes were being made despite their accomplishments last year.
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You really want to give Kakko 4 million AAV? He seems like the type of player you could replace with Berard or Othmann on the cheap. Going to need money to rebuild the defense and pay Igor.
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We already have them as cheap options if needed.
Kakko is easily moved with 4M AAV. Short term obviously. Don’t see him getting a long deal. Don’t get me wrong, I have no problem moving him if it makes sense
Everything hinges on dumping Mika.
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Entitlement is always a problem around this org, AND then they came into training camp with the roster basically already finalized except for a 4th line spot. why are people surprised by this mess...
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Serious decline. Five years left after this one. I’ve seen some unexpected trades in the past, but that’s a tough one. Money doesn’t drop until the last couple years. That doesn’t even count the NMC that drops to a 21 team no trade list in 29-30.
Not sure there’s going to be many options here…
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The rotten culture predated wayyyy before Drury. We’re talking about lack of accountability and that started with AV. They said Quinn was going to be accountable and he was the biggest fraud there was. There hasn’t been a coach to preach accountability since Torts. Regardless of his strategy was viable long term or not.
My only gripe with Drury that’s realistic is that Trouba should have been moved as soon as that became public.
Otherwise, the rotten culture started way before him. The placating to the vets and the division between old and young players. At the end of the day, it’s not based on merit and players smell that from a mile away
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To me this season was doomed before it even started.
We all knew this core was good enough to compete but not great enough the win it all.
When they ran it back I felt the players knew that too and once they faced a mid season challenge they threw up their hands and gave up early.
I wouldn’t fire the coach right now. It should happen but only after some players are moved. Sell at the deadline. They’ll be more value coming back then.
There’s little reason to try and inspire this core with yet another new coaching staff this season, it’s wasted motivation.
Let it play out, make some changes, collect some draft capital, reassess & retool in the summer and find a new coach and staff coming in fresh from training camp onward.
You could can Lavy and make one of the assistants the interim until the end of the year - that’s another route but I kinda want to see this whole group go down to the ocean floor together.
Oh, and instruct Lav that you are pulling the strings with some lineup decisions and bench Mika/pull him from PP1.
We all knew this core was good enough to compete but not great enough the win it all.
When they ran it back I felt the players knew that too and once they faced a mid season challenge they threw up their hands and gave up early.
I wouldn’t fire the coach right now. It should happen but only after some players are moved. Sell at the deadline. They’ll be more value coming back then.
There’s little reason to try and inspire this core with yet another new coaching staff this season, it’s wasted motivation.
Let it play out, make some changes, collect some draft capital, reassess & retool in the summer and find a new coach and staff coming in fresh from training camp onward.
You could can Lavy and make one of the assistants the interim until the end of the year - that’s another route but I kinda want to see this whole group go down to the ocean floor together.
Oh, and instruct Lav that you are pulling the strings with some lineup decisions and bench Mika/pull him from PP1.
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i think the narrative that "this is the 3rd coach the players tuned out" is somewhat incorrect. Quinn was an awful coach, they were probably right to tune him out. Gallant was fired because of a disagreement with Drury. Drury gave him an ill equipped roster so he could make a PR splash by trading for an injured Patrick Kane. the team lost to the Devils because they weren't good enough to beat them. the fact that they got that series to 7 games to me showed they had more heart and grit than skill. Laviolette has long been a buffoon of a coach, especially since he lost that awesome Flyers team midseason back in the early 10's. the roster still isn't good enough but that is 100% Drury's fault. he has been a shitstain on this organization.
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if the players have tuned out the coaching staff then how is it that two weeks ago they switched to using a 1-2-2 instead of a 1-3-1 and the players executed it at such a level that the reporters even noticed the change in play style and asked the coach about it?
I think the main reason Laviolette hasn't been fired yet is that it would reflect very poorly on Drury to cycle through 3 coaches in 4 seasons, not because 'it wouldn't fix anything.' That's never been a reason for GMs not to fire a coach.
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Fire the gm...new guy brings his coaches is the only way. Imo the coach hasnt been fired because of this, Dolan likely told Drury ill give you til lets say christmas and if things havent shifted you're gone and the next gm picks the new coaches. Then move kreider, lindgren and if you can Mika. Target speed and forechecking up front and defensive ability down back.
A lot of the reason Laviolette has lost teams is that he preaches a strict 1-3-1 and players don’t like playing that style. It’s kneecapped many coaches. You get one good season and then things go south.
Don’t help that he’s a hardass either.
Don’t help that he’s a hardass either.
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Yea this doesn't make sense. So his 1-3-1 style works so well the first season that the players then revolt in the second season despite seeing the success that system brought? I don't think so.
#NYRTANKFORHAGENS HE ALREADY HAS CHEMISTRY WITH PERREAULT AND IS A CENTER
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I think your capslock key is broken buddy
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There’s a reason we’ve won 1 cup in 85 years lol
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I mean we've been run/owned by a few people, so more thn 1 consecutive reason
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Kakko is one of the (very) few players on the roster doing his job. Scratching him is laughable. I guess I'm not really surprised at this point. Rangers are the most embarrassing team in NY this year, and that's a genuine accomplishment considering the Jets, Giants, and Sabres exist.
Again, I will mention just because Lindgren got his pocket picked and Kyrou walked in all alone for a goal....
Drury really flubbed not dealing for Chychrun. I was interested years ago but he kept getting hurt and my interest dropped further and further. I figured the ask on him was going to be way too much given his durability issues. The fact that he was traded for a 3rd round pick years away and a veteran depth defender... and we instead ran it back with Lindgren, who is just as often injured... serious, serious miss there. This D core would be vastly better with that guy in the mix. What a shame.
Drury really flubbed not dealing for Chychrun. I was interested years ago but he kept getting hurt and my interest dropped further and further. I figured the ask on him was going to be way too much given his durability issues. The fact that he was traded for a 3rd round pick years away and a veteran depth defender... and we instead ran it back with Lindgren, who is just as often injured... serious, serious miss there. This D core would be vastly better with that guy in the mix. What a shame.
Ottawa wanted a RD so who exactly was going the other way with Trouba blocking trades
You’d think but everything a disaster right now so we will see
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